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 Astro B.yond Episode IV (Version 9.0), The New World of Entertainment

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post Apr 23 2012, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 23 2012, 04:26 PM)
nobody wants it with 5 minute delay!
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I thought the 5 minute delay is SKMM's fault?

This is the main reason SKMM must be reformed and censorship must be abolished. To put things in the word of TM: It's the broadband age, it's not the stone age. You delay the signal also no use, people will get the news from Internet. Even if you censor the internet, information can still come in through many other different means.

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QUOTE(krel89 @ Apr 23 2012, 05:29 PM)
when will all programs in Media Prima and RTM in HD?? i heard TV AL-Hijrah has HD program?? is it true?? then where the HD channel??

sad right when they don't want to cooperate with each other to broadcast in HD?
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Yeah. Very sad. Still, hopefully Digital will launch this year. Once T2 has been chosen, Media Prima, Al Hijrah and WBC will be pressured to follow.

QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 23 2012, 05:52 PM)
Yes (TV promo on http://www.youtube.com/user/tvahpromo ) and it's said that TV AL-Hijrah only starting HD airing on 2015.
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Well, they can't air HD in Analog without transmitting in either MUSE (16:9 1080i Analog! In the 80s! The Japanese people are crazy geniuses!) or even at very least SECAM L (816x737, 819 lines). Number of Multi-System TVs that can receive SECAM L is very low, and there are practically no MUSE sets in Malaysia (save for those specially brought in for display by certain showrooms). And both format are pretty much dead anyway.

And of course, SKMM won't let them transmit in the systems anyway.

QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 23 2012, 06:27 PM)
Astro of course to enable censorship! brows.gif
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I was told by a former sssteruk engineer that assteruk actually has no right to censor the signal tho- the best they can do is black out the transmission, and ensure the feed is censored from source (i.e. Fox, Star, etc. has to provide them with an already censored feed). That probably explains why there's a Malaysia-specific feed for some of the channels, if not the channel open a branch in Malaysia and transmit locally (i.e. Disney. Wikipedia says the Disney feed assteruk is getting is actually locally transmitted from a dedicated center in KLCC independent of Disney Asia. That probably explains the amount of local crap on the channel).

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post Apr 24 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Apr 23 2012, 09:15 PM)
Not entirely true... look at MTVAsia.. very severely censored... Fox Movies Premium, took off the entire UFC that should have been live... and not even the 1 hour delayed version was shown... then they pandai2 replace that event slot with some old movie (you will be able to spot old movies when throughout the movie, no movie title displayed on the right)
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hmmm, I assume that there's an MTV Asia Malaysia feed? if not, anyone want to anonymously write in to the channel? hmm.gif not sure if Assteruk's contract wording has changed, since I last talked to that ex-employee back in 1998.

QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Apr 23 2012, 11:14 PM)
nothing fancy bro... its just upscaled CN with pillar boxes all the time... measat 3 carries them now lol.
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What about shows animated in 16:9? Do they trim off the sides too? Since afaik, Strawberry Shortcake Berry Bitty Adventures is 16:9 native.

As for assteruk, again, tak payah harap if it's not sukan or drama Kantonis/Hokkien. Assteruk does not care about the children. Hope TM and/or Maxis will pick it up tho- Again, Strawberry Shortcake is big among kids and adult women alike (and for some men too). If they do not secure the channel just for this show, they're missing out on good money.

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 24 2012, 05:40 PM)
Nice Standard. drool.gif  rclxms.gif
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What frequency? Can't find it on 658 or 674...

And Is it T1?
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Apr 24 2012, 09:14 PM)
RAMChYLD - MTV Asia on Astro is a delayed feed from the SEA beam (after censorship etc.)... 8-)
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Ow. So, assteruk is playing dirty and breaking their contract behind MTV's back?

