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post Aug 3 2012, 06:22 PM


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http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2588

AmDynamic Suku confirmed on board FSM biggrin.gif

Interesting to note -
"Although this fund intends to invest globally, it might be constrained by substantial home bias given that Malaysia is the world’s largest Sukuk market. This is reflected in the fund’s benchmark. As stated in its prospectus, Bloomberg AIBIM Bursa Malaysia Sovereign Shariah Index is chosen as the fund’s benchmark."
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post Aug 3 2012, 07:24 PM


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Anyone making payments by CIMB Clicks Internet bill payment? What's the daily limit?

Edit: Found the info - RM30K

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post Aug 3 2012, 08:16 PM


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 3 2012, 03:44 PM)

Added on August 3, 2012, 3:49 pmGuys,

Hwang Global Property Fund is now on board FSM
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYHWGPF

Another choice for REIT/Property exposure seekers biggrin.gif
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So are you aiming for this fund? It has heavy US exposure.
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post Aug 3 2012, 11:04 PM


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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 3 2012, 09:16 PM)
So are you aiming for this fund? It has heavy US exposure.
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Let's see the performance for 6-12 months first.. Hehe
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post Aug 3 2012, 11:34 PM


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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 3 2012, 08:16 PM)
So are you aiming for this fund? It has heavy US exposure.
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I actually bought this fund before...during 2008, just before Bear Stearns event... brows.gif

...and sold before I die of excessive blood loss sweat.gif
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post Aug 4 2012, 12:57 AM


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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 3 2012, 11:04 PM)
Let's see the performance for 6-12 months first.. Hehe
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This is not a new fund even FSM website doesn't have data at fund info page. You can view the fund datasheet to know its past performance.
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post Aug 4 2012, 01:06 AM


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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 4 2012, 12:57 AM)
This is not a new fund even FSM website doesn't have data at fund info page. You can view the fund datasheet to know its past performance.
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Normally it takes about a few days to a week for FSM to fully incorporate a "new" fund's past data
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post Aug 4 2012, 07:48 AM


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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 3 2012, 03:54 PM)
If by 2020 I can get 30-40K in MYR terms per annum, I am already happy. SGD50K, it will be impossible for me at my current situation. Even getting 30-40K MYR is already not likely for me already.. sad.gif
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Hiow olde are you?

i am already 50 ler, also makan gaji......

sikit sikit jadi BUKit........ biggrin.gif
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post Aug 4 2012, 07:49 AM


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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 4 2012, 01:57 AM)
This is not a new fund even FSM website doesn't have data at fund info page. You can view the fund datasheet to know its past performance.
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Oh.. Okok? Thought is new.. My bad
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post Aug 4 2012, 08:10 AM


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3 New Funds Added For The Month Of August 2012!

1. AMDYNAMIC SUKUK
2. HWANG GLOBAL PROPERTY FUND
3. Fund: Hwang Asia Pacific (ex Japan) Infrastructure Fund

URL: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2588
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post Aug 4 2012, 08:46 AM


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 3 2012, 11:34 PM)
I actually bought this fund before...during 2008, just before Bear Stearns event... brows.gif

...and sold before I die of excessive blood loss sweat.gif
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Well, the US real estate market seems like bottoming now. When it picks up, the fund may benefit from that. whistling.gif
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post Aug 4 2012, 09:52 AM


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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 4 2012, 08:46 AM)
Well, the US real estate market seems like bottoming now. When it picks up, the fund may benefit from that. whistling.gif
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Yea I know...my prob last time was, I bought in right before the shitstorm in 2008. laugh.gif

Lucky I cut loss and switch out all at -15% sweat.gif
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post Aug 4 2012, 11:35 AM


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 4 2012, 09:52 AM)
Yea I know...my prob last time was, I bought in right before the shitstorm in 2008. laugh.gif

Lucky I cut loss and switch out all at -15% sweat.gif
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Oh I see. Thanks for sharing the valuable even though painful experience.
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post Aug 4 2012, 11:41 AM


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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 4 2012, 11:35 AM)
Oh I see. Thanks for sharing the valuable even though painful experience.
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Hwang GPF was my 1st fund...will remember the experience for life laugh.gif

1st time introduced to the concept of REIT...

Property...
Rental yield...

It sounded so rosy...until Bear Stearns + Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac collapse laugh.gif
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post Aug 4 2012, 11:45 AM


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 4 2012, 11:41 AM)
Hwang GPF was my 1st fund...will remember the experience for life laugh.gif

1st time introduced to the concept of REIT...

