Oversea equity heavy and PFES used to give a ROI of >20%.

PFES fund manager is Tan Yan Heong. He managed a lot of good funds. That's why can trust him though. PFES has 60% exposure to China. Hopefully China market can keep the momentum.

Shanghai CI, now 22xx. Previously the peak was 5xxx. More like 50% discount

wah Mois - U use PEAK to measure discount? Optimistically Optimistic

Me - i use the lower of median Vs average as baseline, then compare current to it to see the "discount": pessimistically optimist

No right/wrong (only wong ) yar, just sharing thoughts out loud

how you use the lower median vs average? Which website provide such chart? I use bloomberg. Maybe it is in there?

Anybody is going for this event?

URL: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3032

0.5% SC for all funds on the day of event: 20th January (Penang), 26th January (KL)

KL event is always on a Saturday...I'm working

Raw data: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=000001.SS+Historical+Prices
Export to Excel and cook, then enjoy

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Added on January 3, 2013, 10:02 amNice... 0.5%SC on ALL FUNDS. I'm going shopping for BRICs, Commodities & REITs <hunts for sniper rifle, bullets and grenades for asset hunting>

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jan 3 2013, 10:04 AM

But...how? Transact online on event day at event venue?

Come JB leh. I want 0.5% SC =D

Dunno - i've sent an email to Eugene of FSM to ask ask liao on T&C, especially whether we need to be PHYSICALLY there or we can just register and transact on THAT DATE . Will keep U guys posted

LOGICALLY, it should be 0.5% SC for all fund purchases transacted on FSM website on that day.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 3 2013, 10:12 AM

Logically/theoretically the same as practise
But in practice may not
No worries - best to get from source & share here later

Wow... 0.5% SC even for Hwang.. interesting for me as well! But I cant buy much, usually my bonus will be before CNY, sob sob...

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Added on January 3, 2013, 10:27 amWong san,

Did you also ask how to win the RM10K portfolio price? Hehe...

This post has been edited by Kaka23: Jan 3 2013, 10:27 AM

Regarding FSM's Unit Trust Investment fair
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3032

Feedback from FSM
a. How to register:
Registration online (i was blind - thought the webpage above's registration link was for Penang only ):
For easy execution: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/home/...d=Evt1301020001

b. On whether we need to PHYSICALLY be there to get the special 0.5% service charge on all funds:
Encourage the investors to go to the event and record themselves in the list.
If really cannot make it, FSM will see how we can assist for the online order on that date.

T&C will be attending our event and place order and make payment on the same day.
However, FSM will give some grace period for the investors to make a payment on case to case basis.
Details will be made known to investors on the event itself.

c. How to win RM10K portfolio...
Didnt ask hehe - if get, bonus lor.

PS - just received additional info from FSM (dang, Eugene's FAST in getting back with info... iFAST ) :
1. For winning the portfolio, the format will be similar to last year where the investors need to visit all the booths and get the chops to have an entry.
At the end of the event we will have lucky draw and the winners must present themselves when we announce the winners around 6pm.

2. There will be no limit on purchase amount for the 0.5% discount on that day.

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jan 3 2013, 11:45 AM

how you calculate overall paper gain? add all ROI and divide by the number of funds?

How do people calculate total XIRR returns for a few funds? add *funds XIRR* and divide by the number of funds?

The formula I used for Overall Paper Gain = SUM of all current valuation of all funds / SUM of total cost invested * 100%

Ah.. that looks easy to get chop. Now need to figure out if only one winner for the 10K? Or few winners share the 10K... hehe...

Now thinking if weather want to go or not!!!

I don't see much value in XIRR from an investment point of view.

XIRR is from an accounting point of view in terms of how much you actually made, technically the true returns you made, in the past. Which depends on how much you put in, when you put it in, and how much you withdrew. If your timing is awful, it's reflected in XIRR as well, but that doesn't mean the fund is bad.

From an investment point of view (forward looking), the annualized returns is what you need to look at. Having said that, and back to your question, I use a SQL database for my calculations, which include the equivalent of XIRR.

Agreed.

Badly timed moves be it purchases or withdrawals would be reflected in the XIRR.

My take:
Annualised returns of the fund as per the fund fact sheets tell whether the fund had performed well.
XIRR calculations tell the performance of your fund/portfolio

Just my 1 sen worth of opinion

so no one's going for the event?