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atreyuangel
post Apr 27 2012, 06:12 PM

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Varyag!
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post Apr 27 2012, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 27 2012, 06:12 PM)
Varyag!
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instant KO if hit by two heavy weight torpedo like the blackshark.
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post Apr 29 2012, 01:51 AM

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post Apr 29 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 27 2012, 06:15 PM)
instant KO if hit by two heavy weight torpedo like the blackshark.
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How was that so? This work the same to the US carriers?
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post Apr 29 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Apr 29 2012, 03:34 PM)
How was that so? This work the same to the US carriers?
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TSyinchet
post Apr 30 2012, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Apr 29 2012, 03:34 PM)
How was that so? This work the same to the US carriers?
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a torpedo attack is very deadly. far more than antiship missile.
it used the power of water pressure resulted from the torpedo explosion.
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post Apr 30 2012, 12:39 PM

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After watching the battleship movie...I think Malaysia Navy should buy some destroyer ship. Frigate strong enough meh??

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post Apr 30 2012, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(sleep_snore @ Apr 27 2012, 05:50 PM)
i tot Kuznetsov have been already refurbished by PRC?
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Admiral Kutnetsov is with Russian Black Sea Fleet..the one PRC refurbished is Admiral Kutnetsov-class carrier, the Varyag..

QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 30 2012, 12:20 PM)
a torpedo attack is very deadly. far more than antiship missile.
it used the power of water pressure resulted from the torpedo explosion.
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But from what I've learned, its quite difficult to have torpedo to explode directly several feet below the ship..

QUOTE(asd5139 @ Apr 30 2012, 12:39 PM)
After watching the battleship movie...I think Malaysia Navy should buy some destroyer ship. Frigate strong enough meh??
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No need la, too expensive. better have more frigates and corvettes..
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Apr 30 2012, 12:44 PM)
Admiral Kutnetsov is with Russian Black Sea Fleet..the one PRC refurbished is Admiral Kutnetsov-class carrier, the Varyag..
But from what I've learned, its quite difficult to have torpedo to explode directly several feet below the ship..
No need la, too expensive. better have more frigates and corvettes..
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yup, it difficult but it inflict large amount of damage.
explode on the side of the ship is more than good enough.
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post Apr 30 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(asd5139 @ Apr 30 2012, 12:39 PM)
After watching the battleship movie...I think Malaysia Navy should buy some destroyer ship. Frigate strong enough meh??
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Cheap Destroyer boleh lah no Cruise Missile....
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post Apr 30 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(asd5139 @ Apr 30 2012, 12:39 PM)
After watching the battleship movie...I think Malaysia Navy should buy some destroyer ship. Frigate strong enough meh??
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We don't need destroyer, just get a bigger frigate like 5000 tonnes type. Current one we have is like having a kancil instead of camry.
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Apr 30 2012, 04:18 PM)
We don't need destroyer, just get a bigger frigate like 5000 tonnes type. Current one we have is like having a kancil instead of camry.
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so gowind class is like vios?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 30 2012, 04:24 PM)
so gowind class is like vios?? hmm.gif
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just nice for RMN, but if can add a bigger naval gun and more VL launcher would be best. made it look more garang. brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(James831 @ Apr 30 2012, 04:48 PM)
just nice for RMN, but if can add a bigger naval gun and more VL launcher would be best. made it look more garang. brows.gif  brows.gif
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gun you said.
nothing can beat these.
16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun
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post Apr 30 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 30 2012, 04:54 PM)
gun you said.
nothing can beat these.
16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun
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if RMN operate a IOWA Class Battleship the can lar.

i more hope for Oto Melara 127/54 Compact Gun Mount or 127/64 Lightweight (LW) naval Gun Mount. RMN also a customer of oto Melara, right? beside oto Melara also got Service Centre in RMN lumut naval base?????
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post Apr 30 2012, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 30 2012, 04:54 PM)
gun you said.
nothing can beat these.
16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun
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just wondering can modern ciws (either gun/missile base) handle heavy shell round from heavy guns like Schwerer Gustav or yamato 18" gun?

hypothetically?

exclude logistic nature of railway gun and a ship maneuverability..

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QUOTE(sleep_snore @ Apr 30 2012, 07:03 PM)
just wondering can modern ciws (either gun/missile base) handle heavy shell round from heavy guns like Schwerer Gustav or yamato 18" gun?

hypothetically?
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probably can because the shell contain fuse or detonator. so the cwis just need to trigger the detonator
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QUOTE(sleep_snore @ Apr 30 2012, 07:03 PM)
just wondering can modern ciws (either gun/missile base) handle heavy shell round from heavy guns like Schwerer Gustav or yamato 18" gun?

hypothetically?

exclude logistic nature of railway gun and a ship maneuverability..
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can't.
I would said nearly impossible.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 30 2012, 07:49 PM)
can't.
I would said nearly impossible.
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agree
if there is a chances as long radar can detect the shell and came out with trajectory for the medium CIWS like oto melara or bofors cannon
or at more shorter range like the Meroka, AK630 or Phalanx!

just my 2 cent!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 1 2012, 01:46 AM)
agree
if there is a chances as long radar can detect the shell and came out with trajectory for the medium CIWS like oto melara or bofors cannon
or at more shorter range like the Meroka, AK630 or Phalanx!

just my 2 cent!
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the thing is normal anti-ship missile would weight around less than half tonne.. while supergun would have a shell round
weight an excess of 7 tonne..

realizing that u gonna stop a 7 tonne bullet.. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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