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heavyduty
post Dec 19 2011, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Dec 19 2011, 10:39 AM)
no piccie but it's in CNN vid.

that thing looks like there's a mine sensor at the front and at the top mounted with a MG.


Added on December 19, 2011, 10:40 am:Looks like a British Mastiff but....
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looks like a JERRV BAE caiman

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post Dec 19 2011, 07:11 PM

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Looks like maybe LIMA 2015 then we will get to see the A400M.

QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 19 2011, 06:49 PM)
EC725 will be there for sure.
not sure about A400M; hope there will be no issue occurs and proceed according to the scheduled.
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:08 PM

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so they typhoon is now grounded!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...s-fix-them.html
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:29 PM

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May I know what's the difference between Su-30MKI and Su-30MKM? Which one is better?
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(WanMB @ Dec 19 2011, 11:29 PM)
May I know what's the difference between Su-30MKI and Su-30MKM? Which one is better?
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Though both the fighters are Russian origin they have significant third party inputs......let put what i know......

To customer to the selection were proposed both base versions Su-30MK - "Indian", gathered in Irkutsk, and "Chinese", made in Komsomol'sk-on- Amur. But Malaysian armed forces the special version of aircraft on the basis of Indian version. So to the light appeared new version Su-30 with the index "modernized, commercial, Malaysian" ie MKM.

MKM:

TVC engine & digital system of the flight control unchanged
It uses a complete French avionics suite with some Russian inputs
Its HUD & HMS is Russian
The cockpit display systems are French
Display generator and radar processors are Indian
It have French navigation systems
Its radar is Bars PESA powered by Indian computers and software
Its uses a Russian jammer pod, IRST & RWR
French LDP
No HDAF pod



MKI:

Same TVC and digital FCS
It uses complete Israeli and Indian avionics suite
Its HUD is Israeli, HMS is Russian
The cockpit display systems are French
Datalink system Indian
All the computers and software onboard are Indian
Bars PESA powered by Indian RC
It uses Israeli jammer pod, IRST & Indian RWR
It has Indian HADF
Its uses French Navigation systems
It has South African aircraft health monitoring system same as EF Typhoon



India had the option to choose between Israeli, French and Russian systems but Malaysia only can choose from French & Russian systems only. They lack of better Israeli technologies in some areas like AVIONICS, jammer pod, IRST, HUD etc. But French also good but not as Israelis they are the best after USA in this aricraft avionics areas.

Thats why when India signed for Mirage-2000 upgrade deal with Frence, for the first time French will integrate a foreign electronics say Isareli+Indian avionics and jammer pods in the new Mirage with French radar, displays, HMS, navigation systems.


I think in Some areas these four countries dominate....

1. Russia: Overall fighter design, engine, weapons
2. Israel: Avionics, HUD, IRST, Jammer pod, LDP etc
3. French: HMS, Navigation systems, Display systems (MFD).
4. India: Computers for radar, avionics, display systems, RWR and software.

Both the fighters have above mentioned similerities.
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Naskah @ Dec 19 2011, 11:31 PM)
Though both the fighters are Russian origin they have significant third party inputs......let put what i know......

To customer to the selection were proposed both base versions Su-30MK - "Indian", gathered in Irkutsk, and "Chinese", made in Komsomol'sk-on- Amur. But Malaysian armed forces the special version of aircraft on the basis of Indian version. So to the light appeared new version Su-30 with the index "modernized, commercial, Malaysian" ie MKM.

MKM:

TVC engine & digital system of the flight control unchanged
It uses a complete French avionics suite with some Russian inputs
Its HUD & HMS is Russian
The cockpit display systems are French
Display generator and radar processors are Indian
It have French navigation systems
Its radar is Bars PESA powered by Indian computers and software
Its uses a Russian jammer pod, IRST & RWR
French LDP
No HDAF pod
MKI:

Same TVC and digital FCS
It uses complete Israeli and Indian avionics suite
Its HUD is Israeli, HMS is Russian
The cockpit display systems are French
Datalink system Indian
All the computers and software onboard are Indian
Bars PESA powered by Indian RC
It uses Israeli jammer pod, IRST & Indian RWR
It has Indian HADF
Its uses French Navigation systems
It has South African aircraft health monitoring system same as EF Typhoon
India had the option to choose between Israeli, French and Russian systems but Malaysia only can choose from French & Russian systems only. They lack of better Israeli technologies in some areas like AVIONICS, jammer pod, IRST, HUD etc. But French also good but not as Israelis they are the best after USA in this aricraft avionics areas.

Thats why when India signed for Mirage-2000 upgrade deal with Frence, for the first time French will integrate a foreign electronics say Isareli+Indian avionics and jammer pods in the new Mirage with French radar, displays, HMS, navigation systems.
I think in Some areas these four countries dominate....

1. Russia: Overall fighter design, engine, weapons
2. Israel: Avionics, HUD, IRST, Jammer pod, LDP etc
3. French: HMS, Navigation systems, Display systems (MFD).
4. India: Computers for radar, avionics, display systems, RWR and software.

Both the fighters have above mentioned similerities.
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Thank you so much for the information. Really appreciate it.
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post Dec 20 2011, 02:57 AM

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16242115

no more gripen i guess...
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post Dec 20 2011, 09:29 AM

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lulz Saab AB and Saab Automobile have been different companies since 2000


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post Dec 20 2011, 09:30 AM

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aih.. boring

today thread very slow sad.gif
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post Dec 20 2011, 09:59 AM

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with the restrictions that we have on Israel, guess we missed out a lot on the good techs
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post Dec 20 2011, 11:45 AM

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Looks like Japanese Air Force getting F-35 to replace their F-4

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post Dec 20 2011, 11:48 AM

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Sketch of Sea Control Ship (1974) by AD Baker III from U.S. Aircraft Carriers: an Illustrated Design History by Norman Friedman.


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This 325-ft SWATH ship was proposed by the David W Taylor Naval Ship Research and Development Center in 1980 to operate short takeoff, vertical landing (STOVL) fighters.


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A proposed conversion of a US Navy Spruance class destroyer to operate Harrier jump-jets.


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Another view of a Spruance conversion, operating a Grumman vertical take off aircraft.


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Another interesting concept was the short-lived Skyhook proposal, to have a crane-equipped ship to operate Harriers using the Skyhook method.


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post Dec 20 2011, 01:20 PM

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Israel tech is overrated anyway.
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post Dec 20 2011, 06:51 PM

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BLue screen of Death, lolol,
no wonder they call it like that, if really happen when flying the jet, death gonna happen.
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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 20 2011, 06:51 PM)
BLue screen of Death, lolol,
no wonder they call it like that, if really happen when flying the jet, death gonna happen.
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got eject seat mah..
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post Dec 20 2011, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 20 2011, 06:52 PM)
got eject seat mah..
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i hope if ejection seat mechanism have a separate circuit or back up circuit if main aircraft computerize failed.
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post Dec 20 2011, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Dec 20 2011, 10:59 AM)
with the restrictions that we have on Israel, guess we missed out a lot on the good techs
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 20 2011, 02:20 PM)
Israel tech is overrated anyway.
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we didn't miss much to begin with

there are many alternatives for Israeli avionics and armament system.France,Italy and South Africa are good starters.even South Korea nowadays
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:21 AM

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perhaps there are another subclass of G-4; the 4+++ generation(or 4.75)

this is existing 4th gen aircraft that implements the aspects of 5th gen aircraft(stealth,TVC,AESA radar,etc)

exp like F-15SE,Typhoon Tranche 3, and the proposed Su-30MKI mk3

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