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post Dec 30 2011, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Airoha @ Dec 29 2011, 11:43 PM)
Hi, can any lawyer advise whether the developer S&P lawyer can do this?
The scenario is like this:-
I bought a condo with S&P free using developer lawyer. S&P and loan agreement signed and stamped already. Today, S&P lawyer call and said the developer want to amend something on 1 page of the S&P and the effect to me is minimum. (I haven't received what is the changes). The lawyer will send 4 copies of A4 papers to replace that page to me and ask me to initial of all 4 pages of A4 paper and sent remaining 3 pages to her. My question is, is this common practice in Malaysia? Is the S&P still legally valid? IF I refuse to the changes, what can I do? (The developer is a listed company)
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Yes, parties can amend the SPA. But do check what it is. Probably a typo? Error? At least they should inform you what it is.

Amendments are practised but am not sure if it is COMMON. Can't back it up with any database or somesort. SPA would still be valid,no prob.

If you refuse? What if the amendment goes to the root of the contract and affects the performance of the contract? Then would it not end up being detrimental to you?


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post Dec 30 2011, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(littlegirlmsia @ Dec 30 2011, 10:24 AM)
Dear Dario,

I just moved into a new Condo that i bought from the developer. And within the first week, my bathroom was flooded with human waste. The management was on Christmas holidays, and i had to tahan the smell and unhygienic bathroom for two days before they fixed it. They blamed it on the contractors from the renovations. I feel so disgucted that i haven't been using the bathroom and even the attached bedroom. May i know can i ask for compensation?
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The developer fixed it at their own cost right? Then you have not suffered any direct pecuniary losses.

Other losses - Trauma? Toilet-Phobia (google it up, there is such a thing) ? Anguish? Depression?

If you want to prove mental suffering, anguish, trauma, etc, you need to get a psychiatric report to confirm that your mental condition is a direct consequence of the crappy (no pun intended) service by the developer.

That itself would not be easy.

Then it goes to assessment of damages (compensation) - how much can you get for such mental suffering, anguish, trauma, etc, ? How to assess? How long is the impact? Curable? Permanent?

Do bear in mind that you need to bear the costs of the medical reports, etc first, without any guarantee of success. So do bear the pros and cons before pursuing the matter further.

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QUOTE(tobetest @ Dec 30 2011, 11:25 AM)
the house is clean title under my name, now i wish to put only my wife name, which way is cheapest way to do this?
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Excellent. Do a clean transfer with "love and affection from husband to wife" as consideration via a memorandum of transfer (MOT).

100% exemption upon stamp duty on the MOT and perhaps just few hundred in disbursements.

Legal fees would be a reasonable figure not more than the scaled fees according to the market value of the property at the time of transfer. In other words, it's negotiable.

The work is minimal anyway, as there is no SPA involved. Don't be tricked into paying more for preparation of Deed of Gift, etc. That is not needed based on the facts of your case, i.e. from husband to wife.

All in all, can be completed within 3-4 weeks at the soonest.

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post Dec 30 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(GuyM @ Dec 30 2011, 01:59 PM)
DarioFoo,

Just wanna wish you Happy New Year and may you have a thunderous dragon year!!!

Cheers as always!!!
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Happy new year to you too, chief. Have a great year ahead. notworthy.gif

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post Jan 1 2012, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(silversuave @ Dec 30 2011, 02:32 PM)
If i am a first time home buyer and using islamic financing, do i get 50% + 20% exemption for the stamp duty of loan agreement?
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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Dec 30 2011, 04:29 PM)
Hi Dariofoo,

I have a situation here. I just sold my property and the purchaser's lawyer promised that she will inform the purchaser to get the Cukai Pintu to assing to his account and cancel mine, but after more than few months, I received the letter for the Cukai Pintu which is still under my name.

What should I do now? Call the purchaser lawyer to chase the purchaser to do it? Or I settle the bill first and then claim from the purchaser's lawyer?
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You don't need to pay. Forward the bill to the purchaser's solicitors for onward transmission to the purchaser, and remind them that the purchaser has yet to do the change of name at the local authority. Put it down in writing. Insist on a receipt to be sent to you after payment so that you know it has been paid. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Milo_O @ Dec 31 2011, 01:43 PM)
Question: EPF withdrawal

Situation: Me and my girlfriend as a buyer wud like to withdraw EPF Account 2 for house withdrawal for a joint ownership for a property.
              I already have a joint ownership of one property with my mother
              My girlfriend already have a joint ownership of one property with his brother.

In this situation, can me and my girlfriend still withdraw from EPF to purchase a property ?

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You did not mention if it is the first time which both parties are making the withdrawal from EPF.