Property...
Rental yield...

It sounded so rosy...until Bear Stearns + Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac collapse laugh.gif
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My first fund was PITTIKAL.

Then, my first fund which caught me into blood bath was PCSF.


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post Aug 4 2012, 11:49 AM


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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 4 2012, 11:45 AM)
My first fund was PITTIKAL.

Then, my first fund which caught me into blood bath was PCSF.
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1st - Hwang Global Propety Fund
- fully switched out to Hwang SIF when US subprime collapse

2nd - Hwang Global Financial Institutions Fund
- at one point I was down -20%++ doh.gif
- held on cos selling before maturity on 2013 will incur withdrawal fees
- now +6% sweat.gif

3rd - Hwang Select Income Fund
- annualised return since 2008: 8% thumbup.gif
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post Aug 4 2012, 11:54 AM


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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 25 2012, 11:21 PM)
If you're keep on losing money in a particular shares, you still want to hold it? I believe there's must be a stop loss point.

Share a bad experience that I had with shares. I bought a penny stock at nearly peak price 2 to 3 year. Being hold it till recent months when the price rebounced back to the previous peak in 3 years ago. Sold it and make a profit of nearly 50 to 60. Am I stupid or what?
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You weren't stupid, just lucky smile.gif and as always it's the dollar amount, not the percentage that counts. You can make 60% on a Rm100 investment, but it's still only Rm60. If you make 1% on a 1mil investment, it's Rm10,000 smile.gif so do you want to make 60% or 1%? smile.gif


Added on August 4, 2012, 11:58 am
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 3 2012, 04:59 PM)
I only drink at kedai kopi with old apeks laugh.gif
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I only drink at home, nothing beats making your own coffee. You can make it how you want, and drink it how and where you want, you can be wearing shorts and no shirt, and when you are finished you don't have to get up and go anywhere smile.gif

All that, and it's actually cheaper smile.gif


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 4 2012, 11:49 AM)
1st - Hwang Global Propety Fund
- fully switched out to Hwang SIF when US subprime collapse

2nd - Hwang Global Financial Institutions Fund
- at one point I was down -20%++ doh.gif
- held on cos selling before maturity on 2013 will incur withdrawal fees
- now +6% sweat.gif

3rd - Hwang Select Income Fund
- annualised return since 2008: 8% thumbup.gif
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Are those figures ex-service charge? or net service charge?


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post Aug 6 2012, 10:19 AM


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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 4 2012, 11:54 AM)
Are those figures ex-service charge? or net service charge?
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Net lar...

total invested - value of investment = profit/loss
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post Aug 6 2012, 04:28 PM


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 6 2012, 10:19 AM)
Net lar...

total invested - value of investment = profit/loss
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It's this one http://hwangim.com/products/view/28 right?

What about management fees? and custodian fees? I'm trying to figure out the actual performance of all your funds, net of management fees, switching fees, management fees etc.

1. How many years were you on Hwang Global Property Fund? you lost 15% when you switched out correct? does that include switching fees and annual management fees?

2. How many years are you on Hwang Global Financial Institutions Fund? are you still in?

3. Hwang Select Income Fund, is 8% p.a. net of management fees, since 2008?


I'm trying to figure out the actual performance of your capital smile.gif or if you have already done it, what is your net performance of your capital (that is, your equity balance) if you were to withdraw it all now?


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post Aug 6 2012, 04:34 PM


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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 6 2012, 04:28 PM)
It's this one http://hwangim.com/products/view/28 right?

What about management fees? and custodian fees? I'm trying to figure out the actual performance of all your funds, net of management fees, switching fees, management fees etc.

1. How many years were you on Hwang Global Property Fund? you lost 15% when you switched out correct? does that include switching fees and annual management fees?

2. How many years are you on Hwang Global Financial Institutions Fund? are you still in?

3. Hwang Select Income Fund, is 8% p.a. net of management fees, since 2008?
I'm trying to figure out the actual performance of your capital smile.gif or if you have already done it, what is your net performance of your capital (that is, your equity balance) if you were to withdraw it all now?
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U seriously need to brush up on basics of unit trust doh.gif

Mangements fees & trustee/custodian fees is already accounted for in the NAV valuation...

For Global Property Fund,
I put 2K (including sales charge)
I take out 1.7K+/-
loss 200++

simple as that

My Select Income, my total invested is RM5K+
if withdraw all now I can take RM7K+
invested since 2008


Added on August 6, 2012, 4:37 pmi did not dump in 5K one shot...the 5K is built up over the course of 4 years

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