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 TTDI Alam Impian Shah Alam v2, by Naza TTDI

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klangboy83
post May 25 2012, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(naing @ May 25 2012, 08:48 AM)
Although you said you are a married woman, I feel like discussing with a teenager every time we have a discussion in this forum...smile.gif
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post May 25 2012, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(naing @ May 25 2012, 08:48 AM)
Well.. we know that the kindergarten inside Spira does not have permit to operate and if they wish to ride their luck and operate illegally, then go ahead. We will do our part by letting MBSA knows about it.

Everyone with common sense will know that the security in Spira will improve if we effectively control the entry point and regular patrolling. With the kindergarten operating in Spira, a few outsiders have no problem entering Spira and it will make Spira less secure. there is no such thing as 100% security in Malaysia.

Although you said you are a married woman, I feel like discussing with a teenager every time we have a discussion in this forum...smile.gif
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YES GUARD HOUSE AT SPIRA ALSO IS ILLEGAL.NOT APPROVED BY MBSA.ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.DEMOLISH IT.

RESIDENTS APPLY FOR APPROVAL.GET IT DONE AFTER 2 YEARS.THAN BECOME G&G AGAIN.SUPERB.

YOU SAID YOU ARE ARE A LECTURER BUT SUPPORTING ILLEGAL GUARD HOUSE.

Your'll talking the same thing again and again. When ask to form a RA all giving excuses.Do thing legally please.

Sounds like i am talking to a small kid.Know the solution but dont want to do it.

Wendy Tan
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QUOTE(Wendy Tan One @ May 25 2012, 08:59 AM)
YES GUARD HOUSE AT SPIRA ALSO IS ILLEGAL.NOT APPROVED BY MBSA.ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.DEMOLISH IT.

RESIDENTS APPLY FOR APPROVAL.GET IT DONE AFTER 2 YEARS.THAN BECOME G&G AGAIN.SUPERB.

YOU SAID YOU ARE ARE A LECTURER BUT SUPPORTING ILLEGAL GUARD HOUSE.

Your'll talking the same thing again and again. When ask to form a RA all giving excuses.Do thing legally please.

Sounds like i am talking to a small kid.Know the solution but dont want to do it.

Wendy Tan
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Now I feel like I am talking with 7 years old kid....smile.gif That's why others ignore you.. do you notice that? Probably, I have to do the same...smile.gif
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QUOTE(Wendy Tan One @ May 25 2012, 08:59 AM)
YES GUARD HOUSE AT SPIRA ALSO IS ILLEGAL.NOT APPROVED BY MBSA.ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.DEMOLISH IT.
This is childish, anybody that genuinely invest in the property for investment or own stay would not say this.

But if I invested my money to renovate the kindy, and knowing that I will lost a lot of money if it's banned, I might make similar statement whistling.gif

To kindy owner: it might be allowed if:
1. outside parents can drop their kids outside of guardhouse, and teachers come out to pick up the kids
2. kindy bears extra maintenance fee since it "consumes" more maintenance & security labor.

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post May 25 2012, 09:11 AM

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[quote=naing,May 25 2012, 08:55 AM]

YES GUARD HOUSE AT SPIRA ALSO IS ILLEGAL.NOT APPROVED BY MBSA.ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.DEMOLISH IT.

RESIDENTS APPLY FOR APPROVAL.GET IT DONE AFTER 2 YEARS.THAN BECOME G&G AGAIN.SUPERB.

Wendy Tan

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Since we don't like your idea so you are going to destroy our neighborhood? Way to go!!! Thank you for showing your true color...smile.gif Good luck to all Viola owners...smile.gif
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When you can show your true colours I also can show my true colours.

Bottom line is everyone must benefit at Alam Impian.Not devided i am Spira,you are viola,canting cannot come here.What is this.Not our Malaysian culture.

You really showing you are a foreigner aren't you.

