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post Apr 21 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 21 2012, 03:58 AM)
You try lower your temperature to 24'C, mine last time at 25'c , none of my CRS berried as well and those CRS who was brought berried and giving birth, the CRS shrimplets died after 3 days.
Fire yellow i like, can pm me the breeder you get it from, outside price selling more then normal crs.
Sunkist shrimps..ummm it is like orange or diiferent? , google result showing sunkist like an orange shrimps, you mind take a picture of
your sunkist shrimps and post here for a look?


Added on April 21, 2012, 4:04 am

Have some truth in it cos CO2 will lower water PH, sensitive shrimps like CRS can't tolerate PH swing especially your tank is small and not enough
PH buffer.
That why i remove my CO2 system and convert to shrimps tank.
Oh, remove SAE if have one in your shrimps tank , those sucker is shrimps killer especially when your shrimps just molt. Otto is safe though.
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I will try to lower it to 24. Hopefully they can start berring soon. The breeding season stopped for a month now.
The fire yellows i got from singpore, im nt sure who is selling here in KL. I am looking for them too, and some chocolate shrimps too. Hehe
I got them from sg at about rm14-18.
Ok i will try to post some pics of the sunkist if i can shoot some clear pics. haha
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post Apr 22 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(desmond @ Apr 22 2012, 02:10 PM)
yea which on-line site u buy from? i also searching but much of the seller stop selling now.
is it not the breeding season now?
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What shrimps are you looking for?
sang gemok
post Apr 24 2012, 04:21 PM

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where can i get fire red shrimp? cheap2 one lor. any breeder?hehehe.
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:42 PM

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you guys using any floating plants in your shrimps tank?
currently got some dwarf water lettuce and trapa natans in there, hope
to reduce/clear up excess nitrate.
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post Apr 24 2012, 07:56 PM

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my shrimps eat those water lettuce, now they got holes in them and starts to rot.. doh.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 24 2012, 07:56 PM)
my shrimps eat those water lettuce, now they got holes in them and starts to rot..  doh.gif
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new breed of shrimps you have there, or it is eater by caterpillar.
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post Apr 25 2012, 07:19 AM

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no catterpillar la haha
first it was in my turtle container, they eat those roots, plants starts to die.
transfer the water lattuce into my shrimp tank, they starts to rejuvenate, but later starts to rot and die bcoz they got eaten from underwater lol..

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post Apr 25 2012, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 25 2012, 03:02 AM)
new breed of shrimps you have there, or it is eater by caterpillar.
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Bro, you don't want to let me have some of your fire red shrimp kah?

i pay some lor.hehehe. want to try some shrimps that breed by you.hihihi.

can kah? brows.gif

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post Apr 25 2012, 12:40 PM

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arrow shrimps are redder than mine hehe
mine got mix grades hehe since i buy langsam~

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post Apr 25 2012, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Apr 25 2012, 09:49 AM)
Bro, you don't want to let me have some of your fire red shrimp kah?

i pay some lor.hehehe. want to try some shrimps that breed by you.hihihi.

can kah?  brows.gif
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i haven't sorted out my shrimp, have fire & cherry mixed. Try to allocate them to different tank but my new tank not yet finish cycled, hopefully
can cycled in one weeks.
How many you want to buy? 10 or 20 tails ? biggrin.gif market price a tail is RM6 to RM10. of course mine cheaper then that.
If i sell my one is like 1cm to 1.5cm big only, smaller then the one in LFS, but frankly speaking, juvenile shrimp better cos they more easy to adapt to
new environment and last longer since rcs only have a life span of the most 2yrs.

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post Apr 25 2012, 02:00 PM

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arrow, you got low grade ones?

btw, yesterday it seems i found 6 baby shrimps inside my internal filter while i was cleaning it since it becomes soo clogged. last 2 weeks i put a clump of eggs taken from a dead shrimp inside the cannister to try on artificial hatching method. do you think those babies come from those egg clumps i put in it?

