Correct. Standard antenna cable is unshielded. The differences between satellite cable and standard antenna cable is that satellite signal cable core (the single-strand part in the center of the cable) is not slightly thicker, there's also a layer of aluminum shield between the core and ground. Standard antenna cable don't have that aluminum shield and thus pick up interference as well as suffer signal degradation.

As I said before, it is plausible, but you will maybe suffer signal degradation.

Still worth trying tho. On normal (non-baeyong) decoder the degradation is not too bad in my experience. Before I install baeyong iirc my cabling is half satellite cable, half antenna cable because difficult to get the needed satellite cable and I wanted to extend the cable from the hall into my room.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 14 2012, 03:07 PM

bae yong = roughly Hokkien for "Cannot use" or "useless"

I coined the term because I feel that Assteruk is useless for me- their HD contents doesn't please me, I'm one of the minorities interested in neither bola sepak nor chinese drama, and I've been disappointed by their channel choices.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 15 2012, 10:11 AM

Maybe that's where their satellite rental (I remember they announced deal to rent bandwidth from Thaicom? Correct me if I'm wrong) will come into play- use rented satellite to transmit Olympic, then once done, terminate contract.

It still comes down to this. Why they want to trap existing customers with extended contract? Of course laa scard of them leaving left and right! People already wised up to Assteruk's tricks and despite their attempt to cover up, it's already well known that a lot of people terminated. Quoting the old song from The Who: Won't get fooled again. So they use tricks like NoJOI and free PVR upgrade to make what's left extend their contracts with them.

Exactly my thoughts too!

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 15 2012, 02:23 PM

Well, I don't need it Klang town is very strategic in that all the UHF transmitters (KL Tower and Genting Highlands) are in line of sight and one well positioned UHF antenna is enough to pick up from both where Analog and Digital is concerned. Just need a second VHF antenna pointed towards Sungai Besi for RTM1 and 2 and that covers all analog channels.

Also...

Yeah. Very fed up with FTA channels. They dropped too many shows mid-season and never bring in new seasons of shows I like that I'm very PO'ed by them already. Plus, very pissed off when I tuned into Lilo and Stitch the Series on TV2 one morning and found that they've translated it to Malay. I dun understand the practicality of that action

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 16 2012, 05:30 AM

I can confirm it's not going to work, at least not without a HDCP remover in the middle (*cough*HDFury2*cough*). Blackmagic Intensity does not support HDCP encryption. Take it from someone who attempted to experiment on this when baeyong first came out.

There's another card out that supports HDCP- AVerMedia HD-DVR iirc. Not sure if it's available in Malaysia tho- I hear people say it's available, but I can't find one personally. However, from what I read it's HDCP support isn't much of an improvement- it allows Assteruk to display on the computer (compare to black screen with message "Copy Protection Failed" on a Blackmagic Intensity) but attempting to record will result in the "Copy Protection Failed" error.

Like Chikana said you can still record from analog with HD signal downsampled to SD tho, which is a somewhat acceptable compromise for me. Which is still somewhat better than TM's IPTV (even analog SD is Macrovision protected )

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 16 2012, 03:33 PM

You need to use a video capture card that capture HD in component analog like Intensity Pro, HD-PVR or HD-DVR and combine with HDFury2. Direct HDMI never try since I don't have access to AVerMedia HD-DVR, but most likely is all channels marked as cannot record.

Standalone HD PVR, afaik the only thing is BD recorder, which I think only available in Japan, accepts 60Hz signals only, records only through HDMI and adheres by HDCP protection signal anyway (i.e. useless because assteruk, as mentioned above, most likely tags all channel as cannot record).

Mac City iirc is a distributor for Blackmagic products in Malaysia so you can order it from them (don't worry, they won't ask if you have a Mac Pro before selling it to you). HDFury3... you need to order online. It's also quite expensive as to discourage misuse, so think carefully.

Disclaimer so any killjoy who read this dun go out and ban the device: like all devices, HDFury3 can be used for both good and evil- the good use is to convert VGA or component port to HDMI in case you run out of connectors on the back of your TV (seriously! Some TVs like my old 19" Sharp only has one HDMI port!), or get a uncooperative TV (what you get for buying those cap ayam brand LCD TVs) to work with HDCP-locked HDMI source.

I think those DVD-Maker USB dongles should be good enough for the purpose. Just make sure you use a good capture software. Many low-end capture software can suffer from audio sync problems where recording too long can cause the sound and video to lose sync after some time.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 17 2012, 01:32 PM

You pay nothing, but I think I read earlier on this thread that if you accept your contract will be locked down for two year (meaning you cannot terminate assteruk for another two year once you accept the foc PVR)?

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 17 2012, 02:46 PM

Well, once you get a HDCP stripper in the middle, copy protection is gone...

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 17 2012, 05:48 PM

Well, what assteruk does best, screw the customers and sucker them off their money...

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 18 2012, 09:56 AM

Just looked up the EzRecorder. Sounds interesting. I wonder if any shop in Malaysia will pick it up. On the other hand, it has to be used with a HDMI-to-Component box with built-in HDCP support or it's not going to work. And I don't think those are sold in Malaysia? I saw some in HDMI to Component/VGA converters in Viewnet but am not sure it support HDCP.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 18 2012, 10:00 PM

Well, once it's converted to analog, then there is no more copy protection.

Yep, basically blatant corruption and bribery in broad daylight.

Rakyat dah buka mata. They better be careful...

And why would you want assteruk? Better to watch Thai programming! RTM programming is bull!


So it appears that Assteruk lies to it's sources, lies to it's own employees, and of course, most horribly, lies to the public.

Assteruk is no difference from the Dominion in SCII...

Rais Yatim is Emperor Mengsk. And that Vincent de Paul guy? Donny Vermillion.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 20 2012, 09:39 PM

But if Assteruk dun lie to their employees, why did that ex-engineer tell me that Asstertuk cannot censor the incoming signal and is like ignorant to assteruk's censorship regime? Unless she's lying to me also...

But why would she lie to me tho? She's no longer working for assteruk at that time...

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 21 2012, 03:40 AM

Yeah, I know. Just wondering what that ex-engineer has to gain with lying to me...

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 21 2012, 09:50 AM

I refuse.

That's why I dah potong assteruk

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 22 2012, 09:43 AM

Correct, but three problems with ABN:
1: Fiber rollout. Base on my experience with fiber (goddamnit TM! By the time UniFi reached my area the channel I want badly has already stopped showing the show I want to see!), I think we'll wait until grow beard and white hair already only it'll come...
2: They're too secretive. What channels do they have? When is the exact opening date? They do not reply to e-mails and questions posted to FB, their website hasn't been updated for ages, and their jobstreet profiles are nonexistent even if they have a few entries there.
Importantly, this leads to:
3: How do we know it isn't a front created just to distract us from assteruk's monopoly?

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 22 2012, 06:16 PM

You mean 100,000km fiber 100km is not even the distance from Klang to Port Dickson.

Anyways, well, you're right. Let's wait and see. Just a few more days to June.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: May 23 2012, 12:24 AM

but is it worth having if it doesn't have channels with the show people want?

Hmmm... Wikipedia says it's supposed to be on UniFi. But it isn't. Also, UniFi missing Channel 161...

Maybe deal went sour and dropped from TM?