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w33wawa
post Apr 7 2013, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 7 2013, 06:45 PM)
If RM570 include full belting (accessories belt) + tensioner + labor, then it's cheap. Osman BaBa is very reliable magician according to many input from our forumer despite I haven't send my car to him before. Price wise, Osman also honest. So, you may wanna look for fixgd to shed you some light. I for 1, will definitely go back renautech since I'm so used to send there.
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Got any other choice other than gaido?
which 1 is the best among all other timing belt brands?
Afaik, timing belt change interval is 60km?
gua buy secondhand car ex-owner duno throw the booklet where...so i read here read there collect info...
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post Apr 7 2013, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(w33wawa @ Apr 7 2013, 06:53 PM)
Got any other choice other than gaido?
which 1 is the best among all other timing belt brands?
Afaik, timing belt change interval is 60km?
gua buy secondhand car ex-owner duno throw the booklet where...so i read here read there collect info...
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i think max for timing belt is 100k (if u have to balls la). haha about brands i dunno lor. i think gaido is ok since recommended by pomen.

renautech use renault's i think. price he quote me forgot la around 700 i think.
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post Apr 7 2013, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(w33wawa @ Apr 7 2013, 06:53 PM)
Got any other choice other than gaido?
which 1 is the best among all other timing belt brands?
Afaik, timing belt change interval is 60km?
gua buy secondhand car ex-owner duno throw the booklet where...so i read here read there collect info...
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fixgd is right. Renautech offer 2 types of timing belt. Renault original would cost more, but recommended mileage is only 60k. However, Plotong original slightly cheaper than Renault belt, & recommended mileage is 80k. Before Shawie, my 3 times belt change on Iswaga 4G13, Ganjil 660, Wigra 4G92 also uses Gaido. Range between 180~220 for 3 different vehicles, all include labor. Ayam a happy customer of Gaido so far. However, my concern is Shawie uses French engine, and it's not easily accessible source for OEM factory to fabricate replacement product. Even if they do have their credibility, but worries of snap belt that causes damage to the engine, on a Mitsi/Diehardsu engine I can easily find replacement/engine swap for very low price, but not in the case of Shawie.
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:26 PM

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interested to get a savvy (not really expensive i can get here)

may i ask you guys as experienced owner here about savvy's

1 - spare parts availability? all car will broke down one day no matter how good it is after all
2 - FC?
3 - heard got prob with AMT so planning to get M only, any comment appreciated

mostly just will be city driving car, go and back from office which is about 10km, maybe sometimes go back hometown which is arent far either

inb4 go get kancil/kelisa/kenari cause they expensive for a 2nd car
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:28 PM

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pallmall

Shawie is a good 2nd car if your budget is tight. However, maintenance not as friendly as we thought. Parts is slightly expansive on ENGINE and GEARBOX. You are right, AMT is even more troublesome. Manual for the win.

A good example our latest member w33wawa bought a Shawie 2009 for 16k, I personally drove the car out for a spin, the car is like new condition. His first service involved TDC sensor cleaning + wiring modification to prevent hard to crank start issue. Eventually this will happen to ALL Shawies be it manual or AMT. Engine oil change with full synthetic as well as synthetic gear oil. He's done many servicing & checking since its "NEW" from previous owner. Total damaged is 500+. Which is very worthwhile in my opinion.

Other than that, Shawie's timing belt is slightly expansive than other cars. Regular maintenance is as regular priced as any other cars. Some of Shawie weaknesses should address, for example weak steering rack & weak rear bearing, as well as weak rear drum brakes, tend to jam very often. Just take note when u feel the car draggy. Be sure to check if the brake cylinder is jammed. Always parked and adjust steering wheel to straight line to avoid power steering censor koyak, and also park with straighten steering wheel can reduced the stress to 1 side of your steering rack. Steering rack stopper was not proper designed, should avoid steering full turn. Usually people do full u-turn/parrellel parking tend to spin steering wheel very fast until hit the stopper create sound of "TOK!". This will stress the steering tie rod shaft and 1 fine day when the oil seal decided to give way, you'll be filling power steering fluid every other day.

1 last prevention u should take note, the torsion beam is an iron bar that link both your left & right wheels. Do not let anyone put a jack there to lift up your car. If u bent it, its gonna cost a bomb. Do take note, these are NOT only Shawie's weakness, it happened to many other vehicle as well. Just because its a freaking Plotong, people tend to bash a lot. Whilst I was fixing my bent torsion beam last time, an Altis drove in with a kang-kang rear wheels, but the Altis was less lucky had to replace a new beam for RM2200.

