Stiff Rings...Rigid Collars...
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 Sep 15 2012, 05:01 PM
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I believe not every one can feel the "difference", different type of human what.
 I had mine installed and yes I can feel it, less knocking noise from undercarriage and now I can only get the noise from rear because they haven't release the rigid collar for rear side. Going over bumps and pot holes definitely has improvement. I am a fussy person and I really can feel or knowing what is my car doing when running on the road. |
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Sep 17 2012, 05:24 PM
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9,417 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Bladin Point, Northern Territory
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Interesting chassis upgrade, I wonder if they're better than spot welding the chassis. Because my welding skills are shitty to say the least.
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Sep 17 2012, 09:06 PM
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384 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: KK ,MUAR, SELANGOR, KL, KUDAT, PUTATAN, SERDANG 
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 17 2012, 05:24 PM) Interesting chassis upgrade, I wonder if they're better than spot welding the chassis. Because my welding skills are shitty to say the least. spot welding and stiff rings not the same....coz this collar is insert to the subframe bolts....to fill the gap between the sibframe and the bolt spot welding is to the chassis, yet the subframe and subframe bolt still got gap in between |
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Sep 18 2012, 03:24 AM
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Sep 17 2012, 09:06 PM) spot welding and stiff rings not the same....coz this collar is insert to the subframe bolts....to fill the gap between the sibframe and the bolt True true. They aren't the same but I guess they both aim for the same effect which is to stiffen up the ride and try to reduce flex/skip/movement as much as possible by increasing rigidity. spot welding is to the chassis, yet the subframe and subframe bolt still got gap in between Just wondering how much better it is than say moving towards titanium carbon strut bars for the front and rears with firewall bracing and other upgrades when it comes to pure trackwork and the comparison of effect with other upgrades. |
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Sep 18 2012, 08:22 AM
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384 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: KK ,MUAR, SELANGOR, KL, KUDAT, PUTATAN, SERDANG
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 18 2012, 03:24 AM) True true. They aren't the same but I guess they both aim for the same effect which is to stiffen up the ride and try to reduce flex/skip/movement as much as possible by increasing rigidity. if the engine is not replaced with another type...normally dun need spot welding chassis, as it will failed the puspakom test. unless its off road use, then it is ok.Just wondering how much better it is than say moving towards titanium carbon strut bars for the front and rears with firewall bracing and other upgrades when it comes to pure trackwork and the comparison of effect with other upgrades. for normal street use, normally what we see is upper strut bar installed, which is mount at absorber top mounting areas..be it front or rear. and most oem jdm sports car comes with it originally. |
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Sep 18 2012, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Sep 18 2012, 08:22 AM) if the engine is not replaced with another type...normally dun need spot welding chassis, as it will failed the puspakom test. unless its off road use, then it is ok. Nah, just want the rigidity. Probably better off with stiffening foam though. Plus I haven't welded for a very long time and taking apart the Evo to reach the chassis seems to be a bit excessive. for normal street use, normally what we see is upper strut bar installed, which is mount at absorber top mounting areas..be it front or rear. and most oem jdm sports car comes with it originally. The Evo comes to front struts, but I just have a thing for exotic materials like Titanium and carbon , thus my absurd need to get Titanium conrods from Arrow precision. |
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Sep 18 2012, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Aug 20 2012, 11:59 AM) Hello all, I drive a satria neo. Installed this stiff ring not too long ago. For some reason, the car feels more sensitive now. I presume this is due to the so-called "improve chasis feedback"? Stiff Ring improves your car handling when driving on bumpy roads and conering.The car does feel more agile since the the steering is now more direct. As for comfort...no, i don't feel any difference in the comfort level. My car is still as firm as before It does not improve comfort. |
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Sep 19 2012, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(AtMostFear @ Aug 13 2012, 03:28 AM) really interested to get this mod, but having a few doubts which brand to choose. hmmm.. interesting.. how much is the price difference btw stiff ring and rigid collar ?copy pasted this from another forum. any comments from fellow members here? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Sep 21 2012, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Sep 19 2012, 10:19 AM) hmmm.. interesting.. how much is the price difference btw stiff ring and rigid collar ? should be a lot... its like comparing Cusco and UR racing bars...if not mistaken (lazy to use google, so hope my memory is still correct), rigid collar is by spoon (honda tuner), their rigid collars are limited to only a few non honda car models... |
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Sep 21 2012, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 21 2012, 02:47 PM) should be a lot... its like comparing Cusco and UR racing bars... spoon now offers wide variety of cars ediif not mistaken (lazy to use google, so hope my memory is still correct), rigid collar is by spoon (honda tuner), their rigid collars are limited to only a few non honda car models... |
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Sep 22 2012, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Sep 21 2012, 06:18 PM) spoon now offers wide variety of cars edi yup, but still mainly honda and other performance, JDM cars... Stiffrings are more localized... |
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Nov 27 2012, 09:20 AM
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I think those stiff ring are made to be "soft so it can be "mold" according to the joint surface. So it does look like coca cola tin i guess.
Question, do they sort of put some glue on the stiff ring? Scare some mechanic throw away thatstiff ring after un screw something. or even if they put back, it wont be d same liao. |
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Nov 27 2012, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Nov 27 2012, 09:20 AM) I think those stiff ring are made to be "soft so it can be "mold" according to the joint surface. So it does look like coca cola tin i guess. actually no, they are supposed to be stiff/rigid so that it can withstand the force being pressured to hold the gaps together.Question, do they sort of put some glue on the stiff ring? Scare some mechanic throw away thatstiff ring after un screw something. or even if they put back, it wont be d same liao. and no they do not put glue on the stiff ring. so you should be present if you want to make sure your stiff ring don't get discarded when you do repairs/replacement that involve opening up parts that has stiff ring installed. |
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Nov 27 2012, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 27 2012, 10:42 AM) actually no, they are supposed to be stiff/rigid so that it can withstand the force being pressured to hold the gaps together. hmm ye keh? but from all these website stiff ring, stiff collar stiff peni s....ohh waii and no they do not put glue on the stiff ring. so you should be present if you want to make sure your stiff ring don't get discarded when you do repairs/replacement that involve opening up parts that has stiff ring installed. it seems like they are made to be soft. look at this diagram   |
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Nov 27 2012, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Nov 27 2012, 10:49 AM) hmm ye keh? but from all these website stiff ring, stiff collar stiff peni s....ohh waii can refer to the post earlier on the more expensive "original/earlier" product it seems like they are made to be soft. look at this diagram that said, my stiff ring haven't bent/damaged yet (inspected it while i serviced my rear axle) |
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Dec 7 2012, 10:22 PM
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Thats comforting to hear, i'm going to have mine installed soon. Cant wait for the feedback it'll give to my car.
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Dec 7 2012, 11:42 PM
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Getting mine in 3 weeks time (hopefully)....custom made and the first vehicle of its kind to use these rings. Got it at a special rate too
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Dec 8 2012, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE(jackal400 @ Dec 7 2012, 11:42 PM) Getting mine in 3 weeks time (hopefully)....custom made and the first vehicle of its kind to use these rings. Got it at a special rate too share more info bro |
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Dec 8 2012, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Dec 8 2012, 06:45 AM) share more info bro Sorry brah...no extra info |
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May 16 2013, 02:18 PM
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If install these, need to do alignment?
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