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ychwang
post Oct 23 2005, 02:53 AM

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if your using amd64, the ram is limit to ddr333 when install 2gb ram.

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post Oct 23 2005, 03:17 AM

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AMD mobo... okay i'll try the DDR333

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post Oct 23 2005, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(ychwang @ Oct 23 2005, 02:53 AM)
if your using amd64, the ram is limit to ddr333 when install 2gb ram.
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hmm wat you mean by limit to ddr333?
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post Oct 23 2005, 05:12 AM

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It's not that you HAVE to use DDR 333 RAM, it's that when you run in a four stick or 2GB configuration, you won't be able to boot without underclocking your RAM to DDR 333. Using DDR 400 RAM is fine, you'd just have to underclock.

However...

The new DFI ATI CrossFire board reportedly (According to AnandTech anyway) for the first time allows in an AMD board the ability to run four sticks or 2GB at DDR400 AND at 1T.

Rather than get DDR333, makes more sense to stick with your DDR400 and get the new board.
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post Oct 23 2005, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Oct 22 2005, 04:12 PM)
Rather than get DDR333, makes more sense to stick with your DDR400 and get the new board.
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That is if you're not running SLI and you have USD200 to spare tongue.gif
It's ridiculously expensive at the moment, and the SB has USB issues.
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post Oct 23 2005, 12:11 PM

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oh thanks people.. IIRC ikanayam mentioned before that if i fill up the 4 slots the mem controller wont run as fast as if only 2 slots are filled up...

i let it run in AUTO mode in bios and the board had it run at DDR200 (100mhz) ram speed... sad.gif
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post Oct 23 2005, 01:01 PM

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ohw 400mhz downclocked to 333mhz sweat.gif
the performance sure drop la sweat.gif
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post Oct 23 2005, 01:05 PM

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no by much.. i guess...

ive downclocked my rams several times to increase the FSB too... it doesnt give any significant real word performance decrease..

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Oct 23 2005, 01:06 PM
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post Oct 23 2005, 01:26 PM

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hmmm not much difference ar
like that i can go for 2G without any hesitation lo
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post Oct 23 2005, 01:38 PM

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If you already have 2 pieces of 512MB, then it's much much cheaper to just add two more sticks of 512MB. Lower speed or looser timings but having sufficient for your usage is always better than having less (but faster) RAMs.

Page file swapping is the worst thing you could ever have on a gaming rig.

QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Oct 23 2005, 01:26 PM)
hmmm not much difference ar
like that i can go for 2G without any hesitation lo
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post Oct 23 2005, 01:48 PM

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ive tightened the timing to 2-3-3-7, it doesnt seem to be affected by the 4 dimms being filled up.. but i had to lower the speed...

im running my proc at stock speed... not going to use it for heavy stuff for a while...

should i disable page file swapping...? i heard some games cannot run without it...

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post Oct 23 2005, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 23 2005, 01:48 PM)
ive tightened the timing to 2-3-3-7, it doesnt seem to be affected by the 4 dimms being filled up.. but i had to lower the speed...

im running my proc at stock speed... not going to use it for heavy stuff for a while...

should i disable page file swapping...? i heard some games cannot run without it...
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2gb ram is sufficent to turn off the pagefile, i'd run without pagefile almost a year, never enconter memory not enuf.

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post Oct 23 2005, 02:29 PM

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oh cool
after upgrade to 2G then can off pagefile liao
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post Oct 23 2005, 05:04 PM

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ive already turned it off.. no difference in performance...haha
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post Oct 24 2005, 11:17 AM

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only difference when u had heavy multitasking or loading games.
try to do, antivirus scan+spyware scan+video encode+surfnet+watching divx movie, if u on pagefile ur hdd will die faster.
by turning off pagefile, you can save ur hdd life by couple month.

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post Oct 24 2005, 11:28 AM

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Actually, I dun understand the illusion that disabling pagefile when you have enough RAM is good.

Well, put it this way, you will get an errors or program crashes whenever you need more than 2GB of RAM. Setting it there is just a safety precaution and some programs actually need to detect the presence of a virtual memory in order to work properly.

Have a read here:
Sound on Sound

You will not in anyway get worst performance by enabling the page file because programs would try to use system RAM first anyway. If it really needs page file, and you set it 0, then you may risk crashing the program or OS.
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post Oct 24 2005, 11:58 AM

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I concur. There is simply no need to turn it off (from what I've read anyway).
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post Oct 24 2005, 01:34 PM

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just curious , izzit possible to use teh gigabyte I-Ram as pagefile ?
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post Oct 24 2005, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(zx7177 @ Oct 24 2005, 01:34 PM)
just curious , izzit possible to use teh gigabyte I-Ram as pagefile ?
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I shouldn't see why not. It gets detected as a normal hard drive right ? So you can probably set the pagefile to use that drive.
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post Oct 24 2005, 02:48 PM

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It's so expensive, a bit wasted using it as pagefile only.

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