The one in korean showroom was not the original rim... factory-fitted rims only come with the following designs...

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Added on February 13, 2012, 11:42 pm408 should be a great car but the brand is not that "accessible" to many people...

This post has been edited by caddilac: Feb 13 2012, 11:42 PM

If you never own a continental car, you will never know their problem...
I know that there are many happy owner out there... But many are not...
Although 308 is very reasonably priced but it will never get to sell in large number because of their reputation in the past... French car (as well as Italian) are well known for their electrical problem and some minor minor problem which can be irritating...

This post has been edited by caddilac: Feb 14 2012, 12:02 AM

Maybe they launch 1.6 on 22nd then 1.8 on 29th...

Real sad to hear about that...

Cruze 1.8 fully imported also below 100k...

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Added on February 15, 2012, 12:19 amI think very high chance the car will reach showroom without confirmed pricing...

This post has been edited by caddilac: Feb 15 2012, 12:19 AM

Veloster in singapore already?

But the look of elantra alone will be convincing enough for many people... just like how the civic managed to be so popular at that time... proton tuah is way too dull and conservative compared to elantra and even forte... the design is not cohesive as a whole especially the interior and showing the lack of experience of car maker... the exora steering is a huge turn off for me...

But I believe the styling is one of the major factor that rocketed the Civic's sales. People who don't know much about cars will not bother to care about the i-Vtec or how many gears or performance... If you talking about those factors, Lancer is quite similar yet Lancer was selling badly compared to Civic even before it was Proton-ised. If you are to talk about generations of success, I believe Corolla had better reputation than Civic. Then you look at Sonata and Tucson, both of them don't have much reputation compared to the Japanese yet they are selling at decent numbers now. There are still many people don't care (or know) much about the spec or mechanical of the cars but they care about the styling of the cars if they are indifferent about the resale value or reputation or after sales.

Latio selling so badly maybe Nissan no reputation also... But then GL selling so well...
Why 110k don't want to go EON? Not 1.1million...
sell in small numbers also have to see how small or big is it... Mazda6 got look + goodies + Japan reputation, but the sales

But Optima seems to be selling quite decently despite the fierce looking.. Maybe still in honeymoon period... Until now get to see 4 Optimas otr...

Kia was being rescued by Hyundai during the 97 crisis after declaring bankruptcy... Hyundai used to own 51% of Kia's share but few years ago it dropped below 50%... Both company form Hyundai-Kia Automotive Group, currently the fifth largest automakers in the world.

Sorry to say that GOA is a joke to me... Cars like Avanza and Innova also can claim GOA.. One of their GOA body European model only got 3-star in EuroNCAP two years ago.. Avanza with GOA body? ChinaNCAP achieved 3-star (Daihatsu Xenia in China)...
So i can't quite understand the usefulness of GOA.. Are they trying to ruin their GOA with 3-star car? Or is it that GOA body will vary from 3 to 5 star? Then what is the whole point of GOA I also can't understand. Because when you get a GOA car then your car can be ranging among 3 to 5...

So GOA is just a marketing jargon from Toyota. Yet the jargon doesn't really live up to its name.
People may start questioning how come Global "Outstanding" Assessment achieved 3 stars. Does 3-stars equivalent to outstanding?

Diesel engine
Fiesta FC not bad and get 5-stars EuroNCAP...

30km/L is Mazda 2 with SkyActiv but the SkyActiv on Mazda 2 is quite different from CX-5 and 3... Mazda 2 1.3 SkyActiv doesn't use Direct Injection whereas CX5 and 3 do.
CX-5 official FC for Petrol 16km/L, diesel 18.6km/L...

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Added on February 17, 2012, 11:14 amMazda SkyActiv diesel is one of the latest diesel tech from Jap. Mitsubishi 4N1 also a new diesel engine. Honda is coming out with an all new 1.6 diesel as well. Now Nissan is selling X-Trail diesel in japan and also CX-5 diesel is being sold now. Anything to do with their country policy?
Only Toyota is lazy with diesel because they are trying to push their petrol Hybrid range as the new clean diesel engine has similar FC with Hybrid. That's why they don't wanna let people wonder why buy hybrid when diesel can get similar FC. So I believe that is Toyota's own problem.
Just like the Kia Rio diesel is now the cleanest non-electric car in Europe with only 85g/km Co2 emissions. Toyota Prius is emitting 89g/km CO2 which is lower than the Kia Rio. That's why many people still believe that there is still a long way to go for internal combustion engine because more and more technology is achieving better and better result.
Hybrid is great in cutting emission of petrol engine but when you talking about running and ownership cost, it still can't beat diesel engine in current stage as well as the near future. If you want to do the best, diesel hybrid should be the one to go.

This post has been edited by caddilac: Feb 17 2012, 11:17 AM

Few years back nobody sell diesel car in Japan. Now they are starting to offer which show some changes in automakers' thinking.
Jap wise I believe the biggest factor is consumer's preference as well as lack of diesel engine choices. In fact most part of world is the same as most markets have very little diesel powered car available for consumer and new diesel tech requires higher fuel grade which many countries don't have. That's why diesel power is not popular yet. Consumers need to be educated because most people are still having the kind of mentality that diesel car is very dirty n vibrate like hell.

omg! the leather seat looks scary!

too cheap to be true... Maybe 86888 is for 1.6AT low spec

Singapore is having 6 airbags for high spec model. Base model comes with 2.

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Added on February 18, 2012, 8:41 amInokom will tell you this is a car with new thinking so that is the new possibility of modern premium especially those weird red lines:lol:

This post has been edited by caddilac: Feb 18 2012, 08:41 AM

Logo actually not a big issue should be easy to change... Some more inside the car is Hyundai logo already...