In other words, did either party make a withdrawal from EPF when purchasing the first house respectively? If yes, then you can't make another withdrawal until that house is sold off.

Another thing to note is that for withdrawal for purchase of property with a party who is not a kin, the other party must be the purchaser AND borrower as well.

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QUOTE(leechers @ Dec 31 2011, 07:51 AM)
dario, altough this is not really a legal case, but i would like to seek for your advice.

as you may know, i am in the middle of buying an apartment, through an agent and this had come to the final step (hopefully) that is waiting for 1st release from the bank.

it is sub purchase, and the vendor (purchaser) keep chasing me about the payment, it already more than 10days (as promised by the bank, 10 working days for them to release payment) i am sub purchaser.

1. is it normal for the vendor to chase me, and not through agent? what is the purpose of the agent actually?

2. according to SPA, it is 3+1 from the date of getting the state consent, so i am not really worried but me too are really hopeful that i will be able to get the keys as fast as possible, so that i can proceed with with renovation etc.. should i worried that this process will pending at bank stage for quite a long period? this is maybank btw..

3. based on the receipt, the owner already made payment for maintenance etc to management office until december, let say i dont get the key by january 2012, do i need to pay for the management fee for january or do owner need to settle for it? according to agent i need to settle 3months of maintenance fee that is to pay back to owner for oct, nov and dis. is this normal practice?

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1. Vendor should buzz your lawyer, not you. Vendor should not have direct contact with you since you have a solicitor who is representing you. As for your query on purpose of agent - you'd better off asking an agent rather than here. nod.gif

2. Sorry I don't get your question.

3. Owner settles all utilities up to date of surrender of keys. It will be pro-rated, though some vendors don't mind and round it up to the month to make it easier. Perhaps the 3 months maintenance refers to advance deposit required by the management office. I'd suggest that you ask your solicitor to just check with the office to see what the rules are. Don't just take the agent or vendor's words at face value. And ask for receipt for payment for January 2012 also. Your bank will require it for the final drawdown/release.

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icon_rolleyes.gif HAPPY NEW YEAR 2012 TO ALL! MAY YOU ALL HAVE A BLESSED YEAR AHEAD! nod.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jan 1 2012, 04:02 AM)
dario, thanks for your advice. appreciate it every bits.

for no 2, it actually refers to 3+1 period of which further delay i will need to pay penalty for late payment, something like that, and based on S&P, it stated that the 3+1 starts from the date the state consent letter received, not the date S&P was signed. if im not mistaken the state consent letter received on end of november 2011, so should i need to worry for any late payment penalty?
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Well, you have another 2 months to go and as you said, bank is ready to release first drawdown. That's quite fast actually. nod.gif
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QUOTE(yee5428 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:36 AM)
urgent reply needed..
i rented a apartment since june 2009, for 2 years contact. on mid of dec'11, owner suddenly increase the renter from rm520 to rm700. we try to negotiate with owner, but she not agree,somemore today say want us to pay rm750 and just reserve 1 month for us to stay. can i know owner can simply increase the renter after contract expired?
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Once the tenancy expires, the tenancy continues on a month-to-month basis. Landlord has the right to negotiate new terms for continuation of rental. If you don't agree, you have the right to be given notice of one month to vacate the premises. So in this case, either you agree to the new terms or you move out. Remember that during the one month notice period, you still pay the old rental and not the new one. Landlord has no right to impose new rental without your agreement.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jan 2 2012, 03:17 PM)
Dariofoo, happy new year !

Can you tell me where I can get the buyer CKHT income tax form.
I am trying to save money by filling it up myself.  Can I download it ? Will the income tax dept accept printer printed forms ?
After I have filled it up, what document do I need to obtain from income tax dept to hand to my lawyer so he can process my MOT ?
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You can download it from LHDN website.

Yes, they accept printed forms.

You don't need to pass to your lawyer anything. Submission of CKHT forms has nothing to do with MOT.
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QUOTE(Milo_O @ Jan 2 2012, 04:23 PM)
Hi dariofoo,
Thanks for the respond  rclxms.gif
Me and my girlfriend have not made any withdrawal from EPF Account 2 before

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Ok cool. As I mentioned, since she is not your kin, she has to be the purchaser and borrower with you as well in order for her to qualify for withdrawal.

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QUOTE(rukawa_mc @ Jan 2 2012, 05:35 PM)
Dear Dario, need your kind advice on my scenario.

My father had passed away and left a property to us. All siblings agree to sell the property. As such, we had decided to assign a lawyer to make the transfer ownership matter on the grant so that we can sell the property.

