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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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post Dec 20 2011, 07:51 PM

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i think now negro play a very important role in determine ur prop in ur taman/condo is up or down or even crash.... imagine just one house occuppy by "them" in the condo... how many potential tenant/buyers will runaway.
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post Dec 21 2011, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Dec 21 2011, 12:54 AM)
Dun judge too early, keep yr statement for 3 years, look back in 2014, you may be wrong.
At least I know during 2008 US Crisis, those blur blur idiots who listened to sales agent and park theirs' money in property are laughing all the way to the bank now....
Unlike stock mkt, Real Estate is bout dealing with tangible goods, the supply of raw materials and land is tend to diminish and price / cost of goods is likely to be on upward trend...
IMO the only factor that will cause property price to drop is the loosen of bank loan approval, over leveraging is a risky move. Generally I feel that Malaysia banks are still very conservative and "kiasi", this helps to cool the mkt down a bit. My China engineer friend (salary RMB15K) can purchase 4 units of apt worth RMB 5.8 mil back in 2007 (maximum loan), they can factor in the future rental income into theirs' "current" salary (unbelievable!)!
Hard to imagine if this happen in bolehland, the recent China mkt's correction is largely due to aggressive lending by financial institutions cool.gif
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then? wat will happen in 2012 and 2013..... hmm.gif
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post Dec 21 2011, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 21 2011, 11:09 AM)
read back also no point since there's no similarity in situation of debt and salary. Probably you should read property crash in other country.
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the prop now is stagnant. the correction is anytime soon... the prop listed in iprop at 6 months ago at same listing price tag still listed there till now with same listed price... no buyer.

after ge... will expected some sales... if hot $$ gone and move back to usa with their prop rebound from lowest is expected.... dun think there are many so call local rich ppl can support the huge correction...




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post Dec 21 2011, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Dec 21 2011, 11:30 AM)
rclxms.gif Good good!
The most critical part of investment is not how much gain that one could make fr a single investment, but more of avoiding huge loss during downtime, smart investor knows how to minimize his risk (cut loss) during bearish and ride on mkt uptrend to make his kill.
Stock analyst depends on historical data to plot technical chart in order to assist future prediction, if you dun learn fr past experience, how are you going to hv right forecast of the future?  hmm.gif
P/s : I read a lot of mkt crash news nod.gif
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one word "Holding-power" must be strong, short term 2-3 yrs. long term 10 yrs.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 21 2011, 11:49 AM)
silly question ar... if everyone "Holding Power" strong as many here reported either cash rich or properties rich, where got properties crash hor?  whistling.gif
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yes... right... no many ppl can affort to minus off from their monthly income 2k for over 30 years.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Dec 21 2011, 12:25 PM)
u mean subsale or new project? new project like baju @ pandan jaya, i heard sell like hot cakes wo.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Dec 21 2011, 12:29 PM)
ic, which area? it is near town one or further up like cyberjaya?
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post Dec 27 2011, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 27 2011, 02:45 AM)
The more people talk about price can crash, the chance of it crash become low.

The crash often come when most people cannot forsee it.

This is always repeating and proven.

Because when more people wary or cautious crash may around the corner, it means those people are out of excessive speculation.
It is always excessive speculation that causing the bubble and lead to crash afterwards.

I will deeply worry if no one talk about crash, and everyone said BBB.
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yes.. the prop will jump at less 20% next year... hehe.. pls BBBBBBBBBB nod.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 27 2011, 03:34 PM)
What so fear about crash?
Stock market, property market did crash many many time before, not the first time already.
People talk about crash until bored already, so mark your word so that become Malaysia version of Peter Schiff or Dr. Doom?&nbsp;  biggrin.gif
As said before or what I posted earlier, one day, you will be right.

