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Investment THE ROBERTSON @ BUKIT BINTANG, A prestigious project by GamudaLand 2014
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kenji1903
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Oct 14 2013, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(natman @ Oct 14 2013, 10:09 AM) My friend just went to the one in HK the sales can be as low as 70-80% even some are lower OMG, gamuda want to kill petaling streets business la  HK's premium outlet in Tung Chung very the far leh... it's almost Tai Yu Shan there... near Disneyland and Airport  but its very cheap lar... China people go there sapu Nike and Polo Tees like pasar malam  nothing caught my eye cos pretty much off season designs/styles... good thing is dem cheap lar... buy to wear at home also can
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kenji1903
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Oct 14 2013, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:10 AM) Yes agreed. Plus the cooker is just a small induction cooker. The washer & drier given is a smaller unit. The furnished units are really not worth it. Paying extra 80-100K for this furnishing plus need to add in loan interest fees is really not worth. Ppl who have not done renovation will have limited knowledge on furnishings. 3 years ago when I did the freno of my 3 bedroom condo in TTDI, I spent RM36K for the fit-out and 30K for the wet works. My fit out consisted of hard wood beds and branded mattresses in 3 rooms, sofa set, hood,hob,oven, Diamond water purification system, curtains, 6 seater hard wood dining table, Philips 42" TV, Toshiba fridge, 12kg washing machine & drier, TV table, 2 Alpha ceiling fans, 2 Alpha water heaters, kitchen & toilet fittings, bed sheets & comforters, pillows, 1 new 2HP inverter aircon and new double lock set for main door. agree... you can save quite a lot using your own contractor... even if its the same price... the materials that you use sure better quality...
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zicco
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Oct 14 2013, 10:16 AM
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So for furnished unit ... we are paying 30k-50k extra?
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kenji1903
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Oct 14 2013, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(zicco @ Oct 14 2013, 10:16 AM) So for furnished unit ... we are paying 30k-50k extra? depends on size... the 2 that i was interested in was 624sf (f/f) on 18th floor vs 689sf (bare) on 13th floor... difference is 55k after discount...
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zicco
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Oct 14 2013, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:18 AM) depends on size... the 2 that i was interested in was 624sf (f/f) on 18th floor vs 689sf (bare) on 13th floor... difference is 55k after discount... But have you factor in the difference in size and the level ?
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cybermaster98
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Oct 14 2013, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:18 AM) depends on size... the 2 that i was interested in was 624sf (f/f) on 18th floor vs 689sf (bare) on 13th floor... difference is 55k after discount... I think the 13fl units were generally cheaper because of the number. Normal units, the difference between the f/f and bare units about 80-100k.
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kenji1903
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Oct 14 2013, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(zicco @ Oct 14 2013, 10:28 AM) But have you factor in the difference in size and the level ? QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:33 AM) I think the 13fl units were generally cheaper because of the number. Normal units, the difference between the f/f and bare units about 80-100k. didn't actually compared same level, same facing as i am only interested with the lowest priced bare units... too bad all gone
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cybermaster98
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Oct 14 2013, 10:35 AM
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Also, don't forget that the maintenance fees is RM0.50 psf. A 689sf unit would cost RM 344.50 per month just for maintenance alone.
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kenji1903
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Oct 14 2013, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:35 AM) Also, don't forget that the maintenance fees is RM0.50 psf. A 689sf unit would cost RM 344.50 per month just for maintenance alone. yeah... that's the other thing that's holding me back... if buying a RM700k+ plus the maintenance, kantoi upside down cos rental definitely cannot even get near the installment This post has been edited by kenji1903: Oct 14 2013, 10:38 AM
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SUStikaram
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Oct 14 2013, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 14 2013, 11:12 AM) HK's premium outlet in Tung Chung very the far leh... it's almost Tai Yu Shan there... near Disneyland and Airport  but its very cheap lar... China people go there sapu Nike and Polo Tees like pasar malam  nothing caught my eye cos pretty much off season designs/styles... good thing is dem cheap lar... buy to wear at home also can  The wholesales fashion @ seoul is doing very well leah. it is not premium. but selling young lady clothing. Some more at the edge. gamuda mentioned they now focus at mall business and at long term basis like wct . I hope Robertson mall will be as good as their kota kemuning buz suites/gamuda walk. This post has been edited by tikaram: Oct 14 2013, 12:07 PM
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SUStikaram
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Oct 14 2013, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 14 2013, 11:35 AM) Also, don't forget that the maintenance fees is RM0.50 psf. A 689sf unit would cost RM 344.50 per month just for maintenance alone. Rm0.5 with so many facilities g level level 6 .7. 42 .45 is expensive meah ?
