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post Feb 5 2015, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 5 2015, 08:50 PM)
Heated water tank will maintain temperature of 70-85°C.
If full heat, such temperature can boil our skin already.
By mixing it to cold water, assuming to get 36°C of warm water for bath with cold water at 30°C, the ratio will be 20% hot water + 80% cold water. It will be enough for 2 hours of bath.
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It is almost impossible to empty a 25L of storage tank heated water as the outlet piping is like 3/4 of the way up on tank.
One will be able to slowly feel the premix temperature is slowly dropping after a continuous 8-10mins shower.
The bigger the tank say 35L or 45L, the continuous premix temperature is maintained longer.
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post Feb 5 2015, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 5 2015, 09:35 PM)
Standard is 70c max in storage. That's why I mention earlier 25L storage is sufficient for one toilet. And we usually set  40+-c. That work to be ( 6L of 24c + 3L 70c ) for 39.3c temperature at 9L/min flow. Further more heating element still running.
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My place the setting is 80°C sweat.gif
That's why if using heated tank, no need to bother much on water will be cold or not(keep electric bill behind on this) laugh.gif
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post Feb 5 2015, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 5 2015, 09:37 PM)
Yes but instant have its own problem. During rainy day you won't get good warm water if flow rate are high.
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All heated water system (instant, storage, solar and heat pump) has its pros and cons.
No one shoe fits all.

Instant- Easiest to install and usually for single point use, lowest cost 45C max
Storage- Easy to install and can be multipoint use, needs hot cold plumbing, best choice for condo, mid cost 70-85C max
Solar- landed properties only, needs hot cold plumbing, high initial cost but low energy bill, multipoint use 80-98C max
Heat-pump- commercial use, very low energy bill but high investment cost, multipoint use 60C max
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QUOTE(brutus @ Feb 5 2015, 09:40 PM)
It is almost impossible to empty a 25L of storage tank heated water as the outlet piping is like 3/4 of the way up on tank.
One will be able to slowly feel the premix temperature is slowly dropping after a continuous 8-10mins shower.
The bigger the tank say 35L or 45L, the continuous premix temperature is maintained longer.
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With 20/80 of the ratio I said, it can last for 1-2 hours.
Remember, once heating element running, it will keep the water hot then warm.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 5 2015, 09:45 PM)
My place the setting is 80°C sweat.gif
That's why if using heated tank, no need to bother much on water will be cold or not(keep electric bill behind on this) laugh.gif
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Yours is a vertical mounted model?

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post Feb 5 2015, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 5 2015, 09:46 PM)
With 20/80 of the ratio I said, it can last for 1-2 hours.
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Yes, it depends on the user as well as some like to take luke warm (33-35C) water while some like (36-39C).
The inlet water temperature also plays an important role.
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post Feb 5 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 5 2015, 09:45 PM)
My place the setting is 80°C sweat.gif
That's why if using heated tank, no need to bother much on water will be cold or not(keep electric bill behind on this) laugh.gif
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Ok, Joven is 70c, maybe different brand have its own standard.

http://www.joven-electric.com/product_deta...d=1&series_id=2
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post Feb 5 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(brutus @ Feb 5 2015, 09:47 PM)
Yours is a vertical mounted model?
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Yup, in Qatar, now is winter. So the heated water will set higher at 80°C and it do cut in very fast due to water temperature are about 15°C.
The electric bill in the place I stay is about rm900 a month(1 riyal = rm1). Already tested for 2 hours and it is still warm like I replied earlier. But this type of wastage are bill killer whistling.gif
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 5 2015, 09:21 PM)
If everyday use, no need wait 30mins, just switch on and use enough. Storage tank can maintain the hot water pretty well. If you didn't use for two days just need wait 10mins.  Unless we are at cold country.
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But already be normal, cause went back home turn on and taking bath time also within a hour.

In sg water storage tank the water really cold like ice water.
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Here is mine 25L
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post Feb 5 2015, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 5 2015, 10:01 PM)
Here is mine 25L
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Yours 2500watt, take longer to heat up vs mine 3000watt
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 5 2015, 10:04 PM)
Yours 2500watt, take longer to heat up vs mine 3000watt
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Your is 35L where got different.

Not lah actually just taken without 15-20mins already feel that hot.
Already be normal, like our Aircon also turn on sleep b4 1hr.

Also my sink mixer faucet alreay adjusted the valve for water saving, according to Supersound bro said my water use like no tomorrow thumbup.gif

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post Feb 7 2015, 01:11 AM

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Looking for a 25l wh storage tank and 2 instant heaters...
house running on centralized water pump (grundfos pm1.....though having problem lately, but developer will rectify it soon as still under warranty)

So wat model of storage tank and instant is suitable....more concern on instant heater with high pressurr running through it, will it heat fast enough? ?
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post Mar 16 2015, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ May 12 2014, 08:06 PM)
I'm using rinnai with dc pump and rainshower.
Price at rm620.
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Hi,

I am thinking of getting the same Rinnai Instant Water Heater with DC pump and rain shower as yours (REI-A360DP-R-WS) - http://www.rinnai.com.my/product/category/9/64

Mind to share your experience with this instant water... good? Btw, where you bought it at RM620?

Thanks.

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Mar 16 2015, 12:39 AM)
Hi,

I am thinking of getting the same Rinnai Instant Water Heater with DC pump and rain shower as yours (REI-A360DP-R-WS) - http://www.rinnai.com.my/product/category/9/64

Mind to share your experience with this instant water... good? Btw, where you bought it at RM620?

Thanks.
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This is my first experience getting rainshower water heater... I like it very much... You can adjust the pump power...
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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Mar 16 2015, 07:12 AM)
This is my first experience getting rainshower water heater... I like it very much... You can adjust the pump power...
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Glad to know you like it! Where did you bought it at RM620? The cheapest i found is RM699 and i need to buy two units (and try to save $). Thanks.

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post Mar 16 2015, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Mar 16 2015, 10:25 AM)
Glad to know you like it! Where did you bought it at RM620? The cheapest i found is RM699 and i need to buy two units... Thanks.
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You can try check with iamsobloodysick for latest price...
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post Mar 26 2015, 10:28 AM

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I70P and SL30iP, which one better? or they are the same?
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post Mar 26 2015, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 5 2015, 09:37 PM)
Yes but instant have its own problem. During rainy day you won't get good warm water if flow rate are high.
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how hot/warm do u want ? im using instant water heater for about 15yrs+ and i have no problems in any weather condition smile.gif
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post Mar 26 2015, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Mar 16 2015, 10:25 AM)
Glad to know you like it! Where did you bought it at RM620? The cheapest i found is RM699 and i need to buy two units (and try to save $). Thanks.
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u can consider SL30iP with DC inverter pump + rainshower ... RM585 @ Houses Lighting Puchong

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