my office flooded..... whole day busy cleaning up...tns... whats with the town council??? sleep ing ka??
LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners / Fan Thread V13, Mod car not war!
LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners / Fan Thread V13, Mod car not war!
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Dec 5 2011, 03:03 PM
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my office flooded..... whole day busy cleaning up...tns... whats with the town council??? sleep ing ka??
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Dec 5 2011, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Dec 5 2011, 02:33 PM) It will pull to the side with water cause there is water resistance as compare to the side with less water. Assuming you run into a puddle of water on ur right, it will pull to the right. If you run into a pool of water that hits all wheels, depending what speed and how much water, ur car will float... hopefully still in straight line else good luck to u... If u do run into that situation.. dun brake, lift throttle little bit and remain steering pointed straight. hahaha...exactly BEBAN = Resistance ...i was searching for that word...LoL...thanks XC...too long no use english....getting rusty...sighsRain has been extremely heavier lately, even good tires will fail if u speed. Stewpik, not traction, but resistance... See ppl practice kungfu or run in the water? Why? To build up muscles as there's resistance.. and they have to push/move/run harder.. In fact u lose traction if hit puddles of water. Its momentum thats moving ur car forward and if one side pulls so much and sudden, ur car will spin. |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(miuk @ Dec 5 2011, 02:59 PM) NZH, miuk, i also don know leh, ask other user, i dont own one, hahahaI just noticed that theres a LED indicator ON for the OBD2 reader even when the car is off. Any idea whats the power draw on that device? I'm just worried if long time no start car, it'll drain my battery. |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Dec 5 2011, 03:07 PM) hahaha...exactly BEBAN = Resistance ...i was searching for that word...LoL...thanks XC...too long no use english....getting rusty...sighs sent .. boss... muahaha ... been and idiot talk to them agian.. high end quite a lot of room .. and around 4k RPM .. try to leaner out the HP curve.. so power wont KIK there. . haha |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(miuk @ Dec 5 2011, 02:59 PM) NZH, to safe the trouble of finding out....just unplug when not in use la....DUN SO LAZY.......I just noticed that theres a LED indicator ON for the OBD2 reader even when the car is off. Any idea whats the power draw on that device? I'm just worried if long time no start car, it'll drain my battery. chabutzzzzz QUOTE(qqmeng @ Dec 5 2011, 03:03 PM) my office flooded..... whole day busy cleaning up...tns... whats with the town council??? sleep ing ka?? GOOD LA....WATER CUM (SUI LEI) is good ma....b4 CNY ...more WATER CUM BETTER !!!!also CHABUTZZZZZZZZZ |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Dec 5 2011, 12:06 PM) when ONE side caught water and pull ur steering to 1 side....is NOT aquaplaning la...it means the TYRE is doing it's job .. Was about to reply this "aquaplaning" thingy that almost everyone is getting it wrong...FIZIKs - 1 side no beban ..the other side got beban ....sure the steering will move towards the side with beban ma... aquaplaning = NO beban watsoever at all..in other words....tyre already NO grip.... As accurately said by stewPik... when you feel your wheels pulling one side, it simply mean one tyre (deep in water) is turning slower due to added friction of water than the other tyre (not deep in water)... when it pulls, means BOTH tyres are sticking on the road, just that one spins slower.... When you aquaplane, you dont feel any pull or any sheet.... your steering becomes loose and your car slides and drifts as it wants.... I dont think many of you guys have felt this.... So, the CC5 is doing its job, the pulling is mainly due to the lower water displacement capabilities of if (aka pushing water out of the grooves) as the Yokos.... Nicely said, Mr stewPik....(he is rather clever actually)... Added on December 5, 2011, 3:13 pm QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 5 2011, 12:21 PM) Aiyor bro.... nothing to do with rim lah.... its yoru tyre... 15/16/19/20... actually the higher (wider) tyres... i less confidence in rain/wet condition You are right, the wider the tyre the worse grip it have.... damn hard to explain in words... ask me if you see me in TT.... if you wanna know.... (NOT ASK ME FOR MY 2TB.... This post has been edited by Poadster: Dec 5 2011, 03:13 PM |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Dec 5 2011, 03:10 PM) Was about to reply this "aquaplaning" thingy that almost everyone is getting it wrong... stewpik .. i think poadster started to like u .... As accurately said by stewPik... when you feel your wheels pulling one side, it simply mean one tyre (deep in water) is turning slower due to added friction of water than the other tyre (not deep in water)... when it pulls, means BOTH tyres are sticking on the road, just that one spins slower.... When you aquaplane, you dont feel any pull or any sheet.... your steering becomes loose and your car slides and drifts as it wants.... I dont think many of you guys have felt this.... So, the CC5 is doing its job, the pulling is mainly due to the lower water displacement capabilities of if (aka pushing water out of the grooves) as the Yokos.... Nicely said, Mr stewPik....(he is rather clever actually)... CABUTZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:13 PM
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Dec 5 2011, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Dec 5 2011, 12:39 PM) so should i pump 220 into both F/R or pump front more a bit? I thought for FR cars, we should pump more air into the front tyres. You can pump 220 front and 210 back, if you dont carry passengers at the back.... FR car need more air as the engine and driveshaft is at the front....If Aquaplane your steering won't even get pulled loh....you'll just float through like wheel lock.. |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM
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HSK .. which RPM range .. Beta rom pull faster ?
