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ahtiven
post Jun 20 2019, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jun 7 2019, 03:03 PM)
Nope dun have, all have been used and reserved for my next projects.
Come share your Tamiya once you have it.  smile.gif
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thanks i bought rc6gs and their receiver already.
going to wild willy 2 too.

i would like to buy nimh packs as well with T socket, any recommended brand/place?
SupermotoXL
post Jun 20 2019, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Jun 20 2019, 11:23 AM)
thanks i bought rc6gs and their receiver already.
going to wild willy 2 too.

i would like to buy nimh packs as well with T socket, any recommended brand/place?
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Nice to hear you're getting Wild Willy 2 soon. rclxms.gif
Btw ORION NIMH pack is good but i wouldn't recommend NIMH pack since the battery are very cumbersome to maintain, less efficient and doesn't last long. I've bunch of NIMH pack rendered unusable because of 'memory capacity' effect'.
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post Jun 25 2019, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jun 20 2019, 07:32 PM)
Nice to hear you're getting Wild Willy 2 soon.  rclxms.gif
Btw ORION NIMH pack is good but i wouldn't recommend NIMH pack since the battery are very cumbersome to maintain, less efficient and doesn't last long.  I've bunch of NIMH pack rendered unusable because of 'memory capacity' effect'.
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no, i actually have WW2 already. and the electronics - hobbywing esc, servo etc

except the battery. because i need to find T plug battery (lazy to change from tamiya to Tplug) with the shape like this.
dont think they have lipo shaped like this?

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dc_hunter
post Jun 29 2019, 06:28 PM

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Hi Guys. Newbie here. I have a nimh batt.
6 x 4600mah with 1.2v each.
Can i know how do i configure my charger?
How many amp i need to set and how many volt i need to set?
How long i need to charge?

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SupermotoXL
post Jun 30 2019, 09:35 AM

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Just set it to auto to charge itself.
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post Jun 30 2019, 12:23 PM

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Hi old timer, would like to inquire where is best to buy RGT EX86100? website or shopee or other online platform? i am located at sarawak here

https://sea.banggood.com/RGT-EX86100-110-2_...ur_warehouse=CN

i got saw one like this in banggood. is banggood good or other online platform got cheaper and reliable? thanks wub.gif

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SupermotoXL
post Jun 30 2019, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Speedodevo @ Jun 30 2019, 12:23 PM)
Hi old timer, would like to inquire where is best to buy RGT EX86100? website or shopee or other online platform? i am located at sarawak here

