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post May 26 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(fishman @ May 26 2012, 05:08 PM)
Managed to catch it and dumped it into my other tank (with fish) as snack.
Didn't introduce anything new to the shrimp tank, and only saw it today. Where do they come from?
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They normally come from hidden in plants , livestock or in the water(packing bag) that you brought either in eggs or junior worm format.
It would not appear out of nowhere in your tank, there must be a host that bring them in.
FYI, planaria head is triangle. -> http://www.google.com.my/search?q=planaria...iw=1280&bih=852

i started selling small portion of various shrimp foods/supplement, see if you interested.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2362039&hl=

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post May 28 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(fishman @ May 28 2012, 03:07 PM)
Hi, I am feeding my RCS Hikari Crab Cuisine & Algae Wafer. I read that they do eat normal fish pellets as well, but I guess it has to be the sinking type. I tried giving them boiled baby carrots (sliced thin) but they didn't seem to be interested.

On another note, my shrimp tank's NO2 reading went from 0ppm to 0.25ppm lately. Am wondering whether this may be caused by any plants? (I have Java fern, Anubias, windelov and xmas moss). I don't overfeed, so don't think it's from there. Or could it be ammonia spike from my Amazonia soil?
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Try Organic spinach, they love it.
That the risk from using ADA soil in shrimp tank, ammonia spike is normal in fresh ADA soil.
Plant won't leech ammonia unless they rot, they actually taking in ammonia as food.
Did you disturb the soil? like moving plant or stone around?

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post May 28 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(fishman @ May 28 2012, 04:09 PM)
Hmm...maybe a little bit of movement to the soil when I did water change, but not to the level of the soil being stirred up.
Didn't see any rotting plants although some leaves on my Anubias seem to have some light patches of brown. By the way, my xmas moss (tied to a rock) are green and has a bit of vege smell. That's normal right?

I did 50% water change at night for the past 2 days, and got readings pH 6.5-7.0 and NO2 0ppm. Then the next morning, pH5.5-6 and 0.25ppm.
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How the tank , ammonia still be detected? if so take a look at your filter, if your bacteria colony is ok, ammonia should be neutralize by now.
anyway since your PH is low those ammonia detected is not 'free ammonia' which still safe for the time being unless you got some CRS in there.
If your shrimps is not comfortable they will hide under stone, decor or stay at a corner.

A little bit of movement may spark ammonia in ADA soil, this soil have damn lot of ammonia. A breeder that i know also very cautious when using
ADA soil as he experience wiping the whole colony cos of ammonia spark.
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post May 29 2012, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ May 28 2012, 08:52 PM)
got a question, im a bit puzzled.
do green shrimps and RCS can hybrid together?
coz, after massive shrimps massacre done by croaking gouramis(removed them already), i piap piap the moss bushes to see if there are any survivors.
can see a few RCS and a few colony of green shrimps left. the thing is, i also noticed a 3 shrimps with same identical colour, pattern and size, probably from the same parents. but the colour is peach/apricot with a tinge of mild orange. with big yellow stripe colour on top(like yamato back stripe, but more wider like sakura version)

any comment? took a pic, but due to crappy phone, colour is a bit off. will upload them later.

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No, green shrimp & rcs won't interbreed cos they from different family , rcs is neocaridina while green shrimp under caridina.

refer to - http://www.shrimptank.ca/wp-content/upload...87BB3635023051E

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post May 29 2012, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ May 29 2012, 12:33 AM)
nice explanation bro.hoho
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bro, how is your tank , i just got myself a 3ft tank, but too busy to setup... doh.gif

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post May 31 2012, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ May 29 2012, 04:58 PM)
OK. But been attacked by hair algae.huhu. think that my ammonia cycle has completed.huhu.

wow. 3ft crystal clear hah? can i help you on setuping the tank. please3.hehehe

i plan to meet you on this weekend lor bro. to take some of your children in your tank.hehehe.

if you r available, so, we can meet.hihi. please let me know.
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this sat working, haven't got all the necessary items, so no go for setup at the moments.
let you know if this sunday can or not , any nice LFS in puchong ? never been to any LFS in that area!! laugh.gif


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QUOTE(cute_miao @ May 30 2012, 09:38 PM)
MAy i knw, what vegetable shrimps eat? Those in pasar, do i need to rendam in air to clean the pesticides?

please advise all shifu~!
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No pasar veggie , only use pure organic veg. i recommend spinach, get it from organic shop, clean it then boil for 5min, drain out water
then put into a plastic container and store in the fridge for 24hrs, feed them one/half leaf a day(depend livestock qty).


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QUOTE(lunna06 @ May 30 2012, 09:32 PM)
Hihi, im new in breeding shrimp just started recently, kbut keep seeing all my shrimps die 1 by 1 daily haihz.

Im im leaving my aquarium in my living room at ground floor do i ned a chilling fan, as i doesnt really test my ph or wadever.
Is it fine for me to use filter water from my tap , or do i ned any thing extra.
Btw im breeding shrimp with fish like neon tetra and smaller tropic fish, im juz scared they are aggressive or is it juz not suitable to the tempreture and PH .
HELP me SIFU's what should i do.