I thought ours is a local MTV Malaysia feed. Again, because Disney has set up local broadcast site and assteruk is getting the feed from them instead of the the real Disney Asia now. In other words, Disney is now practically "in-house" to assteruk, and I thought they were doing that with a lot of other channels.

QUOTE(chuppachop @ Apr 24 2012, 09:14 PM)
Also, Comedy Central Asia is coming by mid or end of the year. NO updates yet whether it's SD or HD.....inside news... 8-)
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Comedy Central, I don't think it we can hope for it to show up in Malaysia unless SKMM (and gomen) reform. Given that the old generation are mostly one-tracked mind and will bising whenever there's mention of ganja (seriously. The Power Rangers fiasco was extremely embarrassing. Especially since the spelling is so different and "Morphing" truly has a innocent meaning. They might as well ban Matrix for having Morpheus, Morpheus P2P, Stoik Morphman and Kai's Morph), alcohol, sex, etc, the channel doesn't stand a chance. Especially with South Park which is Comedy Central's main draw. And the gomen will always listen to the old generation because those are the ones running the so-called "moral NGOs" like JAIS.

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Apr 24 2012, 09:40 PM)
Bleh.. comedy central would be severely censored, don't think a single south park would be shown... even current mtv's beavis and butthead show, all are censored and replaced with mtv hits... zzz just like the same with mtv celebrity deathmatch... all being replaced with mtv non stop hits back then...
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Well, I think there's no chance this channel will ever show up in Malaysia unless miracles happen. Heck, their competition Adult Swim is already available in Asia for a few years (notably, The Philippines has it). But is Malaysia getting it?

QUOTE(chuppachop @ Apr 24 2012, 09:50 PM)
oh....didn't realized that Disney Channel MAL has a dedicated feed......for SIN, the Disney Channel trailers has MAL/PHIL & THAI/WIB times.....so I had the impression that Starhub was transmitting the same MAL feed.....seems like ths SIN feed had some similar programs with the MAL feed.

Certain cable networks has dedicated MAL feed due to various reasons like copyrights of programs, viewing habits, censorship etc. So far looks like Disney, beTV, ONE (Malay) and HBO MAL are dedicated feed.....
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Well, that's according to Wikipedia lah. Apparently they switched to a local feed since 2008. Though the other entries in the page are blatant lies (TM does NOT have Disney, and it's not available in HD on assteruk), I'm inclined to believe that part about Malaysia's dedicated feed because Disney now has all sort of local crap, and the live action segments between shows is hosted by Malaysians.

QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Apr 24 2012, 10:02 PM)
what frequency bro?... scanning the whole spectrum is tiring...
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I want to know too. I scanned the spectrum manually (took 10-15 minutes) and can't find it. Is it even DVB-T1? Since T1 receivers cannot pick up T2 signal (but all T2 tuners are mandated to have T1 BC and thus can receive T1 signal).

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 25 2012, 09:34 AM)
thanks pal, tongue.gif Awards? no big deal in malaysia anyway!
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Putra brand? Never heard of 'em.

QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:39 AM)
I've seen myself the Disney Channel version on Thailand's True Visions (satellite pay-tv in Thailand which operating on the similar ways as Astro)... And I can see that Thailand version is similar on what we have in Malaysia (Astro), with all of those Upin Ipin, Disney Waktu Rehat and Boboiboy. But all of the programs only available in English as well as Thai language and subtitle (for 7.30pm movies).  Perhaps True Visions also take the Malaysia Disney Channel feed and aired it on their pay-tv service.
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I suspect the center all will either take signal from Asia feed and inject their own segments and change certain programming as needed, or all centers have their own set of programming and need to synchronize with the schedule provided by HQ. Apparently many Asian countries have their own Disney feed/center now. So even Singapore Disney is not pure Disney Asia anymore. They're apparently trying to localize the channel for each country. Only country so far without a localized Disney Channel is apparently The Philippines (pure Asia feed) and Brunei (apparently share with Malaysia thanks to assteruk controlling their market as well)

Edit: Apparently made a Mistake. According to Wikipedia: Singapore, Malaysia, and Philippines have own Disney feed for the country. Thailand and Indonesia is getting pure Disney Asia feed.

