Thing is, they have individuals who have many experience on continental level. The coach and the players are quite well known figures. I don't think Napoli have the luxury of such amount of experience City possess. A lot of their players are in their first UCL campaign. Yet Napoli deservedly beat City to qualify.

Yea Inter is an amazing story. They won their group with only 1 goal difference, scoring 8 conceded 7, and failed in both occasions to beat Trabzonspor, a wildcard entry after Galatasaray IINM were banned.

itu indivdual bang,

tactical affects your game.

coz u're going to play defensive-minded italian (i'm not saying any team..just example on NT ok), free flow football of spanish (Barca, RM & even Valencia held more posession vs Chelsea altho they lose 3-0), robust gameplay of english things like that la..

u think it's easy ka to go for different type of play than the one u use on each week for league? european matches sure la must change a bit here there to accomodate opponent's tactical..

Kerana ayat itu. Pembuka bebenang sendiri sudah menjawab persoalan beliau. Liga Perdana Inggeris mungkin adalah liga yang paling dikenali di seluruh dunia, namun adakah itu bermaksud ia adalah liga yang paling bagus? Ini adalah kerana media massa kita amat berat sebelah, hanya mengambil sumber berita dari liga mereka tanpa mengendahkan liga liga yang lain. Bila kali terakhir kamu baca berita/isu yang melibatkan liga lain seperti liga Belanda, German atau Portugal? Pengedaran sumber berita yang tidak setaraf ini memberikan pandangan seolah - olah liga perdana Inggeris amat hebat dan kompetitif.

Pada pandangan saya secara peribadi, liga Sepanyol dan liga Itali lagi kompetitif dan juga lebih bagus. Liga Sepanyol walaupun dikuasai oleh dua pasukan hebat, namun tetap menitik beratkan keupayaan pemain tempatan, dan ini membuatkan semua pasukan (tidak termasuk Madrid Betul) tidak perlu bergantung harap pada pemain luar yang mungkin dibayar berjuta juta, namun dengan prestasi yang setaraf dengan sampah. Liga Itali pula menitik beratkan strategi, di mana mereka memikirkan rancangan yang paling baik bagi mendapatkan kemenangan. Mungkin cara bola sepak mereka nampak membosankan, namun ia berkesan.

Kembali ke liga perdana Inggeris, banyak masaalah yang boleh dilihat. Pemain import yang kemahiran dan keupayaan hanya setaraf dengan Nazmi Mansor diagungkan dan dibayar berjuta - juta, dengan pemain kelahiran negara sendiri dipinggirkan. Kelab pula sanggup berhutang piutang semata - mata hendak mendapatkan pemain - pemain ini. Apa yang jadi adalah kualiti bola sepak di negara mereka jatuh tanpa disedari mereka. Senang saja difikirkan, bila kali terakhir England dapat pergi ke final piala dunia? Tidak perlu tanya soalan itu pun, kali terakhir England dapat pergi ke separuh akhir mana mana perlawanan bertaraf dunia adalah bila? (Jawapan: Euro 96 yang dimainkan di England). Selagi mentaliti mereka tidak berubah, Liga Perdana Inggeris hanyalah sampah dan hanya akan gah setakat nama sahaja

talking about winning Euros @ Worldcup are still far ahead for England..in particular, english league/EPL
lets take the smaller example;

When was the last time there's an Englishmen as EPL top scorer in a season? --> Kevin Phillips in 2000

When was the last time there's an Englishmen manager won the BPL? -->none

so yes English Premier League is just a name bcoz its being held on English soil. Foreign Premier League sounds more appropriate

This post has been edited by [kuaLe]_AGX: Dec 9 2011, 09:39 AM

sudah cakap mah

lousy team ...

what else mau cakap ?

m.city - to be honest, there are bunch of players there full with CL experience. silva, yaya toure, kolo toure, nasri, balotelli, aguero, dzeko etc. mancini too is a manager with tons of CL experience, losing out in group stage is a very bad result for them. inexperience is nothing but an excuse to me

MU - somehow they have all the luck in BPL to win even when they play very bad, too bad those luck cant last at CL matches. got a lot injuries to their player but MU should be able to cope with that. a wakeup call for SAF

This post has been edited by love.beginner: Dec 9 2011, 10:07 AM

epl only won 1 categoty which is asia most famous league ... look at malaysia, singapore, thailand and hong kong

thats it ...

The fact EPL has more success in a commercialization (world-wide). no wonder, some people clouded their mind EPL is the best. especially it is being uttered repeatedly.

But it is a blip for Man Utd & it is well address among its fans. But the wonderful constantly done well in Europe for recent seasons (SF,W,F,QF,F) after 05/06 embarrassing out of group stages , I have to say it's bollocks can't compete in Europe for having a blip once again.

meh. So many factors contributing Man Utd "downfall" to EL.

City is a newcomer to UCL, so I can understand they have been ousted. It is expected. But I said well done City is in tough group. There is still a hole in their chemistry, at least from what I watched

wait, for another season eh?

I still don't understand the obsession whether all EPL teams will flop or so called "can't compete". At least for me, I only want United all the way. The others? not so much. I just say good luck

I sincerely hope another entertaining finalist in UCL

This post has been edited by legendofhafiz: Dec 9 2011, 10:39 AM

its pretty obvious really from a neutral point of view, in epl they can do this



in champions league they can't

another bashing thread.

Not really bashing when the thread starter is a 'Pool's fan

however City got world class players that are experienced in CL football...

and the same thing is happening at Dortmund too, performing considerably well in the Bundesliga but perform badly in CL too..

this season i suppork RM la wei

well, sometimes a team still need to 'gel' despite having a massive experience. I'm sure they will learned from it if they want to moving forward as top top team. Hoping City immediately winning all trophies is quite steep ladder. Let them at least won the league. The team need to be confident. I'm sure City will learn & will do well like Spurs in their debut season for coming season.

Domestic and Europe competition are two different lion's den. I salute Barca's capability to won both domestic and europe. not an easy feat even with large depth squad

these ppl dont understand la..later they will just rotate the same thing "all these players are world class, so unacceptable result for them"

oi even if u hate manchester city so much pon just admit la they're new to the european challenge. susah ka

it's a bit injustice to say that the failure of man city and man utd to go through the last 16 means EPL is a poor league compared to the other leagues.look at man city's group.every manager would be shaking to be in that group.it can be traced back to the grouping seeding.the fact that they're relatively new in european competition means they need to be seeded in third seeds.thus,increase the chance of being up against two strong teams.unfortunately the other two teams were villareal and bayern munich.in addition to that,the fourth seed in the group was napoli,a club which has similar stature of man city,new to europe,but strong in their league.we should not say that man city's failure due to the inexperience.it's their european status that fails them.

now,on to man utd.from my own view,it's just tough luck they had.injuries,key players underperform,backup players failed to rise to the occasion.it's all there.it reminds me the season that liverpool failed to qualify to the round of sixteen few seasons ago.similar situation.

it's nothing to with the league standard.

to those who think EPL isnt the best league, please do tell me which league is the best and why.

thanks.

why must there be "the best league"??

I dont get it why Manchester City didn't qualify since they are doing really good in league matches. Not like MU who obviously below than regular average form.

EPL is a global league. That is why they don't bother on national development and also why they are so famous one compare to other league.

i didnt start this thread