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post Oct 24 2005, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 24 2005, 11:28 AM)
Actually, I dun understand the illusion that disabling pagefile when you have enough RAM is good.

Well, put it this way, you will get an errors or program crashes whenever you need more than 2GB of RAM. Setting it there is just a safety precaution and some programs actually need to detect the presence of a virtual memory in order to work properly.

Have a read here:
Sound on Sound

You will not in anyway get worst performance by enabling the page file because programs would try to use system RAM first anyway. If it really needs page file, and you set it 0, then you may risk crashing the program or OS.
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The way the paging works in windows, it sucks, i have a ram counter, i still see at least ~400-500+mb free and my hdd thrashing like mad while switching progs. Disabling the pagefile is so much smoother. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 24 2005, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 24 2005, 02:48 PM)
It's so expensive, a bit wasted using it as pagefile only.
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but then if that someone can afford it , i doubt it will be a problem biggrin.gif

with the money thing aside , do u still think it will help in performance ?
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post Oct 24 2005, 05:00 PM

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2 gb is really great for xp....apple server can hold up to 40gb of ram...aint tht incredible?...yeah,its cool though..
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Not really, coz the aim for good performance is to do without Pagefile.

And secondly, you had forgotten that the iRAM is put onto a PCI slot which has only 125MB of total bandwidth. It has to share this with sound cards, PATA hdd and other cards that uses the PCI bus.

QUOTE(zx7177 @ Oct 24 2005, 04:35 PM)
but then if that someone can afford it , i doubt it will be a problem  biggrin.gif

with the money thing aside , do u still think it will help in performance ?
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post Oct 24 2005, 05:09 PM

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aik , afaik it was sata

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hav u seen SUN servers ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zx7177 @ Oct 24 2005, 05:09 PM)
aik , afaik it was sata

@mike

hav u seen SUN servers ? tongue.gif
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damn sun servers black

from nvidia use lotz of proc and lots gig of ram! thumbup.gif
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post Oct 24 2005, 06:02 PM

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hiyoh.. this thing will always increase one la.. no point debating.. the last time i remember. 8mb ram whn i was in say.. 1995? was very common.. to use 16 mb considered damn rich liao cause one stick of 8mb is like today 512mb stick!!! so imagine la the difference.. thn 8mb just nice to run warcraft 2. thn if got extra programs really lag liao.. this one say in 1997.. thn needed 16 mb ram.. thn.. slowly.. people hv 128mb.. thn 256.. thn 512. thn 1024.. thn 2gb.. its always increasing la.. u cant say tat u need to upgrade.. wat i do is buy kau kau.. thn last for say 5 years thn buy again.. and another thing. next year new systems everywhere.. like the 64 bit and so on.. better hang on.. wait until really settle down thn continue to invest in this ongoing debate of super tech!!!
for all u know.. really.. in 2008... u would hv tripple core processors.. or better like cell 8 cores.. thn yr graphics card? haha maybe more thn a few core. haha.. i still hv my voodoo card.. damn enthic.. i also hv the oldest la... 386 proccessor.. wish i still had my XT processor. damn haha
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post Oct 24 2005, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(ychwang @ Oct 24 2005, 11:17 AM)
try to do, antivirus scan+spyware scan+video encode+surfnet+watching divx movie, if u on pagefile ur hdd will die faster.
by turning off pagefile, you can save ur hdd life by couple month.
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Haha what kind of old school gives you this idea?
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post Oct 24 2005, 07:31 PM

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Its half correct. With enough ram you wont need the pagefile on the HDD - less wear and tear on the HDD lah.

With insufficient (less than 512mb nowadays) ram, the memory is not enough, so swap file is used all the time no matter what

This post has been edited by ceo684: Oct 24 2005, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(TerTop @ Oct 24 2005, 07:29 PM)
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try to do, antivirus scan+spyware scan+video encode+surfnet+watching divx movie, if u on pagefile ur hdd will die faster.
by turning off pagefile, you can save ur hdd life by couple month.

Haha what kind of old school gives you this idea?
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It's true bcoz u don't need to access hdd tat frequent and keep swapping the files from HDD to RAM and vice versa.

Well, 2GB is needed someday in the future for sure, it depends on how fast and how complex the software progress.
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i'm still running 128MB RDRAM sweat.gif
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post Oct 25 2005, 12:18 AM

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Look forward to DFI's up and coming line of products. The Lanparty UT RDX200 Crossfire has already been tested to be able to handle 4Dimms @ 1T @ DDR405 (maximum). Check Anandtech review of that board to find out the details . I read in a DFI forum that they will be launching 2 more newer boards in the coming weeks. The only setback with that is the ability to only run up to DDR405 anything more will have to use 2T command rate. I have already booked 2GB of HyperX RAM from Dinster in anticipation for the new boards. Makes me wanna go drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif .
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post Oct 25 2005, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(TerTop @ Oct 24 2005, 07:29 PM)
Haha what kind of old school gives you this idea?
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i do this most of time.
doing BT 24hour, then reEncode my tvb drama 40episode need around 40hour continues.
adaware n norton scan together can save some time.

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oh god
quake 4 on 1Gb RAM not enuf
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QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Oct 25 2005, 12:40 AM)
oh god
quake 4 on 1Gb RAM not enuf
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Kind enough for some links on the page that you read that? smile.gif
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post Oct 25 2005, 09:51 AM

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2 GB the way of the future? when is future? 20 years later? 2Gb, is it enough?
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post Oct 25 2005, 11:03 AM

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when vista out next year, 1gb definately not enuf for gaming.

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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 25 2005, 09:46 AM)
Kind enough for some links on the page that you read that? smile.gif
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on my setup , i guess the average was like 20 fps oni

coz at normal time , when nuthin much happenin , it is smooth

but when sumthin burns or pops out all of a sudden ,
ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE
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post Oct 25 2005, 09:58 PM

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hmm..with the specs listed in my sig, issit advisable if i go for 2GB ram?
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post Oct 25 2005, 10:36 PM

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here i got one good article to answer all your doubts....

http://legionhardware.com/document.php?id=468

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