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Glcotan
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Oct 14 2013, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 14 2013, 12:06 PM) The wholesales fashion @ seoul is doing very well leah. it is not premium. but selling young lady clothing. Some more at the edge. gamuda mentioned they now focus at mall business and at long term basis like wct . I hope Robertson mall will be as good as their kota kemuning buz suites/gamuda walk. what do you mean as good as gamuda walk? this one still under con right?
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rongfu
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Oct 14 2013, 12:57 PM
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The Robertson got one row 3 storey Shoplot (facing the Plaza Rakyat) Will selling RM3,000.00 psft, who interest to buy?
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cybermaster98
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Oct 14 2013, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 14 2013, 12:09 PM) Rm0.5 with so many facilities
g level level 6 .7. 42 .45
is expensive meah ? From an investor's point of view, regardless whether its expensive or not, the rental returns must be able to cover the maintenance cost and the monthly loan repayment. If the unit value is RM 720K, BLR-2.4% for 30 years, your monthly repayment becomes RM 3168 per month. Add on RM345 for maintenance and ure looking at a total commitment of RM 3513. Can we get RM 3,500 for a level 25 1 bedroom unit without a good view? I don't know.
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Glcotan
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Oct 14 2013, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 14 2013, 01:12 PM) From an investor's point of view, regardless whether its expensive or not, the rental returns must be able to cover the maintenance cost and the monthly loan repayment. If the unit value is RM 720K, BLR-2.4% for 30 years, your monthly repayment becomes RM 3168 per month. Add on RM345 for maintenance and ure looking at a total commitment of RM 3513. Can we get RM 3,500 for a level 25 1 bedroom unit without a good view? I don't know. This is one 70% ltv?
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ecin
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Oct 14 2013, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 14 2013, 12:06 PM) The wholesales fashion @ seoul is doing very well leah. it is not premium. but selling young lady clothing. Some more at the edge. gamuda mentioned they now focus at mall business and at long term basis like wct . I hope Robertson mall will be as good as their kota kemuning buz suites/gamuda walk. imho, their living style is different, they enjoying very much Pasar Malam style cum Street Malls area. e.g. Dongdaemun Added on QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:12 AM) HK's premium outlet in Tung Chung very the far leh... it's almost Tai Yu Shan there... near Disneyland and Airport  but its very cheap lar... China people go there sapu Nike and Polo Tees like pasar malam  nothing caught my eye cos pretty much off season designs/styles... good thing is dem cheap lar... buy to wear at home also can  yeah, this kind it should be more suitable for Malaysian, and if Gamuda going to do it please do it bigger than that, or else may not be able to attract crowd
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puchongite
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Oct 14 2013, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 14 2013, 01:12 PM) From an investor's point of view, regardless whether its expensive or not, the rental returns must be able to cover the maintenance cost and the monthly loan repayment. If the unit value is RM 720K, BLR-2.4% for 30 years, your monthly repayment becomes RM 3168 per month. Add on RM345 for maintenance and ure looking at a total commitment of RM 3513. Can we get RM 3,500 for a level 25 1 bedroom unit without a good view? I don't know. The best reference will be swiss garden residence. Seems the going rate is about 3k - assuming that's a good view unit. I think it still looks highly probable to rent it at RM3,500 after 4 year even without a good view. That's just my guess anyway.
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KaFai
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Oct 14 2013, 01:40 PM
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Hi all sifus, I'm rather new in property investment & would like to invest in this robertchai bcoz the location seems good. Is there rental demand for such small service apartments at Bukit Bintang area & will it be hard to sell such apartments as it is not suitable for family with kids? Please help bcoz I'm not from KL.
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puchongite
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Oct 14 2013, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(KaFai @ Oct 14 2013, 01:40 PM) Hi all sifus, I'm rather new in property investment & would like to invest in this robertchai bcoz the location seems good. Is there rental demand for such small service apartments at Bukit Bintang area & will it be hard to sell such apartments as it is not suitable for family with kids? Please help bcoz I'm not from KL. Survey swiss garden residences, that's a good reference.
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cybermaster98
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Oct 14 2013, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(Glcotan @ Oct 14 2013, 01:22 PM) This is one 70% ltv? Yes same unit but ive taken 90% loan as comparison.
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