QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jan 12 2013, 01:45 AM)
has anyone heard of monier roofs?they have a solar powered one,,issit d same function as getting a solar water heater?
Roof tiles can become solar water heater?Solar Water Heater
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Jan 12 2013, 11:35 AM
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Jan 12 2013, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jan 12 2013, 01:45 AM) has anyone heard of monier roofs?they have a solar powered one,,issit d same function as getting a solar water heater? You mean this http://www.monier.com.my/energy-efficiency...-solarroof.html MONIER Solar Water Heating Roof looks just like a regular rebranded Solar Water Heater. |
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Jan 12 2013, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jan 12 2013, 12:11 PM) You mean this yup.wonder how it differs from regular roofing then...might as well save some money now n when budget is looser in d future oni get a solar system installed.coz my house need to replacee d roof n i been eyeing eco-friendly stuff,but budget kinda tight hahahttp://www.monier.com.my/energy-efficiency...-solarroof.html MONIER Solar Water Heating Roof looks just like a regular rebranded Solar Water Heater. |
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Jan 13 2013, 09:11 AM
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I guess monier gets a factory to OEM for them. From the design and spec, i suspect summer OEM for them as their spec looks similar.
Just compared the spec and you would b able to tell which is a better solar. Usually, we will look at 1) Tank Capacity 2) Number of Copper riser tubes 3) Tank Material |
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Jan 13 2013, 10:41 AM
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I have just installed the solar heater yesterday, but the hot water coming out is whitish colour until today. Just wonder whether is this normal and how to make the hot water clean?
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Jan 13 2013, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(*CG* @ Jan 13 2013, 10:41 AM) I have just installed the solar heater yesterday, but the hot water coming out is whitish colour until today. Just wonder whether is this normal and how to make the hot water clean? What you see and think is whitish substance is actually tiny water bubbles. To confirm it, use a clear glass fill it with the water and examine it. If it is bubbles it will disappear in a minute. If it is dirt or something it should sink or float. If the water stays white then there is something like solution in the water tank or tubes. |
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Jan 13 2013, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jan 13 2013, 09:11 AM) I guess monier gets a factory to OEM for them. From the design and spec, i suspect summer OEM for them as their spec looks similar. wad spec reading make a good solar heater?Just compared the spec and you would b able to tell which is a better solar. Usually, we will look at 1) Tank Capacity 2) Number of Copper riser tubes 3) Tank Material i only know that d tank capacity must be high,but what about d other two? zheilwane,do i need to do any specific wiring if say i can't afford a solar water heater now but intend to install 1 in d future? |
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Jan 13 2013, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 13 2013, 12:15 PM) What you see and think is whitish substance is actually tiny water bubbles. To confirm it, use a clear glass fill it with the water and examine it. If it is bubbles it will disappear in a minute. If it is dirt or something it should sink or float. If the water stays white then there is something like solution in the water tank or tubes. Thank you for the advice! I don't think it is bubbles. The water stays white. Any suggestion to rectify? |
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Jan 14 2013, 09:05 AM
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Jan 14 2013, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(*CG* @ Jan 13 2013, 11:46 PM) Thank you for the advice! I don't think it is bubbles. The water stays white. Any suggestion to rectify? If it is something leach out from tank/pipe is should be cleared after few days or weeks till all the soluble dissolved in water. by then when you complain and the service man comes it will be cleared already and remain mysterious.I still think it is air bubbles. Let it settles and use a big glass or jug. Worst is if it is anti termite/ant solution |
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Jan 14 2013, 09:36 PM
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I got a question to ask regarding installation.
