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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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post Jan 17 2012, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(ricstc @ Jan 17 2012, 02:40 AM)
Sold a 1000sq feel freehold condo in Cyberjaya in 2011. RM250K. Today saw it being sold at RM270K. Price going up for sure though it really depends on the big WHERE
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then u lost 20k within 1 year..
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post Jan 17 2012, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Seremban_Guy123 @ Jan 17 2012, 10:28 AM)
How much should be reasonable one?  brows.gif
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min 300k
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post Jan 17 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(prody @ Jan 17 2012, 12:19 PM)
One major difference is that last time the property prices here hadn't gone up a lot yet.
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yes.. i agree.. kl already up 50%++.. must give some chance to others place, especially cyberjaya. jump 50% is normally.
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post Jan 17 2012, 05:35 PM

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as long as the rental enuf to cover the loan... the house will be stagnant. if the other s way, then expected crash 10 - 20%...
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post Jan 18 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Jan 18 2012, 12:23 PM)
why need majority people to support? msia still has many rich ppl. there are also many msian who earn big bucks in oversea supporting msia prop market.  their income is almost 5x of msia. the water jsut flow to lower level (msia prop price is still low). most of these ppl eventually will return to msia to contribute to the economy. working or spending.
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support not nessary mean to own the house, but to pay the rental (support the rental)... with over supply of house u think the tenant will not runaway to find the cheaper prop nearby to rent later on..
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post Jan 19 2012, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 19 2012, 01:07 AM)
The actual situation is banks want to lend, just BNM want to impose stricter rule to prevent bubble forming.
GDP is 5% or 3%, both also show positive growth, forget the property price is pegged to GDP growth figure?  tongue.gif

Yes, no doubt, it is impossible to see price up 30-50% anymore, highly this year is a correction year.
But don't forget we are along being threaten by inflation, and inflation is the one can support property price.
On one hand, economy slowing down.
On one hand, inflation is everywhere.

One negative, one positive, neutralize.
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the global is heading to deflation these years.... the commodity price will be stagnant.
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post Jan 19 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 19 2012, 11:34 AM)
Deflation?
I don't buy this story on the media.
If said business become slower and less volume/revenue, yes, this is the true picture, but not on the deflation for consumer.

Oil price is staying at elevated level, above USD100, so does copper, silver, gold, even CPO staying comfortable around RM3000.
Look at CPI, PPI number, all point to the inflation especially in emerging countries.
China despite showing lower CPI number, it is still a hot number of 4~5%, just not as severe as previous around 6%.

With central banks across the globe prefer growth over the inflation control, cheap interest, massive QE, I fail to see how can deflation occur.
Price paid by consumers keep on escalating only.
Where is the deflation?
I only know money become smaller, and price only up, no down.
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-0.000000001% deflation still consider deflation right..
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post Jan 19 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Jan 19 2012, 12:55 PM)
Where can I get 400K 1 storey terrace house in TTDI?
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i think ur 400k can buy 2 small bedrooms only...

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post Feb 9 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Feb 9 2012, 11:09 AM)
It means Malaysia Gov are still clueless on how to tackle the issue compare with others countries, still got chance to go up laugh.gif
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busy elect..n lah i dun think they c are...
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post Feb 10 2012, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Feb 10 2012, 11:06 PM)
Where do you get the data? Waitress in HK is not earning as much as RM5000 a month.
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as i know police in hk is earning hk$20,000 ++
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post Feb 11 2012, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 11 2012, 03:04 PM)
Previously few years of properties surge has showed, rental rate did not catch up with the pace of higher prop price.

Somehow, higher prop price may not necessary push up rental rate much, in fact, a lot of time send the yield even lower only.

