Its ok for newbie..but after this, maybe can sourced out for cheaper price. Never buy from gold shop.

If 25 deduction that item is not for investment but collection. PK also have la bro...
Who say Dragon Pam is for investment?

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Added on January 29, 2012, 10:41 amJewellery shop 999 gold price has maintain the same for more than 1 month. I believe Monday the price will increase like 10-15 ringgit at least. (they can't change the price on Sat and Sunday)
Although there is 12% dispersion but since the bank gold price had changed. Unable to buy it in old price. Thats why dispersion of 12% no longer 12% if you know that the price will shoot up.

This post has been edited by doraemonkiller: Jan 29 2012, 10:41 AM

China do produce a lot of "limited edition" stuff for "investment"

likes "limited edition dragon gold coin, note , sheet etc " . But i feel it's very commercial for such stuff.

Dear, do you understand the difference between numis coins and bars?
Just cos you paid 25% more at the jewellers does not make it numis.

The Pamp Dragon is no different from the Fortuna BARS...

Further more you can get it cheaper else where..................WHY would you wanna
pay at a highr price at the jewellers?

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Added on January 29, 2012, 2:30 pmAye

Like the Perth mint dragon 1 oz gold coin. Thats limited to 30,000 pieces.
These coins are numistatic in nature

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jan 29 2012, 02:30 PM

Now my investment on gold is just merely cover the spread, now only profit around RM100...sigh....need to wait it reach at least RM1800 per ounce

When did I said about numis? Don't let me keep repeat my mesg until I vomit blood.
I never ask people to invest on pam dragon because not worth it at all. Why do u keep relate pamp dragon to investment?

Like what I said, PK gold bar and Tomei pamp swiss deduction is different with normal jewellery. Although their selling price is higher but the buy back price also higher. We always look at their dispersion in terms of percentage. Just like different bank have different rate and different dispersion percentage. If you still can't understand please just skip it and stop making fool of yourself.

How much deduction if sell back pamp dragon to them?

Not sure but prophetjul said it is 25%. Same like the normal jewellery.

Do we have historical daily rates for Paper Gold from banks ?

Hi guys ... just started to do some reading on Gold .. Referring to 1st page, the best gold is like 999.99 but public bank seems to offer 99.99 only? Which is less than 100? Am I seeing a typo or those numbers are not in terms on percentage ? Just wanna make sure the gold from Public Bank is not crappy gold ... lolz

First of all YOU are the one to recommend ppl to buy Pamp bars from jewellers which is sillly as i have
pointed out



Next later in response to me you said



Dear.......

There are only two specs as far as investment in Pms are concerned, ie bullions and numis
If pamp dragon is a bar, it cannot be numis.
If you buy a bar and its not for investment, whats it for?

NOW

you say

It appears you are not even sure of the spread of buy/sell of the pamp bars by the jewellers!
Are you trying very hard to pay a premium of 25%?

IF SO, i will gladly sell my pamp bars to YOU for a premium of 20% above spot.......deal Dear?


How many do you want?

u can try to browse goldabout.blogspot

Thanks... should put this in the 1st post as reference : http://goldabout.blogspot.com/p/malaysia-b...gold-price.html

hi any1 here know where to do intraday gold trading? which is the best broker?

Seriously. Do you know the difference of pamp swiss and pamp dragon. I never heard about pamp dragon until you mention it. Since you said pamp dragon trade in deduction is 25 percent it will be same like normal jewellery which it has to be melted after trade in. For pamp swiss and PK gold bar, it does not go through this process. That is why the deduction is lower.
If you buy the dragon pamp for investment then don't whine too much becoz of your stupidity. Whatever it call pamp, numis or bar, you have to look on their dispersion, risk and benefit.

Silly me.....the Pamp Fortuna and dragon are about the same price at the jewellers.
they are same bars issued by Pamp....Here for your eyes and learning experience.......



i will whine a lot for paying 25% more than what i should...espcially when i can aquire
that for 25% less compared with them jewellers that you touted.

Imagine if i invest Rm1mil. Thats Rm250k gone to your jewellers for NOTHING!

i guess its stoopid to wanna buy it less especially when its for investment...........

i guess a clever dude like you like to pay over the top for your investments............

SERIOUSL-y

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jan 30 2012, 12:24 PM

Did I recommend this dragon pamp to anyone? You are the 1 who started this. You keep insist this item instead of the common pamp swiss. If the deduction is 25 percent (I not sure whether u get the right info), it will be more like collection instead of investment. If you are rich enough, you want pamp rabbit, pamp snake also can.

Why are you so worked up about the pamp dragon?

The prices for the common pamp fortuna at the jewellers are ALSO over the top.
Last time in asked it was like 25%.
So why do you wanna pay for that?

The point of all this is NEVER BUY GOLD BARS FROM JEWELLERS (which YOU recommended in a post)
because of the price.

Theres no pamp rabbit, pamp snake ...........

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Added on January 30, 2012, 1:53 pmToday (145pm) the Fgjam gold price is RM198p gram
Thats translates into Rm6148p oz.

i can get the same for Rm5436.

Thats 13% lower..looks like its cheaper than the last time i asked.

Anyway you can get the same pamp fortuna at UOB at Rm5633 presently.....if stocks are avail.............

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Added on January 30, 2012, 1:55 pmOr 1stopgold(disclaimer:i dont own this company)

selling at Rm176 p gram

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jan 30 2012, 01:55 PM

+1

Never buy gold bar from jewellery shop.

Full stop.

I got gold which i kept since 15 years ago mostly are jewelleries. But got 1 gold coin dated 1904. Was told the coin worth more than 10k. Where is the best way to sell the gold? Goldsmith will buy at low price which i dont want to sell to them