Do cops have jurisdiction over armed forces personnel? I thought they will be handed over to the MP's?

Guys, is it true that Vietnam ordered PAK FA?

Pak Fa is not yet on the market, and if it is true then India will be the first!
even The Russian are procuring SU-35 to its fleet and not Pak Fa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55TkB8YQIG0

guys, i need info about which models of aircraft have the ability of thrust vectoring.

as I aware, F-35 and SU-37 only. Maybe SU-35 got it.(please note that this is only that i know).

how about F-22, i heard that this jet's thrust vectoring is fail.

How about South Korea? I heard Sukhoi offered them for their next generation fighter.

SU-35BM do have it.
MIG-35
our Su-30MKM and India SU-30MKI

yes Raptor do have TV!

other then that will be experimental or research plane

Don't think so, like I said India will be the first as they do have certain amount of investment IINM
South Korea? IMHO they are more to the US block that Ruskies!

This post has been edited by atreyuangel: Dec 28 2011, 01:20 AM

I never understood the need for stealth fighters. It would only make sense if you have a "strike first" military doctrine. If you don't, the stealth fighter squadrons will surely be a priority target when a hostile nation declares war. Which means most likely you would lose your fighters in the first day of conflict.

Instead of spending huge amount of money on stealth fighters, why not use it to improve the air defense capability instead? It's cheaper and it makes more sense if you are going for a defense only doctrine.

Stealth are very useful in air 2 air battle especially BVR.
In future is going to be who detect who 1st. "Perhaps these would leads to radar technology race"
if you can't see me you are as good as dead.

to me strike first doctrine were mostly use for stealth bomber. like the f117 and b2.

Yeah, maybe under the perfect conditions. Nothing in war is ever perfect. Most of the time you will be flying over a SAM site, knowingly or not. Kinda hard to shoot down a bogey, BVR or not, when your RWR is indicating SAM launch.

The Serbs manage to shoot down an F-117 during the Kosovo war. They were not even using a specific anti-stealth technology to do it. It was basically a combination of good intel, knowledge of equipment at hand and a barrage of SAMs with proximity fuse.

That was some time ago. I'm pretty sure there are more advanced systems to date.

Would you rather have a squadron of stealth fighters when at the same price, gets you maybe 2 full squadrons of generation 4+ aircraft with change for a decent air defense system?

I've always said it to my friends that always admire stealth technology!

"detection is always one radar away"

lol...
It depend on how you are going utilize those fighter. the whole war is not just about stealth fighter but a collective of defensive forces and offensive forces.

TBH serb shoot down down only 1 F-117 dat is... It just proof of concept dat they are able to shoot down 1.
the current stealth fighter have overcome most of the weakness in the 1st generation stealth fighter. which is slow, lack of A2A capabilities and unable to defend themselves if they were being lock on or engage in dog fights.

between there is no anti stealth technology.
it just an advancement in radar technology.

there is a reason Y there is a hype all over the AESA radar technology and stealth technology.
both however can't guarantees 100% effectiveness against each others.
stealth technology tries to reduce the detection range and effectiveness of opponent radar and newer radar technology tries to improve the detection range against the low RCS fighter.
heck even 4th generation fighter improve their RCS.

too shoot down a bogey is not hard. imo, how many times you can use flairs and decoy??
btw in the current times offensive force would disable all SAM site 1st. and having total control in the airspace.
try read some Operation Odyssey Dawn

lolz...
radar technology race is on.
AESA radar FTW..

Even passive radar can read the presence of stealth, I'm thinking in 10 years or so!

Is it true that a NS serviceman died in pulau tekong, years ago? My cousin told me that the island is haunted..

F-INSAS Rifle Design Clears Audit, To Go Into Production From Jan 2012



Published December 28, 2011







The defence ministry may no longer have to search for an advanced rifle to arm the Indian infantry soldier of the future under the F-Insas project. Rifle Factory Ishapore (RFI) claims to have come up with an advanced variant of the existing 5.56 mm Insas rifle that will go into production from January, 2012. “ The rifle is an extremely modern weapon that will meet with the requirements of the future infantryman.

Our designs have already cleared the audit and production is expected to start from January, ” a source said.
RFI has already manufactured over a million Insas rifles for distribution among security personnel in India. The Insas was first introduced before the Kargil war and several variants have since been developed. When the Future Infantry Soldier as System (F-Insas) project was launched by the defence ministry, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) got together to develop weapons for the soldier of the future.

Under the F-Insas project, the infantryman will be kitted with state-of-theart equipment including weapons, protective gear and communications systems. The soldier’s uniform would include bullet-proof clothing and the visor on his helmet would display maps and gunsights. The future soldiers would also carry palmtops and other advanced communications gear.

Among the weapons for the F-Insas project is a multi-calibre carbine for Close Quarter Battle (CQB) and a rifle. OFB has already developed the Milap multi-calibre carbine and handed it over to the Army for field trials. The carbine is modular in structure and can fire 5.56 mm, 7.62 mm and also 6.8 mm rounds. It also has an under belly grenade launcher for air-burst grenades. The OFB believes that this weapon that is expected to cost nearly . 50,000 apiece will solve the Army’s problems for days to come.

For the rifle, the defence ministry is on the lookout for something on the lines of the Israeli Tavor. In fact, nearly 5,000 Tavors have already been imported for use by the Special Forces. RFI sources say that the F-Insas developed by them at Ishapore would meet the ministry’s requirements and there would be no need to go in for further imports.

The efforts that have gone in for this project has bagged S K Rath of RFI the best general manager award from OFB. Although details were not available, sources revealed that the new rifle will be modular and have several advanced components. It may even have a computer chip inside.
“ The first phase of the F-Insas programme should be completed by 2012. We believe that the rifle developed by RFI will meet the requirements of the Army, ” an official said.



Sources : http://idrw.org/

and we already have 3 sets of Vera-E radars..

confirm ke? i thought it was a rumour?

Passive of'coz can detect the stealth but stealth futures dat apply on the aircraft reduce the range of detection of the radar.

stealth technology always being misunderstood. like stealth mean cannot detect. in realities it only evade radar frequency aje
let say:
A radar with a range of 200km effective range for normal fighter.
however his effective range reduce to 50km for detecting a stealth bomber or stealth fighter.
The whole things become even more complex when differ radar bands reacts differently on the stealth method use on stealth fighter. "I'm not quite sure about the technical parts"

yup, but still not sure how effective were it against the next generation stealth fighter like the PAKFA, F-35, B-2 and china stealth fighter.
however 1 things for sure its will be quite effective against the F-15 silent eagle which optimize for xband radar.

confirm..

This post has been edited by yinchet: Dec 29 2011, 03:33 PM

hehe I read somewhere that the raptor radar signature is just as small as bee!

so to radar guy, if you see a bee that moving in the speed of 1 mach and more be alert