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jarofclay
post Oct 27 2005, 04:01 PM

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Yup, I faced the same "turn into a corner or open a door and stutter" syndrome. Otherwise, the frame rates are pretty smooth. Do let me know if your 2GB test goes on smoothly. If yes, perhaps I should get a couple of 1GB sticks of Redlines.

QUOTE(Eoma @ Oct 27 2005, 03:48 PM)
Well, I've just redownloaded the FEAR SP demo, will test it later tonight. I experienced the "turn-into-a-corner-and-stutter" syndrome running on 1GB last time. Let's see if 2GB helps. Will also check out how Vista CTP performs.
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post Oct 27 2005, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Oct 16 2005, 05:36 PM)
Wait!!!!!!!! why not lower the quality if you are not complaining about the video quality and enjoying the same game play..

For me, game play is much important then graphic.. for some reasons.. starcraft still rocks
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post Oct 28 2005, 11:07 AM

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Ok,

FEAR SP demo
The 1/2 sec stops are still there. BUT, overall it feels soooooo much smoother. The "stutters" occur in some corners (not all, and not in a stutter, ok, stutter, again fashion.), and though while they do distract a bit, the overall gameplay experience is still solid.
Verdict: Noticeable improvement over 1 GB.

Vista CTP
It still lags, but lags less compared to 1GB. Responsiveness seems/feels to have gone up as well. One explorer window, 2 IE windows, task manager running, shows 630MB+ of memory usage (this is with Aero Glass).
Verdict: Too early to tell, responsiveness seems up, but in the end the 2Gigs should definately help.


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post Oct 28 2005, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Oct 28 2005, 11:07 AM)
Ok, 

FEAR SP demo
The 1/2 sec stops are still there. BUT, overall it feels soooooo much smoother. The "stutters" occur in some corners (not all, and not in a stutter, ok, stutter, again fashion.), and though while they do distract a bit, the overall gameplay experience is still solid.
Verdict: Noticeable improvement over 1 GB.

Vista CTP
It still lags, but lags less compared to 1GB. Responsiveness seems/feels to have gone up as well. One explorer window, 2 IE windows, task manager running, shows 630MB+ of memory usage (this is with Aero Glass).
Verdict: Too early to tell, responsiveness seems up, but in the end the 2Gigs should definately help.
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did you disable the pagefile? if you dont you can really see any improvement.
xp sends everything to pagefile even if you have 4GB RAM.
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Oct 28 2005, 11:12 AM)
did you disable the pagefile? if you dont you can really see any improvement.
xp sends everything to pagefile even if you have 4GB RAM.
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My pagefile is set to 100Mb (Min/Max).
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post Oct 28 2005, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Oct 28 2005, 11:19 AM)
My pagefile is set to 100Mb (Min/Max).
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no difference, stupid xp will use it no matter what size, disable it and try again.
you will see great improvement without it.
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post Oct 28 2005, 11:34 AM

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Sure, no harm trying. I'll let you know later tonight. Though from what I've read performance benefits (if any) are negligible.

Update (1.50am) : Nope. No performance gains. smile.gif

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post Oct 30 2005, 07:42 PM

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1. Just added another 2 sticks of 256MB to bolster the memory to total of 1.5GB and FEAR, Quake4, BF2 was smooth so silk.

2. However, I need to down the memory timings to 2T and ran the HTT at 200 instead of 237 x 11.

Lesson learnt:
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1. Memory above 1GB has finally seen its use.
2. Disabling pagefile doesn't help; add more physical memory to your typical usage does wonders.
3. There are no differences in terms of gameplay when moving from 2.2gHz to 2.6gHz.
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post Oct 31 2005, 01:03 AM

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OMG...may be one day will get it... smile.gif
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post Oct 31 2005, 01:54 PM

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Personally, i feel fine with my 1gb ram. Even with this slow memory controller and value ram.