Wendy Tan



Added on May 25, 2012, 9:13 am[quote=klangboy83,May 25 2012, 09:05 AM]
This is childish, anybody that genuinely invest in the property for investment or own stay would not say this.

But if I invested my money to renovate the kindy, and knowing that I will lost a lot of money if it's banned, I might make similar statement whistling.gif

To kindy owner: it might be allowed if:
1. outside parents can drop their kids outside of guardhouse, and teachers come out to pick up the kids
2. kindy bears extra maintenance fee since it "consumes" more maintenance & security labor.
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Than if Nayanti case happens again here.You pay the ransom.Can.

Wendy Tan



Added on May 25, 2012, 9:13 am[quote=klangboy83,May 25 2012, 08:55 AM]
And I feel like Wendy Tan is a MALE cool2.gif
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Klangboy sound girlish

Wendy Tan


This post has been edited by Wendy Tan One: May 25 2012, 09:13 AM
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I follow AI closely even when 1st naza launch the project I visit their office, now sad to know this argument... even I don't own a house there.
I think to be fair since the kinder garden already invest some money there, tenant in the taman and kinder garden should meet and come up with 1 solution instead of fighting each others. It won't help...
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QUOTE(jacob888 @ May 25 2012, 09:13 AM)
I follow AI closely even when 1st naza launch the project I visit their office, now sad to know this argument... even I don't own a house there.
I think to be fair since the kinder garden already invest some money there, tenant in the taman and kinder garden should meet and come up with 1 solution instead of fighting each others. It won't help...
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You sound reasonable..

But we had this kind of heated discussion on this forum long before someone was planning to open a kindergarten inside Spira and we were voicing against it for similar reasons. But whoever opening it did not pay attention to it and went ahead with their own plan without consulting neighbors. Now they pay the price for doing business this way.
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post May 25 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(jacob888 @ May 25 2012, 09:13 AM)
I follow AI closely even when 1st naza launch the project I visit their office, now sad to know this argument... even I don't own a house there.
I think to be fair since the kinder garden already invest some money there, tenant in the taman and kinder garden should meet and come up with 1 solution instead of fighting each others. It won't help...
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agreed 100%.

Wendy Tan



Added on May 25, 2012, 9:25 am
QUOTE(naing @ May 25 2012, 09:20 AM)
You sound reasonable..

But we had this kind of heated discussion on this forum long before someone was planning to open a kindergarten inside Spira and we were voicing against it for similar reasons. But whoever opening it did not pay attention to it and went ahead with their own plan without consulting neighbors.  Now they pay the price for doing business this way.
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most of the places have RA and management to discussed. We dont have a RA here.Putting my self in thier shoes,expect them to trust the forums and make a decision is it.How is that possible.

Forum is a discussion.Cannot take it as a prove of people support or not.

Wendy Tan

This post has been edited by Wendy Tan One: May 25 2012, 09:25 AM
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post May 25 2012, 09:26 AM

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true.. wendy tan one starting to sound like he/she has a stake in the kindie.

the message here: we are not against a kindie in alam impian, just not in spira, if other phases want to accommodate them, certainly we won't protest or even comment.

when we set up the jmb, first thing is to dismantle the "security arrangement" they have with our guards. we know the kindie's got cable with ttdi to push their way thru until now.

most of you here are not even aware of the lies/misrepresentations the kindie operator tried to cook up during the MBSA hearing. If this is the type of ppl you want to entrust your kids to, *shrugg* your call.

1 thing i notice, some other phase owners all support the kindie. Well would you still support if it is in your phase, or you are supporting it because it is convenient for you and yet does not impact your G&G security since it is someone else's (Spira's) problem?

@ Wendy Tan One
Looking forward to you tearing down Viola's guard house because it is illegal too. Walk the talk.