https://sea.banggood.com/RGT-EX86100-110-2_...ur_warehouse=CN

i got saw one like this in banggood. is banggood good or other online platform got cheaper and reliable? thanks   wub.gif
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I purchase lot of R/C stuff from banggood and yes 100% reliable, cheap and ships via SEA DIRECT fast via Ninja Van parcel services. flex.gif
I'm also from Sarawak. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 2 2019, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Feb 2 2019, 03:32 PM)
Do 3100kv is enough for drift or I should replace it with 4000kv motor? Also the drift angle much easier to maintain with locked rear drift right? Currently not lock yet & the car tend to get out of a drift. Also I'm noob which one of the reason. biggrin.gif I should lock the rear diff before messing with the gears (ratio) right?
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How's your drift project going?
why not go down the RWD route. most RC drift cars nowadays uses RWD setup.
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post Jul 3 2019, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(HaiiSuan @ Jul 2 2019, 02:34 PM)
How's your drift project going?
why not go down the RWD route. most RC drift cars nowadays uses RWD setup.
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Finished. I'm still learning how to drift. I'm suck lol. I want convert to RWD too but based on the info I gathered for HSP, little modification needed like need to move motor mount to top-center. Removing either the front dogbones or center drive shaft or both is not enough. It just want to spin instead of drifting. I read that is because the front is heavy.
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post Jul 3 2019, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 3 2019, 12:49 AM)
Finished. I'm still learning how to drift. I'm suck lol. I want convert to RWD too but based on the info I gathered for HSP, little modification needed like need to move motor mount to top-center. Removing either the front dogbones or center drive shaft or both is not enough. It just want to spin instead of drifting. I read that is because the front is heavy.
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Wow, RWD takes ultimate skills and difficulty to drift than 4WD. bruce.gif
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post Jul 3 2019, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jul 3 2019, 12:59 PM)
Wow, RWD takes ultimate skills and difficulty to drift than 4WD.  bruce.gif
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True. I can't even get it to slide at all, just spin even when I really careful with the throttle. Is sensored motor a must with RWD?
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post Jul 3 2019, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 3 2019, 02:41 PM)
True. I can't even get it to slide at all, just spin even when I really careful with the throttle. Is sensored motor a must with RWD?
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Not necessary to have sensored motor unless your motor KV is too high and have stutter problem during startup or acceleratio. That's the reason why people still love to used classic brushed motor for smooth drift because you can control the throttle smoother at low rate. However if you change your pinion gear with smaller lower teeth count that also helps a lot to smoothen your throttle control regardless brushed or brushless motor.
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post Jul 4 2019, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 3 2019, 12:49 AM)
Finished. I'm still learning how to drift. I'm suck lol. I want convert to RWD too but based on the info I gathered for HSP, little modification needed like need to move motor mount to top-center. Removing either the front dogbones or center drive shaft or both is not enough. It just want to spin instead of drifting. I read that is because the front is heavy.
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I suck at RC drifting too. do you have gyro in your setup? RWD drift cars always uses gyro.
have you look into your ackerman setup?
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hey any arrma outcast owner here? I lost my spring retainer and paying USD15 for bits of plastic seems kinda steep
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post Jul 6 2019, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jul 3 2019, 07:30 PM)
Not necessary to have sensored motor unless your motor KV is too high and have stutter problem during startup or acceleratio.  That's the reason why people still love to used classic brushed motor for smooth drift because you can control the throttle smoother at low rate.  However if you change your pinion gear with smaller lower teeth count that also helps a lot to smoothen your throttle control regardless brushed or brushless motor.
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I use hsp flying fish converted to RWD for reference. The reason I use 26t pinion because they use high teeth count pinion in their RWD drifter. However they use "proper" motor which is build/marketed for drift. I have max10 and g2 4000kv motor. I did fitted 21t pinion currently. I know RWD is difficult to drift but a noob should be able to get some drifting right? Mine just want to spin at any throttle input. Also I can't find anyone documented what they did when they convert their hsp flying fish to RWD. The best I can find are videos in Russian. I was like should I remove the front diff too to lighten up the front? The way my drifter behaves like the front is too heavy.

QUOTE(HaiiSuan @ Jul 4 2019, 01:44 PM)
I suck at RC drifting too. do you have gyro in your setup? RWD drift cars always uses gyro.
have you look into your ackerman setup?
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No I don't use gyro. I'm still fine tuning my drifter. I didn't touch ackerman yet.

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post Jul 7 2019, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 6 2019, 07:33 AM)
I use hsp flying fish converted to RWD for reference. The reason I use 26t pinion because they use high teeth count pinion in their RWD drifter. However they use "proper" motor which is build/marketed for drift. I have max10 and g2 4000kv motor. I did fitted 21t pinion currently. I know RWD is difficult to drift but a noob should be able to get some drifting right? Mine just want to spin at any throttle input. Also I can't find anyone documented what they did when they convert their hsp flying fish to RWD. The best I can find are videos in Russian. I was like should I remove the front diff too to lighten up the front? The way my drifter behaves like the front is too heavy.
No I don't use gyro. I'm still fine tuning my drifter. I didn't touch ackerman yet.
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Actually you just need to shift the weight to counter the back portion, if you actually look at the fact that lots of R/C out there going out for bashing are 2WD at the rear like 2WD off-road buggy and monster truck. They can race, speed, corner and etc on 2WD and yes the can drift on dirt to easily. You just need proper throttle trigger and timming to get it right. Here i have a snapshots of my 2WD buggy drifting on dirt during cornering.