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post Apr 25 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 25 2012, 01:52 PM)
i haven't sorted out my shrimp, have fire & cherry mixed. Try to allocate them to different tank but my new tank not yet finish cycled, hopefully
can cycled in one weeks.
How many you want to buy? 10 or 20 tails ?  biggrin.gif market price a tail is RM6 to RM10. of course mine cheaper then that.
If i sell my one is like 1cm to 1.5cm big only, smaller then the one in LFS, but frankly speaking, juvenile shrimp better cos they more easy to adapt to
new environment and last longer since rcs only have a life span of the most 2yrs.
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10pcs kot. hehehe. if you need a help on sorting, i can help.don't worry, im good in sorting fire.hehehe. but don't shock if you can't find all the fire.coz i sort the fire in my pocket LOL.hehehe. juz kidding.

for the time being, i still on my way to setup my shrimp tank.but have no idea what lighting to use and got some difficulties on setup a tank since don't know what scape and plant to use. i heading for lowtech shrimp tank.

can you help a bit on giving ideas for 1x1x1feet tank please...huhu. i find cubic is interesting and spacious for the shrimps to scavenge.huhu.

i have not much ideas on setuping shrimp tank since this is my first time.huuu. sad.gif
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 25 2012, 02:00 PM)
arrow, you got low grade ones?

btw, yesterday it seems i found 6 baby shrimps inside my internal filter while i was cleaning it since it becomes soo clogged. last 2 weeks i put a clump of eggs taken from a dead shrimp inside the cannister to try on artificial hatching method. do you think those babies come from those egg clumps i put in it?

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think it is possible , refer to the below link , others did it too but in a container.
http://www.planetinverts.com/Artifically%2...ing%20Eggs.html

unless your filter intake have gap for shrimplets to be suck into the filters , i think those shrimplets are from the eggs you deposit.
ya . 2 weeks is like the period for the eggs to hatch. Congratulations of having some canister born baby.
RCS really tough shrimps, if anyone having trouble keeping them alive it is bcos they did somethings really wrong in the tank setup.

Low grade fire, think got some , that will be down grade to cherry range.

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post Apr 25 2012, 05:04 PM

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Help me! My shrimps n shrimplets keep dying slowly.. cry.gif
they are crs, cbs n fire red..
already happen almost a week..
firstly shrimps will jumping around for hours and then will turn backside..
after a few hours then they will stop moving and die..
already transfered them from old tank but still happen..
now only 12 shrimps left out of 40++.. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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post Apr 25 2012, 06:26 PM

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temp? anything new you put in there?
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post Apr 25 2012, 06:40 PM

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temp just as bfore..nothing new..
berried CBS also died, i tried to hatch them artificially..
even after change to other aquarium, the same problem still happen..
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QUOTE(darthsyaz @ Apr 25 2012, 05:04 PM)
Help me! My shrimps n shrimplets keep dying slowly..  cry.gif
they are crs, cbs n fire red..
already happen almost a week..
firstly shrimps will jumping around for hours and then will turn backside..
after a few hours then they will stop moving and die..
already transfered them from old tank but still happen..
now only 12 shrimps left out of 40++..  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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It is a shrimps tank or planted tank or it is convert from planted to shrimps tank?
smell like water problem , suspect organic waste build up or did anyone spray insecticide near your tank or (DBKL spraying pesticide in your taman etc)
Jumping around is like 'kena' poisoning, transfer to another tank is of no use if they already got poisoned , they will continue to died.
Like my case when a new plant i brought release pesticide. Transferred shrimps still continue to died slowly for almost a week.

Or anythings new you feed them recently, and ask your family members did anyone ever use insecticide near or putting hand/things in your tank.
Don't dip your hand in the tank if you just wash your hand with soap.

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post Apr 25 2012, 09:34 PM

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I think organic waste build or hand poison...
is there any way to stop them from dying or cure the poisoning?
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post Apr 26 2012, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(darthsyaz @ Apr 25 2012, 09:34 PM)
I think organic waste build or hand poison...
is there any way to stop them from dying or cure the poisoning?
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unfortunately i didn't find a way to cure it other then seeing them died one by one, but you can put in Active carbon to absorb pesticide and
seachem purigen to clear up organic waste, a vacuum of the soil/gravel is recommend if organic waste build-up is suspected.
You can use organic based soap to clean your hand or wash/rinse your hand thoroughly before handling the tank.