For servicing, please search for NOX our forumer's post. He got posted before on Renautech, Osman Baba & RS Auto contact number. They're all our beloved Shawie experts in KL Selangor area. Should you require further information, feel free to drop by our ever so loving little Shawie community. Love the Frenchie engine, adore the toilet bowl design. Live long & prosper Savvy! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 07:08 PM

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Hi everyone! Fellow "Shawie" (hehe been reading posts here) owner!

09' MT. I love this car more than anything in my world atm. wub.gif

I haven't had any problems so far (50k KM so far only) besides the issue with starting the engine. I've only noticed it when its a "cold" start. Warm starts always work for me somehow.
Also when I drop the clutch, sometimes I hear a like a knock on the right side of the car and a little feedback from the steering about it. The same knock I hear when taking a fast sharp turn but I can't be sure which wheel its coming from. That and the AC takes one big performance hit on the engine... lol.

I'm not a crankhead per se but I'd surely like to take her for a good service. 55k being the next "scheduled" Proton SC stop.
FC has been a little on the high side lately though.

That said, from davidke20's post I see Renautech, Osman Baba + RS Auto. I live in Shah Alam Sek 7 area.
I can get to Renautech that's fine. Just looking for a little help smile.gif

Thanks everyone! I might drop by for the TT sometime too!

My sis has a 07' AMT over 100k KM now and we ran into major issues with the gearbox stalling, car not starting etc etc. Dad is threatening with selling it off and getting a Myvi for her mad.gif she loves the Savvy more than anything too. I might take that down for a good shakeup too. Hopefully they don't hit my wallet that hard....
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post Apr 8 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboyj @ Apr 8 2013, 07:08 PM)
Hi everyone! Fellow "Shawie" (hehe been reading posts here) owner!

09' MT. I love this car more than anything in my world atm.  wub.gif

I haven't had any problems so far (50k KM so far only) besides the issue with starting the engine. I've only noticed it when its a "cold" start. Warm starts always work for me somehow.
Also when I drop the clutch, sometimes I hear a like a knock on the right side of the car and a little feedback from the steering about it. The same knock I hear when taking a fast sharp turn but I can't be sure which wheel its coming from. That and the AC takes one big performance hit on the engine... lol.

I'm not a crankhead per se but I'd surely like to take her for a good service. 55k being the next "scheduled" Proton SC stop.
FC has been a little on the high side lately though.

That said, from davidke20's post I see Renautech, Osman Baba + RS Auto. I live in Shah Alam Sek 7 area.
I can get to Renautech that's fine. Just looking for a little help smile.gif

Thanks everyone! I might drop by for the TT sometime too!

My sis has a 07' AMT over 100k KM now and we ran into major issues with the gearbox stalling, car not starting etc etc. Dad is threatening with selling it off and getting a Myvi for her  mad.gif she loves the Savvy more than anything too. I might take that down for a good shakeup too. Hopefully they don't hit my wallet that hard....
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if ur sister used to drive a savvy, its not a good idea to get a myvi. she'll most prob end up turtling the myvi.
w33wawa
post Apr 8 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(pallmall @ Apr 8 2013, 03:26 PM)
interested to get a savvy (not really expensive i can get here)

may i ask you guys as experienced owner here about savvy's

1 - spare parts availability? all car will broke down one day no matter how good it is after all
2 - FC?
3 - heard got prob with AMT so planning to get M only, any comment appreciated

mostly just will be city driving car, go and back from office which is about 10km, maybe sometimes go back hometown which is arent far either

inb4 go get kancil/kelisa/kenari cause they expensive for a 2nd car
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Ans for ur ques
1. Spare parts is more expensive compare to other proton of coz...coz less ppl use,lower demand
2.fc is very nice...can last me a week to and fro puchong to cyber weekdays,travel around pj jalan jalan during weekends,
around rm30 run for 230km+..
3. i see so many post comp1ain amt,got myself a manual and happy about it so far =)
Just manual jam uphill is very tiring nia.....so prevent jam lor...lolx,coz the clutch is heavy,but u will get used to it anyway..

I did consider buy "kancil/kelisa/kenari " before...but last minute changed decision to get a savvy...
coz those 06 07 kelisa needs 22k++ ==". . and the interior is not nice as sawi(personal oppinion)...engine is old. .
but of coz cheap maintainance lor. . .

sawi good wat,no resale value = cheap ,newer car for less moolah. . .
jz tat don't bang and take gd care of the car. . .


