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post Dec 18 2012, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 18 2012, 08:40 PM)
tell me about it bro....I selected all the stuff I need for my build then after pm all the sellers, all of them only got half of the items that I want...the rest dont have  cry.gif

Its either do bulk purchase or wait till they bring but no guarantee on that sad.gif There is a bulk purchase going on till 20th...if you want to get something better do it fast tongue.gif
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wer got link
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post Dec 18 2012, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(kintsuchi @ Dec 18 2012, 08:50 PM)
wer got link
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I see my name! lol. yes, I take bulk orders from PPC and Aquatuning. though PPC is more popular.
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post Dec 19 2012, 02:51 AM

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Seeking sifus advices here again biggrin.gif. Should I upgrade my WC setup with dual pump? Actually I plan to get a dual bay res w/ dual D5 pump so I just need to find another pump and the res. Is it really needed and will this help improve the flow?

I believe that having 2 pumps is better than 1 coz If 1 pump fail, the other will act as a backup to maintain the flow subsequently protect our cpu/gpus am I correct?

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post Dec 19 2012, 05:04 AM

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QUOTE(shepard @ Dec 19 2012, 02:51 AM)
Seeking sifus advices here again biggrin.gif. Should I upgrade my WC setup with dual pump? Actually I plan to get a dual bay res w/ dual D5 pump so I just need to find another pump and the res. Is it really needed and will this help improve the flow?

I believe that having 2 pumps is better than 1 coz If 1 pump fail, the other will act as a backup to maintain the flow subsequently protect our cpu/gpus am I correct?

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thumbup.gif yes use 2 pump more power flow and more protection our system biggrin.gif
if only 1 pump anything can happen... cry.gif

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post Dec 19 2012, 05:19 AM

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QUOTE(Zzorro @ Dec 19 2012, 05:04 AM)
thumbup.gif  yes use 2 pump more power flow and more protection our system  biggrin.gif
if only 1 pump anything can happen...  cry.gif
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Thanks bro Zorro for the advice, will proceed to the plan then.
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post Dec 19 2012, 05:39 AM

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2 pump power flow thumbup.gif

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post Dec 19 2012, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(Zzorro @ Dec 19 2012, 05:39 AM)
2 pump power flow thumbup.gif
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Yeah, the flow looks strong in there. Mine even the bubbles move very slow not to say the coolant, it looks static sweat.gif

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post Dec 19 2012, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(shepard @ Dec 19 2012, 02:51 AM)
Seeking sifus advices here again biggrin.gif. Should I upgrade my WC setup with dual pump? Actually I plan to get a dual bay res w/ dual D5 pump so I just need to find another pump and the res. Is it really needed and will this help improve the flow?

I believe that having 2 pumps is better than 1 coz If 1 pump fail, the other will act as a backup to maintain the flow subsequently protect our cpu/gpus am I correct?

thanx
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IMHO, the dual bay res w/ dual D5 pump doesnt give the same performance as using a saperate setup (res - pump). I had a very hard time bleeding my loop and didnt get a good flow using the Koolance dual bay res+dual D5 pump..(malas nak quote nama benda tu). Sold it to my friend. So, i prefer a seperate setup. But dont know bout the one that XSPC made. Myb better than Koolance.
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post Dec 19 2012, 11:16 AM

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You don't need dual pump in the same loop smile.gif seriously, it doesn't help much. If you want better temps, run 2 separate loops a.k.a dual loop.
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post Dec 19 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 19 2012, 11:16 AM)
You don't need dual pump in the same loop smile.gif seriously, it doesn't help much. If you want better temps, run 2 separate loops a.k.a dual loop.
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Agree. The only problem to make dual loop for some is space. to make it tidy n neat, need a large case.. my 2cents only tongue.gif
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QUOTE(qwe13 @ Dec 19 2012, 01:56 PM)
Agree. The only problem to make dual loop for some is space. to make it tidy n neat, need a large case.. my 2cents only  tongue.gif
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run dual loops witm my old case.pca71
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Hmm hmm.gif , I would like to setup a dual loop but my biggest challenge is 'space'. I am no case modder so I dont have any idea where else to put another Res and pump. All 5.25" bays are occupied and I see no place to add another res sad.gif.




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QUOTE(qwe13 @ Dec 19 2012, 01:56 PM)
Agree. The only problem to make dual loop for some is space. to make it tidy n neat, need a large case.. my 2cents only  tongue.gif
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You got it correct biggrin.gif Many people are often misled by certain quarters with the wrong facts and information so that is why they end up purchasing 2 pumps for a single loop. Unless we have a very weak pump or the loop is too restrictive then it makes sense to have 2 pumps but in normal scenarios, 1 pump is often enough smile.gif Moreover, these are physics. If you have a small radiator and even if the water moves at 10,000 l/h, it will still be hot. If your water moves slowly and you have a super big radiator, it performs much better.