For real eg.
A properties that worth 500k 4 years ago, rental is about RM2.5k.
Now it worth roughly 850k, rental is about RM2.8~Rm3k. Rm3.5k also hard to get.
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yes.. but this is only for newcomer... for those who bought at 500k will enjoy the fruit of become landlord.. the tenant will scare of late payment as their rental become "cheap".
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post Feb 12 2012, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(ayha2009 @ Feb 11 2012, 10:45 PM)
Kindly provide more specific detail whether you are referring to inspector, head of hk police etc...
Are we also compare waitress of 5 star hotel salary or hawker waitress salary?
No wonder this forum is so long lasting.
Can provide any reports from reknown research company?
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no source last... i hear some bosses who got biz in hk said lah.... normal police man just work 2 - 3 years... carry pistol or not i dun know... as they hardly shooting, not like wat u see in the movie.. hehe

i tot, fresh graduate in hk should earn hk$20,000 as well ??? this is wat i know about 10year ago d...

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post Feb 12 2012, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Feb 12 2012, 02:30 PM)
Current sentiment from Aunties corner.:- tongue.gif

Price of property gonna go up. cos..
More foreign invester are starting to buy properties in Malaysia and Singapore due to Malaysia's and Singapore's "bencana alam's" possibility.
Australia - flood "possibility of inland sea,
Indonesia - earthquake and tsunami
Thailand - flood (next round) possibily May
China - eathquake and pollution
Japan - tsunami earthquake and radiation.
India, Vietnam - developing but not chic enough
Malaysia and Singapore, - best in this region.

What do you think.. hmm.gif
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this i agreed..

malaysia still the best if compare to sg....
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post Feb 13 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(bluecoat @ Feb 13 2012, 01:57 AM)
Yup , for those hope market crash , eventually will affect himself. Y not pray for market grow steady.
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in another word, bubble streadily.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 14 2012, 03:15 PM)
Sometimes I just wonder why some of the people just don't keep an open mind, when they are blinded by their own sets of assumptions. How sure are you with the 10% deduction ? Everything has an action and a reaction and here you are speculating for a PRICE REDUCTION,  it is not even a prop market slower growth or something milder ..... How sure are you for a PRICE REDUCTION is a what I am challenging.

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no matter how many % gomen deduct,,, the loser still middle class, winner will be businessman... they can just avoid it.. dun declare or transfer the liability to consumers.

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post Feb 14 2012, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Feb 14 2012, 04:24 PM)
More simple way of thinking is: more money spent on healthcare means less money spent on properties.
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not really... i think 1C, like socso kind of thing... but wat socso benefit to us as majority... the beneficial/staff... earn big $$$, still BBBB. just $$$ transfer from 1 party to another..... tis we call wealth transfer by law.

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post Feb 14 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Feb 14 2012, 04:58 PM)
Not talking about what 1Care is, just talking about what the simple result will be if it is implemented and if the middle class needs to pay 10% of salary.
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let said salary RM3k.. with just only 1% pay to them.. RM30.. everyday u lost 1 cup of teh tarik.
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Feb 14 2012, 06:07 PM)
expenses can be allocate from one to another, 10% expense more for A but can be cut down 10% from B, less entertainment, drink, eat mix rice instead of paparich, holiday to Taiwan instead of Japan etc....
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your guess/conjecture are quite accurate!!
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mean lower down the standard of living.... laugh.gif

later on instead of eat mixed rice.... eat maggie mee. sweat.gif

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post Feb 15 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Feb 15 2012, 01:46 PM)
As predicted previously, prices have started to decline.

The Malaysian House Price Index
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icon_question.gif which page is said so..
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Feb 15 2012, 04:40 PM)
Look like Q3 2011 house price showing sign of slowing down especially under Selangor & terrace house.
but only as Preliminary study. Clearer picture will be on Q4 2011 & Q1 2012 on the trend up or down.
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if & if only lah :-
Q4 2011 --> Down
Q1 2012 --> Down
Q2 2012 --> Down
Q3 2012 --> Down
Q4 2012 --> More ppl will declare b....upcy



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