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 25 2012, 11:42 AM)
I just checked the board of putra awards and I concluded how and why asstro was selected. hmm.gif
http://www.aaaa.org.my/activities/2011acti..._governors.html
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post Apr 26 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Apr 26 2012, 01:17 AM)
LOL... this is interesting... but sg is very open la.. their mtvasia, anything naked but blurred also screen, pole dancing etc not bothered to edit off, unlike astro here... dunno which poyoh editor enjoys censoring almost anything...
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That's why should boikot assteruk and criticize SKMM kau-kau...

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Apr 26 2012, 10:49 AM)
I think the root cause here is the gov, requesting so much requirement on the programming attributes etc... why cant they apply that to free to air only? Pay tv is exactly the same as the scenario of us buying a dvd/bluray... we should expect uncensored scenes and language, and of course at higher audio video quality... not some overcompressed shit. And parents should be responsible on their kid's viewing with regards to pay tv channels... not complaining to astro to censor things for their ease....
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Exactly. I agree with you on this 100%.

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 27 2012, 09:29 PM)
Hopes are high... brows.gif
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Too high. Hopes are high but rollout is nonexistent...

Fail!
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QUOTE(smileguy @ May 2 2012, 11:35 AM)
Very soon Mr.Rise wll rise to defend and support  asstro,perhaps another award!? hmm.gif
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This is why we don't want people like him running SKMM.

This censor, that censor.

*checks* nope, still haven't forgiven him implementing Internet censorship! vmad.gif mad.gif

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If ABN launches. They've went quiet again...
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QUOTE(smileguy @ May 7 2012, 09:10 AM)
Astro's dirty tactics,my friends all got calls to upgrade,so the free thing was a  customer recruitment excercise.!Beyond offered with 6 months contract!


Added on May 7, 2012, 9:12 am
Really, they hv no more space for own use!Near  future no more new channels! tongue.gif
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I agree! Don't fall for assteruk's dirty tricks people!

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 7 2012, 09:11 PM)
if they had on demand style like unifi...
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They can, but it requires that the decoder has satellite networking capability with enough bandwidth to stream HD. Assteruk's decoder cannot do that. IPTV? As long as assteruk is arrogant and won't let IPTV work on anything other than Time BB...

Actually, you can do on-demand using satellite using DVB-RCS and satellite networking (it's possible to deliver 20mbps HD IPTV over satellite too). Assteruk just too greedy for profit that they dun want to implement the infrastructure.

QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 7 2012, 09:11 PM)
and with tm having jeremy kung developing iptv... all i can say is... its a pin to astro's iptv grave... he was the one who developed hong kong's now tv...
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Right, but there's one problem with TM's IPTV (I refuse to call this HyppTV because HyppTV does not have all the channels the STB has) is that the rollout is too slow because of lousy contractors and TM being too shortsighted to see the need to rollout fast.

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QUOTE(krel89 @ May 8 2012, 06:18 AM)
i also heard "rumors" that astruk maybe available in landlines in September cooperate with tm.. but it just a rumors right??
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Never heard those rumors. But if it happens most likely it's TM being forced to cooperate with assteruk instead by idiot "rice"

QUOTE(smileguy @ May 8 2012, 06:26 AM)
Astro First and ABO is a waste, people dont know they are watching a shortened,distorted version of the movie,but sad to see there are people supporting it!
Agreed.

QUOTE(smileguy @ May 8 2012, 06:26 AM)
About the radio to me it does not make sense too,who wants to listen to thier crap on HTS.
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Well, they do have some channels on radio that is worth listening (i.e. Classic Rock and Golden Oldies). But imo, those should be put on FM. If FM no place, AM also okay. Because Oldies and Classic Rock should be free like in Singapore.

