True, buy according to needs and comfortable is most important.


Not like we are going to intentionally drop a "saga" from sky high right ?

Photo of think thank street walker pro


I have friend he own a dslr with kit lens, a flash gun, a laptop.
but he go and buy the rm600+ compurover aw

I guess that one gives quite a lot protection already

somehow i feel wan to clear the lens slot and put dry ice inside and put some cans of coke

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Added on November 23, 2011, 8:57 ambut but it is square
i m finding more casual looks and not square type..because usually that kind of bag looks sure got something electronic gadget one...which i dun like XD

but think tank retrospective series looks nice... hmm


This post has been edited by Agito666: Nov 23 2011, 09:05 AM

Thats why... it looks like cold container

No offense to any1... I felt these squarish bags makes ppl look very geek, nerdy etc...
I know this somehow doesn't matter to some/most of the people(I don't know) but I certainly not up for that...
I prefer something casual and presentable

yes, exactly. that's why not the bag got a new line like retrospective la, pro messenger la, bla bla... and i dun like that too because scare later you carry it everyday people will thinking wan to rob you because the geeky/nerdy bag looks....(because looks like got a lot nice gear to rob and sell with high price )

Aiya agito,
just buy a fold-able umbrella everything solved

you mean this?

my vanguard up-rise 46 are big...damn big, even when I ride motorcycle, it look like I have a shell on back.
look like ninja turtle

ah yeah, whats with the fresh promotion word there ?
very cheap ah ?

reason why i buy fold-able because it is compact, can fit into my A4 compartment of bag

sometimes ppl have different think...
buying a camera bag of coz i for protection...
like if buying a sling bag...
crumpler vs billingham...
i'll go for crumpler anitime...
but some will go for billingham for d look onli...
hehe...
if price is comfortable den for buyer it's ok...

I am trying to take some indoor night flash photograph.

If let say I turn to FLASH OFF mode, the ISO is 3200. If I use AUTO mode with same aperture & shutter speed , the flash will pop up and select ISO 800 (cooler colour with less noise).

On the other hand, if I use M Mode with same aperture & shutter speed, and on the flash, the ISO will not be reduced to ISO 800 and it keeps as ISO 3200.

My experiment:
1) I switched off the ISO sensitivity and select ISO 800, it provides the same effect as the AUTO mode

2) ISO sensitivity is turned back on, I used the expossure compensation -2 EV (the flash exposure compensation will follow as -2 EV) to achieve ISO 800 . The photo results is extremely warm (very orrangy and ugly)

Has anyone of you experienced the same thing? It gives me the conclusion that if you are using ISO sensitivity ON for low light portrait, AUTO mode will give a better result than M mode. Can any sifu advise? This is just my findings and very likely to be wrong!

my fold-able umbrella is 20 inches.
here is the link how it's looks like
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1104752&hl=

talk about foldable umbrella, i dun like weak foldable umbrella, that one i bought like around 2009 now still working good
just like nikon, tough body

*PS: when fold back umbrella it is automatic like big umbrella, i dun like small one had to fold the part one by one

This post has been edited by Agito666: Nov 23 2011, 10:26 AM

It takes other factors into consideration... maybe the WB u using in manual is different from what is selected by the auto mode.

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Added on November 23, 2011, 10:25 amHahahaha! Agito will never give up his umbrella. Heres an alternative, get the any bag u like and get your girlfriend to hold the umbrella for u

This post has been edited by ikki9394: Nov 23 2011, 10:25 AM

You spot it! I believe is due to WB also (though I selected AUTO WB for all), since the built-in flash is cool colour, it is not possible that the flash itself causing the colour to be warm!

Even I took photos at the beach under sunlight, if I turn on the flash, I noticed the colour will be slightly warmer but not as terrible as the test I mentioned above!

Since I am beginner here, using M mode playing with the shutter speed and aperture already keep me busy! It will be abit challenging for me to change the WB and selecting the correct ISO for every shot I take(turning off the ISO sensitivity)

Is your ISO set to auto? Because it seems here it is set by the user. If that's the case, the camera will tone down the flash output to avoid overexposure.

For your warm picture problem, change your white balance. Use custom if necessary

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Added on November 23, 2011, 10:35 amIMO, there's no need to trouble yourself with M mode. I used to use M mode myself, but nowadays I just use A or P mode. M mode caused me to lose lots of really nice moments, what with me fumbling around the light meter.

This post has been edited by pziv2: Nov 23 2011, 10:35 AM

Its not that hard to deal with the exposure, if u shooting indoor just use "pre-set" wb function and it should be suitable to shoot anywhere in that room. I dont usually use the under fluorescent or light bulb cause sometimes it makes the colour too warm or too cold.

If u shooting outdoor, just use wb for under the exposure of sunlight or cloudy.

This is what I do at least.

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Added on November 23, 2011, 10:43 amDepends on occasion really... If im shooting portraits I'll go M.
Sports, actions - aperture mode

Well since I always shoot portraits and landscapes Im always on fulltime Manual

This post has been edited by ikki9394: Nov 23 2011, 10:43 AM

b0r1nG, you familiar with SG shops? Can recommend some shops shopping for camera bags? I heard a lot of fakes and not sure if the shops reliable.

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Added on November 23, 2011, 10:50 amC'mon guys, help me with camera bags selection ><



This post has been edited by vearn27: Nov 23 2011, 10:50 AM

if the bag got this thingy then i will instant buy lol...can hang a long stick at outside


oh shiat i got poisoned with lower pro messenger 200 AW...
seems the rear part of the bag is a big pocket that i can stuff my umbrella on that.

because this picture also mislead me that i cant stuff my umbrella on that part...i duno there got zip can seal bottom part and become a pocket


and here is my current laptop bag (that time bought for put umbrella and ipad)
and the strap there always keep hitting umbrella and makes the handle worn off
(repost back picture for better imagination )

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Added on November 23, 2011, 10:56 ambumberbee looks nicer among other mobile-fridge-looks-bags

ya lor i need to tell my colleague go which part of SG to see bag too.

This post has been edited by Agito666: Nov 23 2011, 10:56 AM

Why not you DIY or get something for add-on that could allow you to hang your umbrella like that? ==i

Bumblebee ah... Preferring not Kata.

i dun think normal needle can poke though this bag lol...looks thick enough

What does the no.3 mean?

For the pro messenger, yes. There are zip at bottom to make it a pocket.
Look at this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xME6Mqpevo8&feature=related
The guy fit in a macbook into the pocket.
Oh... I just love how firm the straps look.

no.3 originally wan use something to stitch it and make it become a big pocket lol... i duno there got zip until just now search the overview video from youtube