This post has been edited by zenquix: May 25 2012, 09:31 AM
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post May 25 2012, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(zenquix @ May 25 2012, 09:26 AM)
true.. wendy tan one starting to sound like he/she has a stake in the kindie.

the message here: we are not against a kindie in alam impian, just not in spira, if other phases want to accommodate them, certainly we won't protest or even comment.

when we set up the jmb, first thing is to dismantle the "security arrangement" they have with our guards. we know the kindie's got cable with ttdi to push their way thru until now.

most of you here are not even aware of the lies/misrepresentations the kindie operator tried to cook up during the MBSA hearing. If this is the type of ppl you want to entrust your kids to, *shrugg* your call.

1 thing i notice, some other phase owners all support the kindie. Well would you still support if it is in your phase, or you are supporting it because it is convenient for you and yet does not impact your G&G security since it is someone else's (Spira's) problem?
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Do you mind sharing what happen during the hearing with MBSA. Dont get it what do you mean by operator tried to cook up. Didnt your manage to get the contact of the Operator.

How many of your'll took the effort to meet the Operator and discussed.

Now dont pull me inside this game.Your'll will tell i got share , later will tell i am the Owner.Tommorow got burger protest in spira also will tell belongs to me.Please laa

Wendy Tan

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QUOTE(Wendy Tan One @ May 25 2012, 09:32 AM)
Do you mind sharing what happen during the hearing with MBSA. Dont get it what do you mean by operator tried to cook up. Didnt your manage to get the contact of the Operator.
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Why should I get the operator's contact? Shouldn't the operator have engaged the residents before they developed the kindergarten?

Of coz you don't get it. You were not there, and you are still in your illusion that kindie is all that great.
Lots of people in Spira complained and wrote in, but MBSA was only willing to consider complaints from the same road and direct neighbours of the kindie. That was still about 75% of occupied units there, including the direct neighbours of the kindie.

Whether Spira supports or rejects the kindie is a Spira internal matter. But you have decided to fight for the kindie even though you have conceded you are not a resident of Spira.
Let's be frank. I consider you selfish as you want your own convenience at the expense of others.

For those in Spira who are against the kindie still operating, please submit your complaint to http://aduan.mbsa.gov.my/ under Salahguna Bangunan.
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QUOTE(zenquix @ May 25 2012, 09:50 AM)
Why should I get the operator's contact? Shouldn't the operator have engaged the residents before they developed the kindergarten?

Of coz you don't get it. You were not there, and you are still in your illusion that kindie is all that great.
Lots of people in Spira complained and wrote in, but MBSA was only willing to consider complaints from the same road and direct neighbours of the kindie. That was still about 75% of occupied units there, including the direct neighbours of the kindie.

Whether Spira supports or rejects the kindie is a Spira internal matter. But you have decided to fight for the kindie even though you have conceded you are not a resident of Spira.
Let's be frank. I consider you selfish as you want your own convenience at the expense of others.

For those in Spira who are against the kindie still operating, please submit your complaint to http://aduan.mbsa.gov.my/ under Salahguna Bangunan.
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101 in MBSA list. Why not form the RA and than make the complain.more effective right.

Wendy Tan


Added on May 25, 2012, 10:18 amWhen ask to form RA,looking like no one coming forward.This shows all the one against this idea in the forum is INVESTORS and they are actually not staying here to become a commitee.


Down the road they will sell the property and leave.The true residence is the one going to live with no facilities.Investors only think how to make money.how to push the market price.so any comments that will bring down the market they will join and go against.

This method is not going to work with Alam Impian residence.No RA No Talk.

Wendy Tan


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QUOTE(Wendy Tan One @ May 25 2012, 10:10 AM)
101 in MBSA list. Why not form the RA and than make the complain.more effective right.

Wendy Tan


Added on May 25, 2012, 10:18 amWhen ask to form RA,looking like no one coming forward.This shows all the one against this idea in the forum is INVESTORS and they are actually not staying here to become a commitee.
Down the road they will sell the property and leave.The true residence is the one going to live with no facilities.Investors only think how to make money.how to push the market price.so any comments that will bring down the market they will join and go against.

This method is not going to work with Alam Impian residence.No RA No Talk.