My inquiry is,
1. How long would it take to transfer the ownership to our name via lawyer service?
2. Any Procedure / practice we need to take note?
3. How much is the lawyer fees?
4. Who is correct person we should ask to estimate the price of the house? to assign Adjuster or Valuer Or real estate agent? Do you have any recommendation?
5. Hear say, A area's agent cannot take over cases in B area's cases... Is this true?

I feel so helpless.. hope you guys can help me out! thanks~
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1. Depends on how much property involved, whether there are outstanding liabilities, collection of documents in relation to assets, etc. It's hard to tell. Depends on how efficient your lawyer is as well.

2. Just make sure that complete documentation is given to your lawyer from the first point itself. Even if it takes time, dig up everything and compile it properly before handing it over.

3. No fixed scaled fees. Differs from lawyer to lawyer.

4. You're talking about in the future when the property is ready to be put up for sale? With regard to valuer, do you have direct contact to one? Do bear in mind that there are charges to be paid for the valuation. You might as well first go online and check out the prices put up for other units in the same area. After that, if you're confident with the price, you can advertise to sell it on your own or appoint a real estate agent to do the sale for you.

5. Never heard of this before. Funny if it really is true though. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Bimbo @ Jan 3 2012, 03:36 PM)
Hi Dario,

I got a Quit Rent & House Assessment question here. My daddy passed away last year and I'm inherited all the assets. One of the assets, is shared ownership house. The ownerships included my elder Uncle & Auntie(this 2 are couple) and younger Uncle. 3 of them now at USA, and they seldom back to Malaysia. I can predict my elder uncle wont come back to M'sia anymore, perhaps younger uncle will.
I have suggested elder uncle to sell house since this is shared and it's better settle earlier as they still alive. But younger uncle refuse to do so due on certain reason. As what I know, shared house required all ownerships agree then only can proceed selling. (I could smell my elder uncle wish to sell too, but he had no words after my younger uncle disagree on that).
So my question is, how I'm going to settle this Quit Rent and House Assessment issue? Since they are at foreign country, any problems sure wont effected them directly but me! And I'm not going to bear this fees since my dad had been paid for more than 20 years, they even not paying a single cents on this house.  Some more I got my own property, which is out of my capable to bear this extra expenses. (I been moved out from that house, now house vacant)
Is it got a better way to settle this with fair since JUAL cannot, and no one willing bear those expenses?
If I resist to pay the bill too, what would comes to me? and the rest owner?

This problem really screw me up cry.gif Hope to get your reply soon. Thanks.
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After separating the wheat from the chaff, I think what you're asking is - what action can the authorities take against the owners of the property if you fail to pay quit rent or assessment, right?

Firstly there would be reminders sent to the address of the property. Many would be sent and it would accumulate.

Well, if they do select your particular unit for enforcement - most likely in years to come - they can get an order to sita (seize) any movable property found therein and put it up for public auction, and the proceeds from same would be used to pay the due payment plus costs. Any excess sum would be paid to you after all deductions have been made.

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QUOTE(it.fusion @ Jan 3 2012, 03:44 PM)
Hi Dario,

I am purchasing used 150K appt.. and i totaly newbie to on all purchase process between Vendor / Owner / S&P Lawyer / Bank Lawyer..

What shall i expect in S&P ?  - and what shall i highlite to the lawyer that is purchaser rights..etc

Please do advice the whole process which may help me on purchasing the unit. thanks smile.gif
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Appoint a good lawyer as it is his job to highlight to you your rights as a purchaser, not the other way round. The lawyer would prepare the SPA on your behalf. All you need to do at this moment is to get all the relevant documents for him, or ask the agent to do it for you - the letter of offer to purchase, copy of ICs of vendor and yourself, copy of principal SPA, assessment and quit rent receipts, vendor's loan particulars, copy of title (if any).

Get the ball rolling first and if you have a specific answer, do come back and ask.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jan 3 2012, 09:41 PM)
Then how will my lawyer know that the buyer has actually submitted it ? Isn't it mandatory to submit ?

The buyer can just lie to the lawyer that he has submitted but actually has not. What are the consequences for the buyer ?
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Then just give a photocopy of the acknowledgement to the lawyer.

If you elect to do it on your own, the lawyer will prepare a disclaimer whereby you agree to take full responsibility of submission of the CKHT forms and all consequences arising therefrom. After that, the lawyer has no business as to whether you submit it or not. It's not part of his professional duties anymore.