This post has been edited by w33wawa: Apr 8 2013, 09:51 PM
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post Apr 8 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboyj @ Apr 8 2013, 07:08 PM)
Hi everyone! Fellow "Shawie" (hehe been reading posts here) owner!

09' MT. I love this car more than anything in my world atm.  wub.gif

I haven't had any problems so far (50k KM so far only) besides the issue with starting the engine. I've only noticed it when its a "cold" start. Warm starts always work for me somehow.
Also when I drop the clutch, sometimes I hear a like a knock on the right side of the car and a little feedback from the steering about it. The same knock I hear when taking a fast sharp turn but I can't be sure which wheel its coming from. That and the AC takes one big performance hit on the engine... lol.

I'm not a crankhead per se but I'd surely like to take her for a good service. 55k being the next "scheduled" Proton SC stop.
FC has been a little on the high side lately though.

That said, from davidke20's post I see Renautech, Osman Baba + RS Auto. I live in Shah Alam Sek 7 area.
I can get to Renautech that's fine. Just looking for a little help smile.gif

Thanks everyone! I might drop by for the TT sometime too!

My sis has a 07' AMT over 100k KM now and we ran into major issues with the gearbox stalling, car not starting etc etc. Dad is threatening with selling it off and getting a Myvi for her  mad.gif she loves the Savvy more than anything too. I might take that down for a good shakeup too. Hopefully they don't hit my wallet that hard....
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ppl always say hard to start engine is due to dirty TDC sensor...did u clean/mod the sensor b4?
no sure about the steering issue doe...
w33wawa
post Apr 8 2013, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 8 2013, 04:28 PM)
pallmall

Shawie is a good 2nd car if your budget is tight. However, maintenance not as friendly as we thought. Parts is slightly expansive on ENGINE and GEARBOX. You are right, AMT is even more troublesome. Manual for the win.

A good example our latest member w33wawa bought a Shawie 2009 for 16k, I personally drove the car out for a spin, the car is like new condition. His first service involved TDC sensor cleaning + wiring modification to prevent hard to crank start issue. Eventually this will happen to ALL Shawies be it manual or AMT. Engine oil change with full synthetic as well as synthetic gear oil. He's done many servicing & checking since its "NEW" from previous owner. Total damaged is 500+. Which is very worthwhile in my opinion.

Other than that, Shawie's timing belt is slightly expansive than other cars. Regular maintenance is as regular priced as any other cars. Some of Shawie weaknesses should address, for example weak steering rack & weak rear bearing, as well as weak rear drum brakes, tend to jam very often. Just take note when u feel the car draggy. Be sure to check if the brake cylinder is jammed. Always parked and adjust steering wheel to straight line to avoid power steering censor koyak, and also park with straighten steering wheel can reduced the stress to 1 side of your steering rack. Steering rack stopper was not proper designed, should avoid steering full turn. Usually people do full u-turn/parrellel parking tend to spin steering wheel very fast until hit the stopper create sound of "TOK!". This will stress the steering tie rod shaft and 1 fine day when the oil seal decided to give way, you'll be filling power steering fluid every other day.

1 last prevention u should take note, the torsion beam is an iron bar that link both your left & right wheels. Do not let anyone put a jack there to lift up your car. If u bent it, its gonna cost a bomb. Do take note, these are NOT only Shawie's weakness, it happened to many other vehicle as well. Just because its a freaking Plotong, people tend to bash a lot. Whilst I was fixing my bent torsion beam last time, an Altis drove in with a kang-kang rear wheels, but the Altis was less lucky had to replace a new beam for RM2200.

For servicing, please search for NOX our forumer's post. He got posted before on Renautech, Osman Baba & RS Auto contact number. They're all our beloved Shawie experts in KL Selangor area. Should you require further information, feel free to drop by our ever so loving little Shawie community. Love the Frenchie engine, adore the toilet bowl design. Live long & prosper Savvy! icon_rolleyes.gif
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so far i love my shawie =)
clutch also less noise and easier to press -> as of now...
now my gear at gear 1/2/3 no jerk edi after clean throttle body...smooth smooth


@davidke20 where u buy/install strut ball =)...
nx i plan to put strut bar/pasang insuflex -> the purpose is to reduce engine noise?