Wendy Tan

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Can you please stop meddling in our Spira affair and concentrate on your Viola side? It will be appreciated.
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QUOTE(naing @ May 25 2012, 10:30 AM)
Can you please stop meddling in our Spira affair and concentrate on your Viola side? It will be appreciated.
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Sorry i cant do that.

Wendy Tan


Added on May 25, 2012, 10:37 am
QUOTE(Wendy Tan One @ May 25 2012, 10:33 AM)
Sorry i cant do that.

Wendy Tan
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Dont think Alam Impian Residence are fools who going to believe Investors who uses forum to dictate things. Investors are foreigners as well.Because Alam Impian Sales are open to foreigners.

We are Malaysian.We dont need foreigners to tell us what to do in our country.

If as a foreigner you have alot to say,I am born here as a Malaysian i have more to tell.Follow our Malaysia rules not your country rules.

Malaysian Woman are strong. We practise equal rights here.

Wendy Tan

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QUOTE(Wendy Tan One @ May 25 2012, 10:33 AM)
Sorry i cant do that.

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Added on May 25, 2012, 10:37 am
Dont think Alam Impian Residence are fools who going to believe Investors who uses forum to dictate things. Investors are foreigners as well.Because Alam Impian Sales are open to foreigners.

We are Malaysian.We dont need foreigners to tell us what to do in our country.

If as a foreigner you have alot to say,I am born here as a Malaysian i have more to tell.Follow our Malaysia rules not your country rules.

Malaysian Woman are strong. We practise equal rights here.

Wendy Tan
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It doesn't make sense to me whatever you are saying. And childish too. And you try to personally attack and bully other forumer who have different opinion with you. You could easily become one of the dictators in my country...smile.gif

Tell you frankly, we are the rightful owners of Spira, whether foreigner or Malaysian. And we will deal our Spira affair democratically.

You are just an outsider at best and you have no right to get involved in our affair.

I am politely asking you that since I just wanted you to keep quite since I don't want to waste my time writing this kind of unproductive comments.



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investors are like the guy who rented out to the kindie. He certainly don't care about the living environment there. Yeah I have his details too.

But i do agree that alot of owners are investors. After 1 year, Spira is only abt 40-50% occupied. But most of the people in this forum are actually residents. My own reno is still not done yet.

There was talk of forming an RA. Even TTDI is asking us to form an RA. I don't confess to knowing what the delay is, only spending one day a week there just to check on the reno. Hopefully once I moved in, I can see for certain why there is a lack of will to form it.

The thing I dislike is that you claim to be on the side of residents, but yet you dismiss the views of the Spira residents who has raised their points and objections, and maintain an almighty perch claiming you know what's best. Does Viola 's interest outweigh those of Spira's (which is directly being affected by this)?

This was raised before but I will reiterate.

Say the kindie is allowed to operate:

1) Who is going to foot the additional security cost to due to additional load to the guards?
Answer: Spira Residents. Everyone will have to pay the cost altho only the house owner and kindie operator is reaping the profits. Parents are earning the convenience.
Loser: Spira Residents

2) touch wood say a kid got hurt or kidnapped. And Parent decide to sue. Who will get sued?
a. Kindie operator
b. Security company
c. JMB - why? because by allowing the kindie to operate, the spira residents would have to assume some responsibility of the security arrangement and lapses

3) the security lapses caused by the guards managing kindie parents allow a house to be broken into. Who is responsible?
a. Security company
b. JMB - why? because by allowing the kindie to operate, the spira residents would have to assume some responsibility of the security arrangement and lapses

These points have not considered the traffic congestion on the 2 lane road out front. Unless parents expect the guards to open boom for them the moment they drive up and horn, which just defeats the purpose of a guarded community.

To wendy tan and lucky2, please stop considering only your convenience and spare a thought for the Spira residents who have to foot the bill and responsibility.

