Ok this is from my friend, someone that has been doing a research on Hadrurus and some other species...kept them too...and this is what he has to say :

Hadrurus needs cold winters, well, at least the American species do, especially H. spadix. It gets down to about 40 F in the winter, in the burrows, in the desert for H. arizonensis. It all depends on the collecting locality. Humidity shouldn't be too much of a problem because the scorpion burrows are quite humid, compared to the outside.

Still wanna go with it ?
Nah...

How the desert hairy look like?

I already give u a link a few pages before. In fact 2 links. use whichever u like. Hadrurus are very popular and everyone in the US knows about it. But guess like my friend says, u will need a deep tank for that guy to burrow in and have his winter season or u may have problem with him cannot moult or wat lar...

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/eycb/scorpions/Fiches1.htm
So u no need to run around looking for it.

Its a DISCLAIMER or a CARE SHEET. Do read it as it is very informational especially before you get the lil devils...U can scroll down lower and u will see a link to the care table...it states their requirement, temperature, venom potency, waterings, how they behave which i think is very useful when it comes to choosing a scorpion. Its better that you know what they need or else they might just die off after a few months...which will make u displeased. Take some time and read through. Its good info.

This post has been edited by Balthasar: Mar 7 2006, 12:21 PM

Vinegaroon and tailess whips are different.....earlier pages in this thread I've posted the pics if you wanna take a peek.... maybe 10 pages ago?

hi, can u guys point me to some attractive scorps that are non-deadly and affordable(below RM150)?

When the list arrives, i will post the names (here if they allow) and we will discuss which species to bring in. Most of them will range around there. Including the freight and permit charges. Take more to cover the other charges la.

Balthasar, could u get me an African Emperor Scorpion (Imperator Pandinus)...how much include all the costs, maybe get more...
One of my AES die of stuck during molt

This post has been edited by X-Free!: Mar 8 2006, 01:55 AM

Sad to hear that X-FREE.....

They are going for USD7 each...for the time being la. Will finalise the costing once i get the official list of species. I've asked for P.cavimanus and P.viatoris...red clawed emperors heheh dunno the price is exciting or not nia

May have problem with P.imperator as it is listed in the CITES species export list. Will try and see la. Thinkin of keeping lotsa stock of these babies...nice and sweet

The guy died in moult hmmm. could be due to lacking of humidity kua. Do u guys spray water or mist ur scorps ???
Its recommended ler...even by experts. Though weather zone is the same but we are in KL region which is basically like frying pan...

Niway, my Scorpion Tank Custom, will be out like next week or so. Now still visiting the shop guy and giving instructions. Priced lower than 100...will haggle for lower haha

This post has been edited by Balthasar: Mar 8 2006, 09:48 AM

i had mist the soil n spray on it but it doesn't work well...
i had read some articles tat said molt problem will occur if the humidity is too high or too low.....

yeah man...when u got da list...let us see huh
anyway i would like to have some buthids but then i dun think its a good idea to bring in many...and coz of that the price wont be very nice for me.
So i'd rather wait...maybe in a years time when most of us here are more experienced...we can bring in some huh. until then...lets look at other less dangerous species. hehe.

Yar yar...we wanna build a club and increase members...and not reducing the numbers...LOL

Hey X-Free, read that desert scorps will burrow to get more humid environment. So tat means the keeper will actually need to moist the sand from the bottom up...
even more complicated than the forest scorps.

Funny idea, anyone wanna go hunting for scorps ??? In the first place anyone know where to hunt for scorps ??? hahaha. Saw my first H.spinifer in butterfly park KL and my first wild one in Taman Negara...The wild bugger is nice but dun dare to touch it...twas 15 tat time

About the list, the ang moh still counting the stock la...wait a while for him to list down what they have...I've asked for Urodacus planimanus...hope they have it.
Read that Australian Lycas' are not poisonous wor...but looks like one...

Had a email conversation with the pros, so i tot i wanna share it with you guys. In terms of Forest scorpions...Pandinus spp. and Heterometrus spp.

"unless you plan on establishing an experimental
communal (they tend not to play well with others)
group of 4-6 Scorpio maurus (Scorpionidae), the size
of the enclosure below is more fitting for a breeding
group of 2-3 adult Heterometrus or Pandinus spp.
This species only rarely attains adult lengths in
excess of 60 mm (40-60 mm). DO NOT use "hot" rocks as
a heat source for scorpions! Use ambient room temps,
heating mats, heat cables, heat tape or incandescent
light bulbs. Also, if you live in a region that
experiences RH levels above 75% for most of the year,
a fog/mist machine in unnecessary.
A good "rule of thumb" for moisture-sensitive scorpion
species - if the substrate is moist and there's a
filled water bowl, they'll thrive.
All of my various Heterometrus spp. do fine with moist
substrate and a water bowl with a large surface area
(to increase the evaporative rate).
If you still need to elevate the RH a bit, simply
cover up to 80% (no more) of the enclosure lid with a
thin piece of Plexiglas or food wrap (cello-film).
This will retain a higher rate of RH within the
enclosure without having to resort to using mist
machines!
Lastly, if you have 4 aquariums running with warm
water and filters AND you live in a tropical country,
RH should not be a factor of concern.

One of the most visually stunning and impressive of
the above two mentioned genera is Heterometrus
longimanus (Herbst, 1800). This glossy jet-black,
long-clawed species is distributed in the Asiatic
region throughout Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines
and Singapore. Other good choices would be H. cyaneus,
H. laoticus and H. spinifer. Also, Pandinus imperator
(the emperor scorpion).
Other options include communal groups of Isometrus or
Lychas spp. (e.g. L. mucronatus).

Looking for H. spinifer:
Search for them within/under rotting sections of
trees, in dead standing timber, at the base of living
and dead trees, in areas with abundant ground cover,
with moist, loose soil. Try turning over surface
structure, ground litter and look for burrows"
(LUCIAN K. ROSS)

Wanna go hunting ???
Very long conversation, even with a breeder talking about mostly keeping S.maurus and Hadrurus arizonensis...and their keeping condition. Took me 10 mins to read and understand their replies.

This post has been edited by Balthasar: Mar 9 2006, 04:21 PM

The long clawed one is really beautiful

Somebody go get that!

heterometrus sp. should be easy to find in our forests.
I think withiin like 2 hours..can collect art least 10 specimens.
i dare say more than dat.
They are very abbundant in our forests.

Yeah. All you have to do actually is go to any logging site or those wood warehouses by the jungles. Its a common sight to them....You can easily fill a bucket with them. Just overturn some of the logs...

Who wanna go collect ar ? Wanna get some wild caught ones heheh.
Forest yar...but where, Selangor where got natural forest anymore ?

How bout Sungai Buloh that side? Sure got one. Doesn't have to be some virgin jungle to find them. Anyway they're more abundant than Tarantulas so it should be easier....

Say No to WC, bro!!! Please concern bout the nature....

Say No to WC, bro!!! Please concern bout the nature....
balthasar, how's ur list going?