I want to mod the nice defi meter like yours as well...althou i duno how to read yet...lolx...
but is kinda good looking
recommend where to get the meter/do the mod...haha =)

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QUOTE(w33wawa @ Apr 8 2013, 09:45 PM)
ppl always say hard to start engine is due to dirty TDC sensor...did u clean/mod the sensor b4?
no sure about the steering issue doe...
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yeah I didnt know before reading here about the TDC sensor. so consider my car "stock"
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post Apr 8 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboyj @ Apr 8 2013, 10:25 PM)
yeah I didnt know before reading here about the TDC sensor. so consider my car "stock"
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Jz send ur car to renau tech/RS auto...they clean and mod ur sensor,most likely ur prob solved
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post Apr 9 2013, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(w33wawa @ Apr 8 2013, 10:03 PM)
so far i love my shawie =)
clutch also less noise and easier to press -> as of now...
now my gear at gear 1/2/3 no jerk edi after clean throttle body...smooth smooth
@davidke20 where u buy/install strut ball =)...
nx i plan to put strut bar/pasang insuflex -> the purpose is to reduce engine noise?

I want to mod the nice defi meter like yours as well...althou i duno how to read yet...lolx...
but is kinda good looking
recommend where to get the meter/do the mod...haha =)
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What meter? whistling.gif
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What bar? whistling.gif
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user posted image
user posted image
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For electric gauge, this is the cheapest I can find in Mudah. I use electric gauge in my BLM
http://www.mudah.my/Defi+BF+Link+Meter+Ful...nd-19748621.htm
My Shawie is analog mechanical dial gauge.

Bars can be obtain from EA Autoworks in Bukit Jalil. Last time I bulk with hcgui
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post Apr 9 2013, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboyj @ Apr 8 2013, 10:25 PM)
yeah I didnt know before reading here about the TDC sensor. so consider my car "stock"
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As w33wawa already answered most of your queries, you can send in for Renautech as they're the expert in Renault, price is acceptable. Do remember, EURO engine, EURO price. Compare apple to apple, you're having a very reliable EURO engine and EURO quality with EURO handling(Lotus). Despite Shawie looked like a toilet bowl with wheels, but its a very comfortable EURO toilet bowl. The closest match Plotong GaGa still can't beat the ride & handling in a Shawie.

As for AMT, I personally can't guarantee you after spending a fortune, the problem won't come back again. To fully overhaul an AMT transmission, price can come close to 3k. Not include if parts NEED to be replaced. I'm talking about service it back, not replacing. Please book for RS Auto, according to my understanding, RS and Osman is cheaper than Renautech. For me, Renautech is just simply easier accessible for me. Frankly, if within 1k can settle, then repair it back. If really more than 3k, I suggest you sell the damn car and buy another 1 better.

Not convenient to comment on MyBi. They've very good engine from Toyoga, fuel efficiency similar to Shawie, rides & handling.... I really can't comment much. Already kena 1 time warning, don't wanna get my account suspend because of commenting on other make/model sad.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 01:58 PM

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After almost 5 years, my power steering oil got leak and almost empty. sweat.gif found out yesterday. I seldom drive my nowadays cos i travel by train everyday.

so how much do u think i need to spend repairing this problems? I think switch switch something rosak aite?

edit: confirm edy PS switch got leak. sad.gif

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Apr 9 2013, 01:58 PM)
After almost 5 years, my power steering oil got leak and almost empty. sweat.gif found out yesterday. I seldom drive my nowadays cos i travel by train everyday.

so how much do u think i need to spend repairing this problems? I think switch switch something rosak aite?

edit: confirm edy PS switch got leak. sad.gif
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Get mechanic to sumbat a compatible nut to replace ps switch
Not worth getting a new ps switch at rm300++ which will spoil again in few yrs time
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QUOTE(gary_cheah85 @ Apr 9 2013, 09:40 PM)
Get mechanic to sumbat a compatible nut to replace ps switch
Not worth getting a new ps switch at rm300++ which will spoil again in few yrs time
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Any suggestion where at bro?
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post Apr 10 2013, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Apr 10 2013, 12:29 AM)
Any suggestion where at bro?
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http://savoc.net/v2/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1...5714a135136f4cb

If you have not, please register 1st. Full DIY solution
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post Apr 10 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 9 2013, 01:40 AM)
What meter? whistling.gif
user posted image



What bar? whistling.gif
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image

For electric gauge, this is the cheapest I can find in Mudah. I use electric gauge in my BLM
http://www.mudah.my/Defi+BF+Link+Meter+Ful...nd-19748621.htm
My Shawie is analog mechanical dial gauge.

Bars can be obtain from EA Autoworks in Bukit Jalil. Last time I bulk with hcgui
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I want that bar and the gauge =)
lolx.....

Can I still purchase the Bar with @hcgui now?
Defi Gauge....is all the way from JB....if buy here how much is the price diff?



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