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Yeah!! dirt drifting flex.gif

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post Jul 8 2019, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jul 7 2019, 08:16 PM)
Actually you just need to shift the weight to counter the back portion, if you actually look at the fact that lots of R/C out there going out for bashing are 2WD at the rear like 2WD off-road buggy and monster truck.  They can race, speed, corner and etc on 2WD and yes the can drift on dirt to easily.  You just need proper throttle trigger and timming to get it right.  Here i have a snapshots of my 2WD buggy drifting on dirt during cornering.

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Yeah!! dirt drifting  flex.gif
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I agreed to everything you said. I believe I can manage throttle properly. The only problem is weight distribution. I'll try add more weight to the back. Most people moved the motor to the center. Meaning the motor is mounted on top of the chassis brace.

I have no problem converting hsp buggy to 2WD/RWD & running it. Turning also sharper. I kinda like it. I might keep it 2WD. Ops, no more running on tall grass though.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 8 2019, 02:25 AM)
I agreed to everything you said. I believe I can manage throttle properly. The only problem is weight distribution. I'll try add more weight to the back. Most people moved the motor to the center. Meaning the motor is mounted on top of the chassis brace.

I have no problem converting hsp buggy to 2WD/RWD & running it. Turning also sharper. I kinda like it. I might keep it 2WD. Ops, no more running on tall grass though.
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Oh yes i have to let you know that from my observation on my 1:10 2WD touring car, 1:12 2WD Pan-car, 1:28 Kyosho Mini-Z (Mr-01/Mr02) and also tarmac based tourer all of them have slightly wider rear tire and rear or mid mounted motor close to the diff/axle. So that would give you some hint what's the weight distribution is.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 6 2019, 07:33 AM)
I use hsp flying fish converted to RWD for reference. The reason I use 26t pinion because they use high teeth count pinion in their RWD drifter. However they use "proper" motor which is build/marketed for drift. I have max10 and g2 4000kv motor. I did fitted 21t pinion currently. I know RWD is difficult to drift but a noob should be able to get some drifting right? Mine just want to spin at any throttle input. Also I can't find anyone documented what they did when they convert their hsp flying fish to RWD. The best I can find are videos in Russian. I was like should I remove the front diff too to lighten up the front? The way my drifter behaves like the front is too heavy.
No I don't use gyro. I'm still fine tuning my drifter. I didn't touch ackerman yet.
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try to use gyro. RC4GS receiver got built in gyro yo. set up your ackerman also
QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jul 7 2019, 08:16 PM)
Actually you just need to shift the weight to counter the back portion, if you actually look at the fact that lots of R/C out there going out for bashing are 2WD at the rear like 2WD off-road buggy and monster truck.  They can race, speed, corner and etc on 2WD and yes the can drift on dirt to easily.  You just need proper throttle trigger and timming to get it right.  Here i have a snapshots of my 2WD buggy drifting on dirt during cornering.

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Yeah!! dirt drifting  flex.gif
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I have a 2wd serpent mt2. wild thing but fun to play.
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post Jul 8 2019, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jul 8 2019, 06:11 AM)
Oh yes i have to let you know that from my observation on my 1:10 2WD touring car, 1:12 2WD Pan-car, 1:28 Kyosho Mini-Z (Mr-01/Mr02) and also tarmac based tourer all of them have slightly wider rear tire and rear or mid mounted motor close to the diff/axle.  So that would give you some hint what's the weight distribution is.
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That Pan-car look nice. Too bad it is expensive though. Thank you for the info btw.

QUOTE(HaiiSuan @ Jul 8 2019, 02:26 PM)
try to use gyro. RC4GS receiver got built in gyro yo. set up your ackerman also
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I try to avoid gyro. I even turn off gyro in my Traxxas Stampede because I don't like it. I know I can adjust sensitivity but I turn it off altogether.

Thank you, I will set up that. smile.gif I need to do some reading for RWD setup. Looks like I need to change a lot of things for changing from 4WD to RWD.

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