This post has been edited by zenquix: May 25 2012, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(naing @ May 25 2012, 10:57 AM)
It doesn't make sense to me whatever you are saying. And childish too. And you try to personally attack and bully other forumer who have different opinion with you. You could easily become one of the dictators in my country...smile.gif

Tell you frankly, we are the rightful owners of Spira, whether foreigner or Malaysian. And we will deal our Spira affair democratically.

You are just an outsider at best and you have no right to get involved in our affair.

I am politely asking you that since I just wanted you to keep quite since I don't want to waste my time writing this kind of unproductive comments.
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correct the more i asnwer i am going out of topic already.the purpose of the forum is diverted.Why not your'll stop it.

Wendy Tan


Added on May 25, 2012, 11:18 am
QUOTE(zenquix @ May 25 2012, 11:07 AM)
investors are like the guy who rented out to the kindie. He certainly don't care about the living environment  there. Yeah I have his details too.

But i do agree that alot of owners are investors. After 1 year, Spira is only abt 40-50% occupied. But most of the people in this forum are actually residents. My own reno is still not done yet.

There was talk of forming an RA. Even TTDI is asking us to form an RA. I don't confess to knowing what the delay is, only spending one day a week there just to check on the reno. Hopefully once I moved in, I can see for certain why there is a lack of will to form it.

The thing I dislike is that you claim to be on the side of residents, but yet you dismiss the views of the Spira residents who has raised their points and objections, and maintain an almighty perch claiming you know what's best. Does Viola 's interest outweigh those of Spira's (which is directly being affected by this)?

This was raised before but I will reiterate.

Say the kindie is allowed to operate:

1) Who is going to foot the additional security cost to due to additional load to the guards?
Answer: Spira Residents. Everyone will have to pay the cost altho only the house owner and kindie operator is reaping the profits. Parents are earning the convenience.
Loser: Spira Residents

2) touch wood say a kid got hurt or kidnapped. And Parent decide to sue. Who will get sued?
a. Kindie operator
b. Security company
c. JMB - why? because by allowing the kindie to operate, the spira residents would have to assume some responsibility of the security arrangement and lapses

3) the security lapses caused by the guards managing kindie parents allow a house to be broken into. Who is responsible?
a. Security company
b. JMB - why? because by allowing the kindie to operate, the spira residents would have to assume some responsibility of the security arrangement and lapses

These points have not considered the traffic congestion on the 2 lane road out front. Unless parents expect the guards to open boom for them the moment they drive up and horn, which just defeats the purpose of a guarded community.

To wendy tan and lucky2, please stop considering only your convenience and spare a thought for the Spira residents who have to foot the bill and responsibility.
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How are most the G&G practicing this.

Point 1. why need to pay extra to the guard.for opening thier gates more than usual.

Point 2.correcting not JMD but the kindie itself.

Point 3.yes if the guard doing thier job well this should not happen.if happen even they will ask to make a police report.can you gurantee if the kindie leaves this will not happen.

Trafic upto the kindie to manage it and gurantee the spira residence this should not happen.

Wendy Tan

This post has been edited by Wendy Tan One: May 25 2012, 11:18 AM
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here it comes again.... good luck viola thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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@Wendy Tan One

Your reply just shows how unlearned or skewed view point you have.

If you intend to practice selective reading, I won't waste my time.

I leave you with

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/M...709-288217.html

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She said under the Childcare Act, unlicensed operators faced a fine of RM10,000 (S$4,000) or two years' jail or both.

"I hope parents will also play their part by insisting that the operators show them their licences before sending their children there," she said, adding that the operators should also be trained in basic CPR and life-saving procedures.
Your kids. Your call.
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QUOTE(zenquix @ May 25 2012, 11:28 AM)
@Wendy Tan One

Your reply just shows how unlearned or skewed view point you have.

If you intend to practice selective reading, I won't waste my time.

I leave you with

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/M...709-288217.html
Your kids. Your call.
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you very funny laa.this place not G&G that why this happened.

Wendy Tan


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