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Hey! no jumping step in shrimps keeping, you start with keeping shrimps first, don't think about breeding when you can't keep them alive.
Tell us more about your tank? size ? cycled ? how long the tank be setup? what substract you use if any? type of filter & media used? aeration provided?
water temperature ?
But if you don't understand what is mean by tank cycled pls read the link below and cycle your tank first.
http://fins.actwin.com/mirror/begin-cycling.html
Get the API master test kit(for FRESHWATER) (cost around rm100++), you need it to monitor your tank cycling process.

You want fish then forget about breeding shrimps, fish food is alot cheaper then feeding them shrimplets.
Provide us those info then we talk.

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post Jun 1 2012, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ May 29 2012, 01:27 PM)
Hi sifus,

Should shrimp be safe in crypt tank?? Googled and found that crypt may cause shrimp masscare. Is it true??
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can't be 100% sure , but one things you need to beware of crypt is melting, when newly planted they normally melt & rot then grow back, this is the major concern cos it pollute the water which can kill sensitive shrimp like crs unless a good filtration is in place to handle the sudden extra bio-load.
I do have 2 stabilized crypt currently in my 2ft tank with over 200 shrimp & shrimplet, no dead due to this crypt so far.

Imho, i won't introduce crypt to established tank with shrimps esp. crs , the melting issue is hard to swallow.

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post Jun 1 2012, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Jun 1 2012, 02:54 AM)
sorry for the late upload, been too busy lately suddenly  laugh.gif
weird shrimps that ive been asking about, 2 of them already died(1 whitish, 1 orange a bit with stripe colour), one MIA


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Look like fire orange shrimp to me.
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post Jun 1 2012, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Jun 1 2012, 03:04 AM)
err, how do i get them? they mutated?
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yes & no , all those fancy color are due to mutation , but i don't think your grow-up from shrimplets right?
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post Jun 2 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Hantu641 @ Jun 2 2012, 12:15 PM)
Greetings guys,
im newbie and relly total noob..and im going to set up a shrimp tank...
need lots of help and advice for many things..so sorry for the wrong words..
my question is how small the tank can be..cos the room spot that im going to put the tank is too narrow..the max tank size i think can put there is 1 feet wide, 2-3 feet long, 1.5 height..
second question is that my working place is at genting highlands and the altitude and cold weather..can these shrimp tahan these kind of cold? the water temp can get almost 5 celcius at cold season..2 years ago my friend guppy died after 5 days of rain and wind and the room temp is about reach 10 celcius..
do i need a water heater or what they called that..the-water-maintain-temp-device called?
enough question for now..lol
thanks and cheerss..
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the max tank size that match your space is 3ft tank at 90cm(L) x 45cm(w) x 45cm(h). Since you are noob wink.gif i suggest a
2ft tank to start with,but the choice is yours. Temp can get 5'C then a heater is needed else you can some shrimps Sashimi every night.

It is a blessing for you to have such cold weather (no chiller ever needed , just need a heater)

Basic/essential things you need:

Tank
Soil(Substrate) - just sand or any shrimp soil(recommended) / ADA soil.
Air pump
Canister filter(recommended) or basic Hang on back filter
Aquarium Light set
Heater
Shrimps food/water conditioner

You know about tank cycling ?
if no, then read here before you start buying shrimps
http://www.oscarfishlover.com/helpful-arti...ing-an-aquarium
http://fins.actwin.com/mirror/begin-cycling.html

A cycled tank is required before shrimp/fish can be introduce into new tank.

What is your projected budget ?
Note: keeping shrimps is not as simple as keeping guppies/fish.

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post Jun 2 2012, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(Hantu641 @ Jun 2 2012, 06:42 PM)
My budget around RM 200 to 300 only..not that big..but its can stretch a bit until RM 400 and add on after that..as i think this going to be long lasting commitment..XD
just now just chit chat with some friends that they have friend that can make custom made tank and with cheap price too..but not those that fancy tank..just normal 1.. icon_rolleyes.gif
heater can get free as someone gonna donate for me..also with filter..but all are cheapo things only..and my friend never tried with shrimp, so they dun know much..
already read the articles, and basically im gonna need to set-up guppy tank 1st before add the shrimp...
need to watch the water for ph and ammonia and nitrate..and temp also..since i dun wat to eat colorful prawn for my dinner every night..sweat.gif
1 more question, do i need Co2 for shrimp?? i know it not for shrimp but im going to put some moss inside, do its really important?

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Luqee is right, no Co2 is required, it cost you >rm200 to own a decent one anyway just for the Co2 system.
since you have heater and filters then you only need to get the soil, light, anything you have in mind?
PH the soil can have buffer , but it depend on your tap water as well , but worse to worse there is still RO water and maybe some ice cool mountain water from genting hill.
In order to watch PH , ammonia , nitrite & nitrate , you need test kit. API master test kit for freshwater is good to srat with but cost you around RM100++ but it is cheaper then buy individual test kit and can last very long.