I do a lot of high reso photoshop work. maybe 2045x1600 , when the work is filled with maybe 20 layers. My free ram would drop to 100 mb and page file jumps to 800mb

Which the total ram usage for photoshop only is about 1.4GB ( after cutting out windows services ram and idle page file)

I have not tried any pc with > 1GB RAM but i think 1.5GB or 2GB is a very great boost to multitasker or heavy gamers. Remember few years back ago? Having 256 Mb ram is cool but look at now. Anything will change, god knows one day we can do real time unzip/zip our game's file ( It is speculated in ps3 cell processor d)

Anway, i m getting A64x2 this year end. Any good ram to recommend?My budget won't let me get 2GB of high performance ram for sure. Very new to AMD sweat.gif
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post Oct 31 2005, 01:58 PM

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I'm looking at getting this during my trip to Oregon. The prices there are so much cheaper than the hugely inflated prices that Low Yat shops seem to charge for.

Newegg OCZ RAM

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post Oct 31 2005, 03:36 PM

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what if my RAM are low??
Should I raise my pagefile or decrease it??
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post Oct 31 2005, 05:56 PM

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raise , coz by decreasing , u are giving less space for windows to swap files
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 31 2005, 12:58 AM)
I'm looking at getting this during my trip to Oregon. The prices there are so much cheaper than the hugely inflated prices that Low Yat shops seem to charge for.

Newegg OCZ RAM
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You have to remember that newegg has a massive advantage in terms of volume.
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Oct 31 2005, 03:36 PM)
what if my RAM are low??
Should I raise my pagefile or decrease it??
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u know, the weird thing is

even with 1 gb rams, windows hardly uses any of them

so i was wondering if i'm on 2 giggers, disabling it will cause any problems?
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The prices in Lowyat shops are double over what Newegg charges. I'm not sure if that cost advantage is that staggering.

QUOTE(ikanayam @ Oct 31 2005, 06:25 PM)
You have to remember that newegg has a massive advantage in terms of volume.
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post Oct 31 2005, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 30 2005, 07:42 PM)
1. Just added another 2 sticks of 256MB to bolster the memory to total of 1.5GB and FEAR, Quake4, BF2 was smooth so silk.

2. However, I need to down the memory timings to 2T and ran the HTT at 200 instead of 237 x 11.

Lesson learnt:
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1. Memory above 1GB has finally seen its use.
2. Disabling pagefile doesn't help; add more physical memory to your typical usage does wonders.
3. There are no differences in terms of gameplay when moving from 2.2gHz to 2.6gHz.
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Aaaaaah I c. I've been getting the stuttering thingy in FEAR too. I'm on 1Gb. Will go get myself another 512mb then.
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 31 2005, 10:25 PM)
Aaaaaah I c. I've been getting the stuttering thingy in FEAR too. I'm on 1Gb. Will go get myself another 512mb then.
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Don't think it's your RAM, I think it's your GPU.

Fear runs extremely smooth on my AMD64 3000/6800 Ultra rig @ 1280x960x32 with all the performance settings set at medium. And I've got "only" 1GB 3200 RAM too.
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post Oct 31 2005, 11:37 PM

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McDanife,

It is definitely the RAM. Try these settings on your rig and see if you experience stutterings.

1280*960x32
4xAA 16xAF
Performance set to max for everything.

You will see that FEAR will use upto 1.48GB of RAM. When I plugged in 2 more pieces of 256MB on top of my existing 2 x 512MB, it is so smooth! Before, I was having stutterings whenever I go to new levels, reach the side of wall and look what's behind, Opening of doors even with my 7800GTX SLI.

QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Oct 31 2005, 11:29 PM)
Don't think it's your RAM, I think it's your GPU.

Fear runs extremely smooth on my AMD64 3000/6800 Ultra rig @ 1280x960x32 with all the performance settings set at medium. And I've got "only" 1GB 3200 RAM too.
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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Oct 31 2005, 11:29 PM)
Don't think it's your RAM, I think it's your GPU.

Fear runs extremely smooth on my AMD64 3000/6800 Ultra rig @ 1280x960x32 with all the performance settings set at medium. And I've got "only" 1GB 3200 RAM too.
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My game rig is same spec as ure Home rig wat. Even when I ran at Medium settings n only 1024X768(coz didnt know how to add 1280X960 to driver) still got the stuttering thingy like what jarofclay describes.

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