On reexamination of your specs, by golly, you're right....

XP optimization perhaps? Running processes in the background eg. Konfabulator? Defrag your HD?

Cos the 6800Ultra handles FEAR for me quite well. Except for once when after about 2hrs with the aircond off I got a severe case of artifacting: even after rebooting. Solve by taking the sidepanel off the HomeRig. I suspect that heatgenerator of a Antec 550W PSU. A pile of junk actually. Should replace it with an Enermax...

Ahhh. On the HomeRig, I disable AA/AF.

But on the WorkRig, I've been running at 4xAA/16xAF and I get what you mean. AA/AF is a memory hog. I've got a pair of Corsair 3200Pro sticks in a drawer. Will slot it in to bring the WorkRig up to 2 gigs. Will have to run at 2T though. What sort of FSB clocks are your running at with four sticks?

Surprise surprise, I am running my rig at default 2.2GHz coz adding 2 pcs of 256MB to the existing 2pcs of 512MB seems to be very unstable. Furthermore I run at 2T.

However, the gaming experience changes dramatically. Previously, I would have stutterings all over with 1GB although I ran at tight timings, 1T and @ 2.6ghz. Now, it's smooth as a baby's bottom even at 2.2ghz cpu.

Upping the damn AA on these games takes a huge amount of memory. Just for comparisons:

Quake4
1. 1280 * 1024, No AA, everything max - 850MB "only"
2. 1280 * 1024, 4xAA, everything max - 1.6GB!!! At first it was okay until it even exceeded my 1.5GB memory and the more levels it loaded, the stutterings are more pronounced finally.

Darn!! We really need 2GB, period!!


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Can't get the WorkRig to see all four sticks. Even running at stock 200FSB (2.4Ghz); 2T.

The rig boots, All four sticks appear in CPUZ but maddeningly, the XP Hardware Manager only reports 1MB RAM. Tried switching banks, no go.

Perhaps the DFI board does not like that while these are matched pairs, they are not four identical sticks... One pair are OCZ 3700EB sticks and the other are CorsairPro 3200 sticks...

Well, back to 1GB for now...

Seriously, not trying to rub it in, so much for DFI mobo. At least, I've argued, Abit still can detect 4 sticks albeit @ 2T timings (nforce issue, not Abit) and of different capacity as well.

Anyone else facing problems with 4 sticks of RAM with your nforce4 mobo? Please share...

Mac,

This guy managed to run 4x512MB sticks.

http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t12699.html

This post has been edited by Eoma: Nov 1 2005, 12:36 PM

4 sticks of 512mb cheaper than 2 sticks of 1gb
the price difference is around RM200
now dunno which 1 should i go for

well.. for AMD64 i know when running 4 double sided will result in 2T (4x512MB)

how abt if i want 2GB, and i use 1GBx2 double sided... will it run at 1T or automatically 2T?

pls advice

your 2gb on amd64 can run 200mhz? how about after OC.

but i did tried with 4x512MB, and it still runs at DDR400@2T , i never overclocked yet coz the extra 2 sticks i return oledi.

with venice rev of the athlon64, you can run 4 stick double sided at DDR400.. unlike b4, when u used 4 DS stick, the memory speed will be reduced to DDR333

if i want to run 2GB(2x1GB), i think i'll go for the corsiar twinx2048-3500LL (hope i type correctly)

the the thing is, i duno whether 2 stick of high density stick (in this case 1GB per stick) will revert the system to 2T or not?

This post has been edited by jinaun: Nov 7 2005, 01:34 PM

I've seen Corsair's released a PDF file on how much performance gain in gaming and normal use between 1GB of ram vs. 2GB, turns out that the price didn't justified the performance gain at all, so marginal that the fps is not noticeable, say, from 125 to 129?

But then, when it comes to mem hungry apps, it did helps, a lot...

Still, 2GB is more likely for Pro, 1 GB for enthusiast, back to back, gaming is still GPU and GDDR dependent... instead of stocking in on more RAM, best still get a better GPU, or GPUS...

By the right, something like a noisy RAPTOR really makes loading apps fast but if anyone got hold of the GIGABYTE whatever-you-may-call-it i-RAM or something like it, it uses RAM as HDD space and the loading times is 5x to 6x higher than Raptor, but needed a rechargeable cell to keep the RAM running...

But then the future should be solid state NAND-Flash or XOR-Flash in high density, small footprint... so our harddisk will be like 2.5", but no more platter and pickup, just solid state Flash ram in USB Drive, furthermore there are already initiatives by CPU maker to actually etched Flash RAM inside the CPU as cache so that loading up is faster without the need of reload all the recent instruction...

Hybrid HDD would be the transition from Platter-Pickup to Pure Flash (Solid-State) Storage in the near future, like the Samsung Hybrid with 16MB of Flash RAM buffer... At the moment, those solid state storage is strictly for industrial use and too expensive to figure out...

But i believe with the introduction of Physics engine software like Havok and hardware like ASUS Ageia, then perhaps there's more to future gaming than just the mere RAM...

Perhaps if RAMBUS hit it at the right note, their much touted XDR would be kicking DDR3 and DDR4 ass, hope the JEDEC fella won't fail them once more... or they don't make it too expensive...

Wow, RAMBUS is still around eh...

Hmm....i somehow hope that RAM woundn't branch out into 2 camps, DDR and XDR...we've already had enough options to figure out.

And i hope to see Ageia would be brought into gaming soon once Vista is release. (i'm not to keen with havoc idea trying to use GPU cycle to simulate physics.)

im using 4x512mb DT-D43..
i plan to sell it. izit worth to buy 2x512 performance ram..?

sorri abit out of topic..
can sifu out there gimme sum tips..?

This post has been edited by tiSSue_paPer: Nov 9 2005, 06:25 PM

No, flash memory will not be used in the CPU anytime soon because it's way too slow. It will be on the mainboards. And adding engines will make the game even bigger and more resource hungry which will usually mean more RAM on top of other things.



No, XDR will be relegated to specialty devices like the PS3. Most manufacturers are not too keen to pay RAMBUS royalty. And besides, the future will see abstraction of memory types by way of FB-DIMMs, so whatever memory type used will have lesser impact on compatibility.

Microsoft is developing their own brand of DirectPhysics, probably will be released with Vista. And would you really rather pay USD200-300 for another card that will do nothing but physics than getting say another gfx card or a better one?

When Windows LongHorn comes out I am going to buy a new kick arse computer with 5 Gig RAM and Super OC it. 5 Gig should be standard NOW!

(for computer gamers and hardcore computer users).

Oh yeah I run Windows and VMware 4 other servers in my machines. Sorry for the random balb.

u runnin a server ka ?

cause afaik , desktop computers do not support 5 gigs yet

If 512MB x 4, can still do 1T timing arr..?

And can run at DDR400 or not..?

Or it will downclock to DDR333..?

sifu..!! which one more worth..?
4xDT-D43 or 2xperformence ram..?

thanks..!!

hmmm like that i should go for 2X 1G ram la
corsair and kingston
which 1 should i go for?

i thought nowadays pc can support up to 4gb allready and 1gb is considered normal and minimum for a gaming righ right ?

2gb and more should not be a problem to any new desktop , i have tested 4x 512mb ram on my asus p4p800 deluxe and abit ic7 and msi board , all working fine , maybe that dfi mobo has a jumper or setting in the bios needed to be changed perhaps ?