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post Jun 3 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jun 3 2012, 09:05 PM)
this is my tank journal.hehehe

will update pic of my babies inside.heheh
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look like you have a cave built for them. laugh.gif
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post Jun 4 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(weijie @ Jun 4 2012, 10:24 AM)
survey:
anyone tested benibachi shrimps food yet?
so far, we only got BW shrimp food around.
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we have mosura , ADA , azoo & genchem too, just that ppl only selling benibachi supplement not the food here, unless you get it direct from singapore or thailand.


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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jun 3 2012, 09:05 PM)
this is my tank journal.hehehe

will update pic of my babies inside.heheh
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where is the update? drool.gif

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post Jun 5 2012, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(fishman @ Jun 5 2012, 01:09 AM)
After adding new coral stones to my filter, managed to get constant pH6.5-7.0 now. NO2 also back to 0ppm. Temp is around 27-29 C with cooling fan. Still no signs of berried shrimps.  cry.gif  Could it be my tank is not romantic enough???

Anyway noticed some white worms. Definitely not planaria as these are really very fine. You guys have the same? How to get rid of them? I added 4 Hengel's rasbora in the hope of them eating these worms. 2 actually committed suicide by jumping out of the tank. Anyhow. did notice less visible worms now, or is that subconscious?
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so fast you want to be grandfather, they only mate when the female molt, but do you see any eggs in the ovaries near their head, those are ready female.
you can speed/help them but using mosura gravidas or bw vigor as breeding aid.
those white worm are safe, I have tons of them. you can vaccum the gravel to get rid majority of them but they still
pervail.


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post Jun 5 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Malformed @ Jun 5 2012, 10:46 AM)
arrow, "those white worm" refers to what kind of worm, how big is it that you are talking about?
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nematodes, all tank have them, different is you see them alot or few. Unless yours is a bare tank with no water.
The biggest i saw in my tank is around 2cm-2.5cm long. The fun part is you can't kill them with no-planaria powder.
Learn to live with them or more hardworking in cleaning up tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nematode
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post Jun 5 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(fishman @ Jun 5 2012, 01:18 PM)
When I first got the shrimps, they were more transparent, so can easily see some of them have this yellow/green stuff at their "saddle".
Then they molted a lot and became redder & less transparent, so can't see those stuff on their "saddle" anymore.

Are you guys keeping fish with your shrimps? If yes, what fish?
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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jun 5 2012, 10:08 AM)
let's disscuss something here.hehehe.i got shrimp fever la now.huhu.can anybody give me some aid?heehehe
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Refer to this picture for female with ready eggs, when she molt and a capable male is available, you will have a berried female in no time.
user posted image

NO, no fish for me. errr.. only 5 otto's in my main shrimp tank, but they look like mini vacuum rather then fish, other shrimps tank no fish at all. except 2 nano tank that keep my wife pet guppies/swordtails. thumbup.gif

Oh..ya .. fishman learn fast, always forgot the name is "saddle" where they store the eggs b4 be fertilized.

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post Jun 5 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Hantu641 @ Jun 2 2012, 07:51 PM)
actually, im looking for "D" type of tanks dun see much the curve one..my friend can get the the semi "D" tank, not the really curve 1 but between the glass got rubber bracers..
not my type, but if cheap, ill take it as training tank.. tongue.gif
and where can get "your suggestion" tank..do u have the picture?


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the Genting mountain water rite? every time i go down, i saw many people take the water..especially taxi...
is the water can be great source of my fish tank??
i never knew it was a good water..maybe i ll take some and make a test of it..err the test kit about RM 100?? hmm.gif  i thought it was around rm 50..
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How is your guppies cum shrimps tank project, still on going? show us some photo of your tank if got one.
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post Jun 5 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Malformed @ Jun 5 2012, 04:37 PM)
Please recommend a shrimp for 28-29 temperature smile.gif will be placed in a 1ft tank with a mini lobster, snail and fishes.
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The only shrimp dare to live in that tank is Glass shrimp aka feeder shrimps, minimum RM1 per cup. can stand temp 30-31'c , mini lobster -> np we are expendable & disposable.
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post Jun 5 2012, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(fishman @ Jun 5 2012, 01:18 PM)
When I first got the shrimps, they were more transparent, so can easily see some of them have this yellow/green stuff at their "saddle".
Then they molted a lot and became redder & less transparent, so can't see those stuff on their "saddle" anymore.

Are you guys keeping fish with your shrimps? If yes, what fish?
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post some latest picture of your baby.. you have like 30++ , must be like red cherry popping in your sea of marimo.
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post Jun 5 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(lunna06 @ Jun 5 2012, 11:06 PM)
Hi,

lets say i measure my ph today it is 6.5 - 7.0 then the next day is 6.0 , whats does it means?
Do i have to measure daily?? to get the correct PH

Or measuring once will do the job
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more info ,
1) what soil you using?
2) KH reading?

your above case look like ph swing normally due to low KH.

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