The Solar tank is heavy and water is heavy. one litter of water = 1 kg. A 250 liter tank + the stainless steel tank itself + the water in the copper/solar tubes can easily weight 350 t0 400 kg equal to 6 to 7 man standing on one spot of the roof. The question is do we need additional truss support under the roof with more wood/truss? One other thing is the roof truss support the roof tiles and it is calculated so and no more. We added the solar tank is one issue and if it stands well all well but our roof tiles are mostly concrete roof tiles. As it gets old after 10 years the shining layer of paint will be worn out. Without the protective paint rain water will be absorbed like sponge and added weight to the roof truss. What next??? Accident waiting to happen??? Comment needed |
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Jan 15 2013, 08:09 PM
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Jan 15 2013, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 14 2013, 09:36 PM) I got a question to ask regarding installation. Asked my supplier, they say a 60gal solar usually wont have any problem unless is 80gal. So, either contractors/developers would b able to advise whether the roof could withstand the weight of the solar or when u purchase, u could also get the solar technician's to checkThe Solar tank is heavy and water is heavy. one litter of water = 1 kg. A 250 liter tank + the stainless steel tank itself + the water in the copper/solar tubes can easily weight 350 t0 400 kg equal to 6 to 7 man standing on one spot of the roof. The question is do we need additional truss support under the roof with more wood/truss? One other thing is the roof truss support the roof tiles and it is calculated so and no more. We added the solar tank is one issue and if it stands well all well but our roof tiles are mostly concrete roof tiles. As it gets old after 10 years the shining layer of paint will be worn out. Without the protective paint rain water will be absorbed like sponge and added weight to the roof truss. What next??? Accident waiting to happen??? Comment needed |
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Jan 15 2013, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jan 15 2013, 08:11 PM) Asked my supplier, they say a 60gal solar usually wont have any problem unless is 80gal. So, either contractors/developers would b able to advise whether the roof could withstand the weight of the solar or when u purchase, u could also get the solar technician's to check Thanks for the reply. So you are saying most of the time the installers just install without any additional support for 60 gal solar tank. For me two pieces of wood under one side of the tank have bent recently. I added a 2x5 on these two pieces but there is no way to make it straight. Just make it so that it will not bend further and collapse. Nowadays metal roof truss are used. Just do not know if it is stronger than wood. It looks very thin. |
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Jan 15 2013, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 15 2013, 10:10 PM) Thanks for the reply. So you are saying most of the time the installers just install without any additional support for 60 gal solar tank. For me two pieces of wood under one side of the tank have bent recently. I added a 2x5 on these two pieces but there is no way to make it straight. Just make it so that it will not bend further and collapse. can use hydraulic jack to jack it up ....metal roof trusses sure bend / collapse if no additional support Nowadays metal roof truss are used. Just do not know if it is stronger than wood. It looks very thin. |
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Jan 15 2013, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 15 2013, 10:10 PM) Thanks for the reply. So you are saying most of the time the installers just install without any additional support for 60 gal solar tank. For me two pieces of wood under one side of the tank have bent recently. I added a 2x5 on these two pieces but there is no way to make it straight. Just make it so that it will not bend further and collapse. You can ask tomjason here. He Reno his roof structure by himself. And using metal roof truss. Strong roof structure very much depend on design. A good design can support high load anytime.Nowadays metal roof truss are used. Just do not know if it is stronger than wood. It looks very thin. |
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Jan 15 2013, 11:16 PM
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Typical Malaysian style. As long not collapse can la.
I ask my Contractor before, he recommend me to put more support if need to use solar water heater. |
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Jan 16 2013, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 14 2013, 09:21 PM) If it is something leach out from tank/pipe is should be cleared after few days or weeks till all the soluble dissolved in water. by then when you complain and the service man comes it will be cleared already and remain mysterious. I still think it is air bubbles. Let it settles and use a big glass or jug. Worst is if it is anti termite/ant solution QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jan 15 2013, 08:09 PM) Thank you for the reply! I re-tested the water again today, seems like they were bubbles like what you all guess! Any method to get rid of these bubbles? |
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Jan 16 2013, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(*CG* @ Jan 16 2013, 01:06 AM) Thank you for the reply! I re-tested the water again today, seems like they were bubbles like what you all guess! Any method to get rid of these bubbles? Use few more days it should be ok. Similar case with my mom incoming water filter, we replace it and during the first 30mins of flushing it have lots of whitish water, after 30mins flush it reduce but still noticable. And after 1 week, water is clear. |
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Jan 16 2013, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 16 2013, 10:06 AM) Use few more days it should be ok. Similar case with my mom incoming water filter, we replace it and during the first 30mins of flushing it have lots of whitish water, after 30mins flush it reduce but still noticable. And after 1 week, water is clear. Thanks for the advice! |
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