Previously I used to have a customer that insists a dual pump setup would give better temps and did not want to listen to my advice. I was trying to help him save up the money for something more worthy to invest but he refused. However after he bought the 2nd pump from me and tried for himself, he finally agreed with what I told him. Some people try to outsmart the law of physics but for me, I always follow it (because I'm not Einstein) laugh.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 19 2012, 11:16 AM)
You don't need dual pump in the same loop smile.gif seriously, it doesn't help much. If you want better temps, run 2 separate loops a.k.a dual loop.
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but when use one pump was dangerous too..most people who build a water cooling setup often use this expensive hardware so it's better use 2 pump thumbup.gif imagine we are start the pc,suddenly there is a phone call..we chat in 15 minutes while we pump failed to work for the reason that we do not now..haha what will happen on our pc? certainly kebabooom that's why 1 recommended using two pumps if one fails the other can work to save our pc... from my opinion only smile.gif hehe sorry bad english byk mkn belacan laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zzorro @ Dec 19 2012, 02:37 PM)
but when use one pump was dangerous too..most people who build a water cooling setup often use this expensive hardware so it's better use 2 pump thumbup.gif  imagine we are start the pc,suddenly there is a phone call..we chat in 15 minutes while we pump failed to work for the reason that we do not now..haha what will happen on our pc? certainly kebabooom that's why 1 recommended using two pumps if one fails the other can work to save our pc... from my opinion only smile.gif hehe sorry bad english byk mkn belacan laugh.gif
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So combining both points means using dual pump, dual loop setup?
Expensive sial. rclxub.gif LOL. Jk jk.
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QUOTE(Zzorro @ Dec 19 2012, 02:37 PM)
but when use one pump was dangerous too..most people who build a water cooling setup often use this expensive hardware so it's better use 2 pump thumbup.gif  imagine we are start the pc,suddenly there is a phone call..we chat in 15 minutes while we pump failed to work for the reason that we do not now..haha what will happen on our pc? certainly kebabooom that's why 1 recommended using two pumps if one fails the other can work to save our pc... from my opinion only smile.gif hehe sorry bad english byk mkn belacan laugh.gif
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Your PC will not explode when the pump fails. Technology these days are very advanced and your CPU has temp protection and will auto shut down (if things are too hot). You can also tell if the pump is running or not by looking at the temperature. All you need to do is download CoreTemp and have it displayed in your taskbar. If you are using Swiftech pumps, it is also very reliable and I probably heard of 1 failure out of the hundreds I've sold throughout the years.
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post Dec 19 2012, 02:47 PM

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Spot on broo...! the water actually needs time to cool since the purpose of it being there is to dissipate heat. Thus, if the water travels the loop so fast without time to cool, the only result end up having is the same amount of heat travel through out the whole loop. But at the same time, if we have a static water movement in the res, myb its not bcoz of a slow flow rate, but perhaps there's something else is wrong inside the loop.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 19 2012, 02:29 PM)
You got it correct biggrin.gif Many people are often misled by certain quarters with the wrong facts and information so that is why they end up purchasing 2 pumps for a single loop. Unless we have a very weak pump or the loop is too restrictive then it makes sense to have 2 pumps but in normal scenarios, 1 pump is often enough smile.gif Moreover, these are physics. If you have a small radiator and even if the water moves at 10,000 l/h, it will still be hot. If your water moves slowly and you have a super big radiator, it performs much better.

Previously I used to have a customer that insists a dual pump setup would give better temps and did not want to listen to my advice. I was trying to help him save up the money for something more worthy to invest but he refused. However after he bought the 2nd pump from me and tried for himself, he finally agreed with what I told him. Some people try to outsmart the law of physics but for me, I always follow it (because I'm not Einstein) laugh.gif
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Bro Alvin,

as you can see below. My setup consist of 2 radiators(TFC120 & RX360) where the coolant must flow upwards to enter the rads. Do you think my current setup can survice long as I'm already at Maximum pump speed. Theoretically the coolant needs a high pressure to move upward towards the radiators, but If you think its more than enough I am sticking to this setup and no more WC upgrade for me sweat.gif . I am quite satisfied with the temps, however my cpu needs 1.4v in order to stable at 4.8GHz and the temps already reach 95deg during 3dmark cpu test iirc, I dont know what temp i'll get if run a p95.

I know there's no way to push this chip to 5.0GHz without delidding it so I just hope to settle down at 4.8GHz 24/7. Maybe old timers here can advise an amateur like me, thanks notworthy.gif

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post Dec 19 2012, 03:03 PM

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@shepard..

Bro, rule of thumb in w/c...never settle for just one loop setup. There's always an upgrade.. tongue.gif

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