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Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 5 2011, 01:25 PM) is it? isnt it supposed to cut through water without any feeling? Nope.... if one side of the wheel have NO traction while the other side have full traction, your car will have spun.... think about it....pull one side cos one side has traction, and another side has no traction, no? yes, because there is a puddle of water there, so now got water= no beban(traction), then no water= now got traction, so will pull one side. |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Dec 5 2011, 03:10 PM) Was about to reply this "aquaplaning" thingy that almost everyone is getting it wrong... As accurately said by stewPik... when you feel your wheels pulling one side, it simply mean one tyre (deep in water) is turning slower due to added friction of water than the other tyre (not deep in water)... when it pulls, means BOTH tyres are sticking on the road, just that one spins slower.... When you aquaplane, you dont feel any pull or any sheet.... your steering becomes loose and your car slides and drifts as it wants.... I dont think many of you guys have felt this.... So, the CC5 is doing its job, the pulling is mainly due to the lower water displacement capabilities of if (aka pushing water out of the grooves) as the Yokos.... Nicely said, Mr stewPik....(he is rather clever actually)... ....anyways i've felt aquaplaning numerous times....and once ended in quite a bad crash.....the rest mayb 360 - 720 degress spin...nothing much...LoL...so yeah thats y i have a little more knowledge in this....hahaha.......... OH...and aquaplaning is more prone to happen when after rain or when it's just drizzling ......mainly because the rain has just recently washed up and brought up all the dirt and oil to the surface of the road..... |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:18 PM
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Dec 5 2011, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM) ....anyways i've felt aquaplaning numerous times....and once ended in quite a bad crash.....the rest mayb 360 - 720 degress spin...nothing much...LoL...so yeah thats y i have a little more knowledge in this....hahaha.......... OH...and aquaplaning is more prone to happen when after rain or when it's just drizzling ......mainly because the rain has just recently washed up and brought up all the dirt and oil to the surface of the road..... u earn my respect! |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM) You asks these kinda small details from HSK meh??? Blain not fully functioning yet, baru wake up ma...Seriously, I NEVER keep my eyes on the RPM meter when i drive, i mainly based my feedback on the feel of the pickup, and guesstimate the RPM based on the feel.... Pls ask XC for better description..... Oso hor, the RPW map seems ok oredi, no dips anywhere oredi..... |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(lazyboy666 @ Dec 5 2011, 03:20 PM) wow.. u got a bad crash & the rest mayb 360-720.. AND u still HAVE the BALLS OF STEAL HO HO...experience brings knowledge........more u FUCUK UP...the more WISE u are......it's not so much about BALLS now....but more about how well u can 'READ A SITUATION and REACT to it' like my father always used to say to me..u earn my respect! Drive DEFENSIVE as WELL AS OFFENSIVE !!!........ but i always preferred offence to defence....hehehe |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM) ....anyways i've felt aquaplaning numerous times....and once ended in quite a bad crash.....the rest mayb 360 - 720 degress spin...nothing much...LoL...so yeah thats y i have a little more knowledge in this....hahaha.......... OH...and aquaplaning is more prone to happen when after rain or when it's just drizzling ......mainly because the rain has just recently washed up and brought up all the dirt and oil to the surface of the road..... I have plenty of aquaplaning |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Dec 5 2011, 03:25 PM) You asks these kinda small details from HSK meh??? Blain not fully functioning yet, baru wake up ma... slight dip at 4250 rpm .. to 4500 rpmSeriously, I NEVER keep my eyes on the RPM meter when i drive, i mainly based my feedback on the feel of the pickup, and guesstimate the RPM based on the feel.... Pls ask XC for better description..... Oso hor, the RPW map seems ok oredi, no dips anywhere oredi..... Added on December 5, 2011, 3:29 pm QUOTE(Poadster @ Dec 5 2011, 03:27 PM) You FELT it leh....???? from basketball size to ping pong ball size ??I have plenty of aquaplaning just trying to help u visualize the feeling ... Chabuttzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Dec 5 2011, 03:29 PM |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(lazyboy666 @ Dec 5 2011, 03:20 PM) wow.. u got a bad crash & the rest mayb 360-720.. AND u still HAVE the BALLS OF STEAL huh??? u earn my respect! Once you have been there and done that, and for a few times, you know very well what your car can do in which situation.... thus others will see it as balls of steel, while you simply have the experience and know what can be done.... |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Dec 5 2011, 03:13 PM) i wish... but home minister watching closely with my every lil single move.... dare not even "stim" in office, if not tmr morning my kkc might gone feeding my koi .... QUOTE(Poadster @ Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM) Nope.... if one side of the wheel have NO traction while the other side have full traction, your car will have spun.... think about it.... then what about cutting the water thru like moses?? thts something gotto do with the "flower" of the tire rite? |
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