When subprime exploded and financial crisis unfolded, people said "died liao", going to be deflation and economy recession for many many years,
yet after massive stimulus package around the globe, for the period form 2009-2010-early 2011, factories order flooding in until not enough man-power to cope the order.
The one believed the dooms day coming during the crisis, retrench all the workers, sell factories, due to fear of dooms day, were the biggest losers.
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i think it will be best become loser compare you lose the hard earn $$... anyway food/transportation/apparel still important beside house (definately) for day to day expenses..

tq

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post Dec 27 2011, 11:24 PM

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http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/27/real_estate/home_prices/

Home prices down for 6th straight month

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post Dec 28 2011, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(R o Y @ Dec 28 2011, 10:03 PM)
2012 marks the end of the world according to the Mayan calander. Property price will be cheaper after that =)
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hehe...

like wat cherroy said.. the more to discuss the topic it would't happen...

y2k many ppl believe.. so no happen.... BUT, 2012 many dun believe.... hmm.gif
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post Dec 29 2011, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 28 2011, 10:58 PM)
strategy remain the same(location, location, location), only greedy flipper overlook it jer sweat.gif


Added on December 28, 2011, 9:59 pm
ya lor
For me,
better come fast since all die together, less worry get old biggrin.gif
Die is least of my worry, the longer we live, the more problem we face
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i m sure u still single.. family man with children never wanted this to happen.
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post Dec 30 2011, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(tigana @ Dec 30 2011, 08:51 PM)
Please remember, this may not have been bought by a property investor. In fact I don't think so. If its for own stay, the buyer could be motivated for a number of reasons - near other family, or lots of cash to throw around or money laundering smile.gif

I think this is the house that was sold. The description and price is almost the same. But stated as a 2.5 storey.

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k_House_ForSale

also by Fiona Fong from Kim Realty and for RM1,780,000.
so from the pictures - worth it or not?
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Is Intermediate unit, i think the original price is RM900k from developer in 2007 and owner may dump in 300k for the reno.. so after minus the interest.. i think the owner maybe earn rm500k within 3 years.

i dun think is worth it... laugh.gif
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post Dec 31 2011, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(mellomm @ Dec 31 2011, 08:18 PM)
Interesting articles on property slowdown in 2012 on www.starproperty.my
Consensus outlook is slowdown n impact on dibs buyer schemes. So wats ur decisions. Hold if u can. But as more property gets completed by 2013 u may be just too late. This is hard. So wat to do. The smart developers have our money. They know money is king now.
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many are trapped. laugh.gif

richman is not equivalent with smart man ALL the TIMES... etc... Many founder of public listed company already resign from their position as ceo/md... got too many example due to their wrong decision making... the guy who bought 1.78mil prop actually is nothing and worhtless to discuss further...


now the guru are goreng about the bubble???? rclxub.gif

http://swhengtee.com.my/swhengtee-news/201...orecast-seminar

Investors may not be aware that the 2012 Budget has a great impact on the property market. The focus of property investment will shift. What was traditionally profitable to invest in has turned otherwise, and possibly into a bubble. So what are the best to invest in?
As the World Economy and market is expected to experience great changes next year, what are the strategies to apply in property investment? Let Gavin share with you his 2012 investment strategies....Don't miss it!





my 2 cents.

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post Jan 1 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 1 2012, 11:43 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
I understand I understand  notworthy.gif

You mean if..given a same location,
22'x75 single story shd fecth same price = 22'x75 2-storey = 22'x75' 3-storey etc...
Gd thought  rclxm9.gif

If you dun agree, do you mind to share how to calculate the 2-storey and 3-storey house price if single storey is selling for 100K?  notworthy.gif
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ground floor = 100k
2nd floor = 50k
3rd floor = 50k

OK..
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post Jan 6 2012, 09:10 AM

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wake up loh.... fund is fun.... stop loh... pls back to property discussion. tq.
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post Jan 6 2012, 11:16 AM

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the prop market is stagnant as what this property talk discussion relect without update for prop market -- STAGNANT
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post Jan 6 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Jan 6 2012, 05:25 PM)
u dun really understand cash rich ppl. some cash rich ppl cant even count how many prop they owned.

as per the expenses u mentioned, their accountant will show only misc and they dun even bother to look at.  they oni look at big numbers..
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they cannot count bcos too old... memory already no good... the the day d. time to let go the prop to nex gen.. heritage.


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post Jan 9 2012, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Jan 9 2012, 06:17 PM)
stupid analogy reported by BT to link GDP with lipstick sales....

might as well use condom sales as economic indicator....WTF!!
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better use "wai kor"
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post Jan 10 2012, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(brother love @ Jan 9 2012, 11:03 PM)
I really worried about greece...Everytime its a different story, sometimes looks going to be ok, yesterday again on the way defaulting..
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/business...-euro-risk.html

the uncertainty will double up after US election at end of the year.

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