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QUOTE(smileguy @ May 8 2012, 08:02 PM)
Yes this minister, NEVER walked the talk, maybe he wl say "kerajaan setuju untuk lanjutan masa......." brows.gif then we wl hv the usual election trailers of BN running very soon on all ass channels  rclxms.gif
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Assteruk has always been breaking promises. As I mentioned before, an assteruk ex-engineer I've met once told me that assteruk has no rights to tamper with the incoming feed as it's a violation of the contracts with the providers. And yet assteruk censor MTV, censor news (BBC's anger was understandable, assteruk wasn't supposed to tamper with their feed as per the contract), advertisements injected into the signal, etc.

Assteruk has been playing dirty for years, and not only they're allowed to get away with it, they're practically given "protection" from competitors and given rights to monopolize channels (i.e. ensure channels they're carrying cannot be carried on competing networks) by the gomen. This has to stop.

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ May 10 2012, 10:05 AM)
1.  is it correct for me to attribute the fault to the cables or there is no such thing?
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Many factors can play a part in this, but by right signal from dish to decoder is digital, and for digital there's no such thing as subtle degradation quality- usually it's can get or cannot get only, and if it's poor connection the signal will fluctuate madly, so picture will be erratic.

Technically, there is no such thing as snow/noise, shadowing and wavy image in digital signal. However you can get intermittent errors like part of image didn't update, image corruption and audio squeak and squeals due to poor connection.

I'd advise checking to see if your power supply is stable, TV not near interference-generating equipment like Microwave Oven, Handphone, any motorized equipment or WiFi router, and making sure your TV is connected to decoder by HDMI and not analog (Baeyong doesn't output HD in Component anyway due to "analog sunset").

QUOTE(aressandro10 @ May 10 2012, 10:05 AM)
2. is there a way to measure the quality of picture we are seing?
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Use the satellite signal measurement meter on the decoder. If readout is lower than before, then you know something isn't right.

QUOTE(aressandro10 @ May 10 2012, 10:05 AM)
3. is the IP tv service availble yet?
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If you have Time BB in your area, yes. Otherwise, you're SOL.

QUOTE(smileguy @ May 10 2012, 06:03 AM)
Where in the Klang Valley? Puchong only? That isn't the whole of Klang Valley! shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(smileguy @ May 11 2012, 06:09 AM)
Unifi ? Maxis has overtaken from behind!!They are too slow,and slow players wl lose out.These new players wl definately make things uncomfortable  for asstro,good cool days are over,its time assto removes HD fees,PVR fees and reduce RM50 at least for all SPs hmm.gif
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Well, IMO, no, Assteruk is still comfortable. Unless fiber rollout speed is increased to rival that of Thailand (they manage to rollout fiber to cover whole nation in a matter of months! Here we are at the second year and it's still only many (not all) towns of West Peninsula Malaysia! Even Georgetown in Penang dun have, only Bayan Lepas!), Assteruk will still enjoy being in the lead. Also, from what I heard, due to some stupidity by TM some areas will never get fiber rollout (i.e. Industrial parks where internet usage is supposedly low. Nevermind that high-tech industries like R&D labs need blazing fast fiber HSBB to conduct business- it's like gomen is trying to discourage formation of high-tech industries).

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 13 2012, 12:19 PM)
I don't think it'll work that way... laugh.gif
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I actually once connected an assteruk decoder to a coil of unshielded cable (you know, cable meant to carry electricity) with a MegaTV pigtail antenna on the other end and it's signal bar started fluctuating laugh.gif so maybe it's a YMMV case.

Actually tho, it's quite possible to do that, but expect the signal bar to be not very high and intermittent signal lost problem with HD signal. Problem is antenna grade cable is slightly thinner than satellite grade cable, and thus prone to signal loss. Also, antenna grade cable is unshielded compared to satellite grade cable, means it's prone to picking up interference.



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