Well i just took the plunge today, and I can already see the benefits in BF2.
I'll experiment more on Doom 3, Vista, DoW:WA and Half Life 2.
No 1Gb vs 2Gb benchmarks, just my personal observations.
2 GB the way of the future?
2 GB the way of the future?
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Oct 25 2005, 11:24 PM
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Well i just took the plunge today, and I can already see the benefits in BF2.
I'll experiment more on Doom 3, Vista, DoW:WA and Half Life 2. No 1Gb vs 2Gb benchmarks, just my personal observations. |
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Oct 26 2005, 01:37 AM
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i'm foing for 2 GB soon.. hehe..
now running 2 x 512 DDR 333MHz.. wondering if using same brand same FSB RAM but different Memory Chipset Manufacturer will cause incompatability a not? |
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Oct 26 2005, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(navilink @ Oct 25 2005, 10:36 PM) here i got one good article to answer all your doubts.... Wow, kind of a dumb review. I would think that site would know better. Of course 2 gigs of ram wont give you more FPS. No one ever said it would. It fixes hitching, and HD thrashing, and studdering and load times. Making the game run smoother, not faster. I would think a hardware review site would know betterhttp://legionhardware.com/document.php?id=468 |
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Oct 26 2005, 11:30 AM
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turn off your pagefile now and play your fav games, if xp doesnt complain about out of memory, you dont need extra RAM.
i have 512MB and i turn off pagefile, i dont play games, just normal surfing and normal stuff, i dont get any out of memory msg. if i open more than 80 tabs in Firefox, not enough memory. |
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Oct 26 2005, 12:25 PM
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If I do what you did, my system either will give me that error or hangs. You are not a heavy user, so it didn't matter; but if you encountered programs that must have page file in order to work, then your system might hang. I guess you haven't so far...
QUOTE(greyPJ @ Oct 26 2005, 11:30 AM) turn off your pagefile now and play your fav games, if xp doesnt complain about out of memory, you dont need extra RAM. i have 512MB and i turn off pagefile, i dont play games, just normal surfing and normal stuff, i dont get any out of memory msg. if i open more than 80 tabs in Firefox, not enough memory. |
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Oct 26 2005, 12:26 PM
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Yup, I agree, that review is basically done by someone who knows only half the story.
QUOTE(bossnass15 @ Oct 26 2005, 10:07 AM) Wow, kind of a dumb review. I would think that site would know better. Of course 2 gigs of ram wont give you more FPS. No one ever said it would. It fixes hitching, and HD thrashing, and studdering and load times. Making the game run smoother, not faster. I would think a hardware review site would know better |
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Oct 26 2005, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 26 2005, 12:25 PM) If I do what you did, my system either will give me that error or hangs. You are not a heavy user, so it didn't matter; but if you encountered programs that must have page file in order to work, then your system might hang. I guess you haven't so far... can you tell me what program requires pagefile or else hang? i havent seen any, like to try out.yes, i dont run many program in the background. |
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Oct 26 2005, 12:29 PM
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I have just bought FEAR and Quake4.
Both games enable all effects. Resolution: 1280 x 960 (FEAR) and 1280 x 1024 (Quake) AA: 4x AF: 16X SuperSampling and Gamma Sampling. FEAR: Jerks occasionally. Quake4: Smooth like butter... and can enable 8xAA as well. The counter is 60fps at all times. I have yet to check the peak memory usage for Quake but FEAR used nearly 1.5GB. Damn I need 2GB!! QUOTE(Eoma @ Oct 25 2005, 11:24 PM) |
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Oct 26 2005, 12:30 PM
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Oct 26 2005, 12:31 PM
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@ jarofclay:
and how big is your pagefile. |
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Oct 26 2005, 01:28 PM
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lasttime when using photoshop CS, when disable pagefile and run the program even on 2gb it will prompt me to continue or not.
but photoshop CS2 no more have this problem, adobe had realize pagefile is not importaint as long as u got sufficeint memory. |
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Oct 26 2005, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(ychwang @ Oct 26 2005, 01:28 PM) lasttime when using photoshop CS, when disable pagefile and run the program even on 2gb it will prompt me to continue or not. xp handles pagefile poorly, even when there are plenty of free RAM, xp send open prog to pagefile, so stupid, try open afew prog and walk away from your computer. Return after a few minutes and then click each taskbar icon in turn. Watch Windows thrash.but photoshop CS2 no more have this problem, adobe had realize pagefile is not importaint as long as u got sufficeint memory. |
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Oct 26 2005, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Oct 26 2005, 02:22 PM) xp handles pagefile poorly, even when there are plenty of free RAM, xp send open prog to pagefile, so stupid, try open afew prog and walk away from your computer. Return after a few minutes and then click each taskbar icon in turn. Watch Windows thrash. And while its thrashing, if you use something like "freeram xp pro" not for the ram freeing but the remaining free ram counter, you can see its at least 700-800 mb free (with 1mb of ram). |
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Oct 26 2005, 02:34 PM
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Oct 26 2005, 07:09 PM
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If a game memory requirement is quite a lot more then the mainstream gamer PC (for year 2004 or 2005, I think most PC got 512Mb, or some with 1024Mb), then I think the game development team is not optimize enough about their game engine, which also will affect their game popularity!!
At least for now I know John Carmack doing quite well on this aspect, thumb up for him!! |
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Oct 27 2005, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 26 2005, 12:29 PM) I have just bought FEAR and Quake4. walao.. running 7800 GTX SLI of coz no laggin ma.. hahaBoth games enable all effects. Resolution: 1280 x 960 (FEAR) and 1280 x 1024 (Quake) AA: 4x AF: 16X SuperSampling and Gamma Sampling. FEAR: Jerks occasionally. Quake4: Smooth like butter... and can enable 8xAA as well. The counter is 60fps at all times. I have yet to check the peak memory usage for Quake but FEAR used nearly 1.5GB. Damn I need 2GB!! |
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Oct 27 2005, 03:41 PM
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Intrigue,
Nope, if you read my thread properly, I dun actually have a smooth game in FEAR due to RAM limitations even on SLI. |
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Oct 27 2005, 03:47 PM
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if u dont like upgrading, go buy a "ps3" or "xbox360"
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Oct 27 2005, 03:48 PM
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Well, I've just redownloaded the FEAR SP demo, will test it later tonight. I experienced the "turn-into-a-corner-and-stutter" syndrome running on 1GB last time. Let's see if 2GB helps. Will also check out how Vista CTP performs.
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Oct 27 2005, 03:58 PM
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