I have been to this pesticide and organic waste problem before as my tank is actually a planted tank converted to shrimps tank,
Those plant debris and waste accumulated at soil is slowly killing my shrimps , each day will have like one to two died until i realize how
dirty my substrate are although water is crystal clear. I did a major vacuuming of the ADA soil , do a 70% water change, fill up tank and put in
Purigen, change my feeding pattern and food. (no longer feeding food that unstable and easy polluting the tank.)

For shrimps tank you need to maintain high level of beneficial bacteria not only in filter but on anywhere in the tank , those bacteria will help
decompose waste, build-up bio-film(food) etc, you have to choose some food & supplement that will provide those bacteria or help decompose of
waste beside the normal shrimps food. Borneowild Bebi/mosura bio-plus is not only shrimp & shrimplets food but also as waste decompose helper, Mosura Old Sea Mud will also help in absorbing toxic and cleanup waste.
My routine every morning is to dose old sea mud & a little bit of bebi or bio-plus to the tank, at night will feed some small amount of shrimps pellet plus bebi/bio-plus. occasionally boiled organic spinach etc. ( i usually won't buy/feed those shrimps food that come in small/micro form that will sunk anywhere in the tank as those food will be impossible to retrieve and will pollute the soil unless they can self decompose like bebi/bio-plus)
Mineral and breeding aid and other conditional will be added occasionally. Every 2 weeks or more i will throw in a ADA bacter ball for them to feed on.


Added on April 26, 2012, 3:08 am
QUOTE(sang gemok @ Apr 25 2012, 02:14 PM)
10pcs kot. hehehe. if you need a help on sorting, i can help.don't worry, im good in sorting fire.hehehe. but don't shock if you can't find all the fire.coz i sort the fire in my pocket LOL.hehehe. juz kidding.

for the time being, i still on my way to setup my shrimp tank.but have no idea what lighting to use and got some difficulties on setup a tank since don't know what scape and plant to use. i heading for lowtech shrimp tank.

can you help a bit on giving ideas for 1x1x1feet tank please...huhu. i find cubic is interesting and spacious for the shrimps to scavenge.huhu.

i have not much ideas on setuping shrimp tank since this is my first time.huuu.  sad.gif
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cubic 1 feet tank will be 27L water capacity, not too bad. Lighting 11w to 15w is more then enough , plants can be just moss or with ferns, i don't recommend Anubias, for me i use only moss, moss got lot of variety and appearance, search for it in google. Moss you need to tight to wood or rock, you can get some cheap wood from nilufar pets & aqua shop in tesco jln kuchai lama, but for any new wood, treat it with boiling water and rinse and let it sit in a bucket to leech out tannie for a few days before use.
For gravel , you can use ADA new amazonia or just plain holland/river sand will do, but the latter won't have ph buffering capabilities.
Further read on setting up shrimps tank -> http://www.planetinverts.com/Invert%20Tank%20Setup.html

You will need a filter , a HOB(hang on back) filters , canister , sponge filters, combinations of them is possible, limit is your budget and tank size.
Air pump is a must , shrimps just love oxygen rich environment, (sponge filters need a air pump to function).

Then you need to cycle your tank, refer here for guide -> http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/freshwa...um-cycle-38617/

Example :
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Saw the tank on the left , that tank is almost the same size of one you want, just 5cm taller, 1feet(L) x 35cm(H) x 1feet(w),
That is EBI Fluval shrimp tank, come with most items , internal filter, lighting , shrimps soil , net , shrimps food , water conditioner.
If you don't mind fork out rm300++ for it , it almost a complete set for beginner.



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post Apr 26 2012, 04:46 AM

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awesome. thanks bro. will start ASAP. smile.gif


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