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QUOTE(littlegirlmsia @ Jan 3 2012, 11:26 PM)
Thank you for your advice. You are right, it is a long road. I actually had the phobia to use the toilet, even after i used Dettol, Bleach, and acid to wash my toilet, i didn't dare to use the toilet until 4 days ago. And guess what? Today, when i came back, i saw the same problem again, and this time the human waste is even more that the last time. And it reached the door. I have contacted the Developer and the person in charge said all i could do is to wait for the plumber to come tmr. And i have to take leave to do that. And as i am writing now, the waste is still flooding my bathroom and i am so worried that it will flow out, and spoil my timber flooring and my expensive new built in wardrobe. It is worrying me. This is really menatlly torturing.

I called the realtor who works in the Real Estate Agency that exclusive agency that sells this condo during the construction period. He told me that after the handover of the keys, he got to know that this developer used cheap materials to cut costs. So, intead of two different piping for shower drain and sewage darin, they combine into one big pipe, that's why the human waste overflow from the shower drain.

Dario, plase advise me what else i can do? I do not want to face the same problem again, even after they "fixed" it tmr.

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Sorry to hear about your situation.

Perhaps you can take photographs of the current situation for record purposes. Hand in a copy of the photos to the developer and get it acknowledged.

If the damage extends to your flooring and wardrobe, then you have actual loss and you can sue them for negligence. But do take precautions like to block the gap at the bottom of the door to at least prevent it from seeping through. You can't just let it flow, and then later just claim for damages. You need to show that you had taken measures to prevent, or at least mitigate any damage.

Are you the only one facing this problem? Are there others? Gang up and try making some noise. Is there a JMB? Approach a committee member and raise the issue. See what comes out of it.

Apart from the above, I can't advise you any further than I did in my reply to you earlier.

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QUOTE(YAK @ Jan 4 2012, 07:12 AM)
Hi Dario,

Want you advise on a situation i'm facing. I bought a house where the loan was drawndown and keys received. The house came with a tenant renting which I didn't want but because I can't just chase him out I verbally agreed to let him stay 3 month so that he can look for another house and he agreed to take care of the house. The previous owner passed two months and utility deposit to me.

I received the keys on 2 Jan 12 and refunded one month rent to him with cheque as he did not pay Dec 2011 rent. Held utility the uitlity deposit until he produce the bills paid. The house was in bad condition, rubbish including broken furniture all over and very dirty. I check and found out he did not pay the electric and water for Oct - Nov 2011 amounting to around RM900.

I have stop the cheque payment, total deposit with me now is RM1,600. Is there any legal consequence in doing this? the deposit is to cover outstanding bills, clean up, rubbish removal and also damages in some part of the house. I don't have any written agreement with him.
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It's quite clear that the purchase comes with an existing tenancy over the property, which you have accepted and agreed to continue to subsist through your conduct in accepting the deposits. So you now step into the shoes of the vendor as the landlord. Is there a tenancy agreement entered into between the vendor and tenant prior to this?

So, it doesn't really matter if you have an agreement with him.

Everything is verbal or through conduct - that's why it becomes messy.

By right you ought to have asked the vendor to give him notice of default of payment and terminated the tenancy with one month's notice back in December when he defaulted in payment of rental.

Now, you have not terminated the tenancy in writing, but through the conduct of both parties. it does appear that the tenancy has been determined through agreement - you have refunded to him one month's rent and he has accepted it (cheque for that cleared?)

So one good thing is that he can't later claim that you had unlawfully terminated the tenancy and/or unlawfully evicted him.

You might want to put something in writing now to state:

1) Another one month's deposit is to set-off rental for Dec 2011; and
2) Cheque No___________ has been stopped as you had, on xxx date, inspected the premises and discovered the following defects and damage to the property and/or the premises which warrants the following repairs:

* list down all repairs to be made and estimated costs.

Also state and list down unpaid bills, with the bills annexed to it.

At the bottom, inform him that the cheque for payment was stopped as the monies would be used to make good the said repairs and settle the outstanding bills.

[Is the sum of RM1600.00 enough to cover everything? If not enough, you need to put in another clause which states that you have the right to initiate legal proceedings against the tenant in the event the deposits held is not sufficient for above matters]

Hand it over to the tenant and get it acknowledged by the tenant on every page.

Then you proceed to do the necessary - if got excess, refund it to him.

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QUOTE(YAK @ Jan 4 2012, 10:50 AM)
Thank you for the valuable advise. I have earlier asked him to acknowledge end of tenancy with the refund of one month rent which I subsequently cancel. In the acknowledgement it is also mention this is pending checking of outstanding bills.

One question now can I send an SMS notice to him on the cancellation of cheque because of outstanding bills and damages caused? Or if not through register mail?
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He has moved out? If you can still meet him might as well go by hand. Or perhaps courier. Registered mail is not mandatory, and it is not the speediest method. You wait ages to get the AR card back.

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