20 Most Overrated Supplements, aka useless supplements AFAIK
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 Nov 26 2011, 10:46 PM
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9,006 posts Joined: Oct 2005 From: PJ  
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Nov 26 2011, 09:08 PM) are whey hydrolysates useless , or are they equivalent to normal whey, so there's no need to pay the extra premium for it ? No need. It's a marketing gimmick. |
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Nov 28 2011, 12:58 AM
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601 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Boleh LannD~!
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if lets say currently i m not bulked up, but i need more chest and biceps, at the same time trims the flabs at the belly, should i go on a bulk up diet or weight loss diet?
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Nov 28 2011, 01:33 AM
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6,160 posts Joined: May 2008
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 28 2011, 12:58 AM) if lets say currently i m not bulked up, but i need more chest and biceps, at the same time trims the flabs at the belly, should i go on a bulk up diet or weight loss diet? so you have awesome lats, delts, triceps and leg development and only your chest and bi's are lacking? lets see some pics i wanna see this. |
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Nov 28 2011, 02:08 PM
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601 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Boleh LannD~!
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Nov 28 2011, 01:33 AM) so you have awesome lats, delts, triceps and leg development and only your chest and bi's are lacking? lets see some pics i wanna see this. nah i didnt mean it that way... dun misinterpret... what i meant was... i only wanted that area sightly bulk but not overly bulked... i know u cant control the growth of muscle, but overall, what sort of diet should i aimed at? mass gaining? or fat losing? |
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Nov 28 2011, 03:46 PM
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6,955 posts Joined: Apr 2008
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 28 2011, 02:08 PM) nah i didnt mean it that way... dun misinterpret... what i meant was... i only wanted that area sightly bulk but not overly bulked... i know u cant control the growth of muscle, but overall, what sort of diet should i aimed at? mass gaining? or fat losing? personal choice really...you can bulk now and cut later, or vice versa |
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Nov 28 2011, 04:45 PM
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2,634 posts Joined: Dec 2008
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 28 2011, 12:58 AM) if lets say currently i m not bulked up, but i need more chest and biceps, at the same time trims the flabs at the belly, should i go on a bulk up diet or weight loss diet? Your height and weight? And one thing, bodybuilding is about having a proportionate silhouette. Don't aim to just bring up a body part but your whole body altogether. |
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Nov 29 2011, 03:59 AM
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601 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Boleh LannD~!
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Weight: Approx 66kg +/- 1 - 2kg
Height: Approx. 175cm yeah thts what i m aiming at too.. proportionate silhouette, because i think i m not that tall, if i m too bulked up, i ll look short.. |
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Nov 29 2011, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 29 2011, 03:59 AM) Weight: Approx 66kg +/- 1 - 2kg Dont worry being too bulky, chances are you won't ever be too bulky. Try to go to around 70 and see if you are holding too much fat, if yes thn start cutting, if no then continue bulkingHeight: Approx. 175cm yeah thts what i m aiming at too.. proportionate silhouette, because i think i m not that tall, if i m too bulked up, i ll look short.. |
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Nov 30 2011, 01:22 AM
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1,116 posts Joined: Aug 2006 From: SP,KL
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good thread....
can add on supplements which works? |
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Nov 30 2011, 08:33 AM
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575 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: kemaman, terengganu
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 29 2011, 03:59 AM) Weight: Approx 66kg +/- 1 - 2kg bro im 173 cm and 76-77 kg. i dont look short at all.Height: Approx. 175cm yeah thts what i m aiming at too.. proportionate silhouette, because i think i m not that tall, if i m too bulked up, i ll look short.. u 175 66kg = must be skinny am i right? aim for 75 and see what u wanna do from there. continue bulk or cut. p/s chicks dig thick looking guitarist  |
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Nov 30 2011, 12:25 PM
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401 posts Joined: Sep 2010
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aaaargh! got conned by l-carnitine!
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Nov 30 2011, 01:49 PM
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1,630 posts Joined: Jul 2005
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so what are the "useful" supplements?
Without weight gainer, i'm small |
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Nov 30 2011, 03:50 PM
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1,193 posts Joined: Jul 2008
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I find weight gainer useful for filler meals especially for ectomorphs, helped me break some plateaus if taken correctly. 66kg is thin for 175cm, not proportionate.
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Nov 30 2011, 10:06 PM
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3 posts Joined: Nov 2011 From: USA
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How bout jack3d from USP Lab?
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Dec 2 2011, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Nov 30 2011, 03:50 PM) I find weight gainer useful for filler meals especially for ectomorphs, helped me break some plateaus if taken correctly. 66kg is thin for 175cm, not proportionate. im currently 65kg and 175cm. can see my belly is becoming "C" shape edi but not too obvious yet. i think its not the matter of weight to decide who's thin and who's fat. just look into the mirror n decide urself  |
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Dec 2 2011, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Dec 2 2011, 01:54 AM) im currently 65kg and 175cm. can see my belly is becoming "C" shape edi but not too obvious yet. i think its not the matter of weight to decide who's thin and who's fat. just look into the mirror n decide urself There is such a thing as being skinny-fat. |
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Dec 2 2011, 04:12 PM
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943 posts Joined: Aug 2011
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Dec 2 2011, 06:38 AM) There is such a thing as being skinny-fat. exactly. low muscle mass but high fat mass. but most people doesnt realise this and consider themselves normal based on BMI alone. wait till they check their body fat %This post has been edited by Mihawk7: Dec 2 2011, 04:15 PM |
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Dec 7 2011, 08:01 AM
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222 posts Joined: Sep 2011 From: Melaka
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Nov 26 2011, 09:08 PM) are whey hydrolysates useless , or are they equivalent to normal whey, so there's no need to pay the extra premium for it ? whey hydrolysates works or not, but i just felt, it is just a marketing strategy. dont really care bout the hydro or such , juz trial and error since everyone is different. |
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Dec 8 2011, 11:29 AM
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454 posts Joined: Nov 2008
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Nov 26 2011, 03:07 PM) imho you wont go wrong with the big four: BCAA doesn't get into the big four. Replace it with Fish Oil (EFA).1. whey protein/blend 2. multivits 3. creatine 4. bcaa myself, am taking whey atm. have tried creatine and bcaa before this. no drastic change in performance imo. had more endurance while consuming bcaa. still beginner, so no comments on your last question. |
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Dec 8 2011, 11:50 AM
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1,116 posts Joined: Aug 2006 From: SP,KL
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QUOTE(arekey @ Dec 8 2011, 12:29 PM) BCAA doesn't get into the big four. Replace it with Fish Oil (EFA). i guess it differs from person to person? |
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