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beawolf64
post Dec 20 2011, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Aiko-chan @ Dec 20 2011, 04:41 PM)
Sounds great! I'm using Petosan toothpaste for them, but have yet to see result on it.
If you're planning to get a breeded cat, please visit your nearby cat show and speak to the breeder in the show itself. A certified FIFE cat (Bengals are not considered as pedigree for CFA yet) is what you should look for. It's not exactly about being "pure breed" or not, this is to ensure that the cat that you buy is free from any inherited disease as you don't know what their parents had.
RM120-RM140, at USJ Taipan.
Cat's ear heal real fast, I don't think anything need to be done to the ear. All cats have nipple, you have to look at their genitals to differentiate female and male. For kitten at this age, you should be able to determine. See: http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/cliented/kittengender.aspx
Savanah are not legal yet to be kept in M'sia as it's considered wild animal. The moment you heard Savanah to be sold locally, it's a con.
Impossible to have it shipped from Sabah and cost only RM300. Microchip, carrier, vaccination, flight ticket also more than 300 edi.
Persian food are designed to suit their lifestyle and encourage fur growth. I don't think you should feed your cat rc32. rc36 is good enough. If you're looking for a better range of food, try Innova Evo or Orijen. These are great grain-free kibbles. Aside that, you can supplement your cat with wet food or steamed chicken.
Guys, it's not hard to get a certified pedigree breed cat. Just visit any cat show and talk to the cat's owner, mostly breeder. They would love to tell you more about it and give you contacts if you're really interested in getting one. A reputable breeder would not stress their cat to give birth more than once or twice a year. You can trace back the cat's ancestor and look out for inherited disease, to ensure your cat are all healthy when you got it. A reputable breeder would encourage you to visit their house, have a look at their living environment, how sociable is the cat, telling you all the personality and habits of it. They will also educate you about the breed, how to take care of them etc. All pedigree cat sold to be house hold pet are neutered. This is to prevent illegal breeding of their cats. Kittens are off to their new family at minimum 16-18weeks old. This is also to ensure there is no major sickness in the kitten.

In the opposite, backyard breeder(pet shops especially) are totally different. They purely breed the cat to sell their litters. We're cat lovers, yet we're going to ignore the fact of how hard is it to give birth? Backyard breeders give no damn about it, they would just let their cat anyhow mate, give birth and once it reaches 1-2months, sell. These cats are totally breeding machine. Their litters usually will not survive long as well, 10 years if you're lucky, else it would probably last 3-4years only.
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Totally agree with u Aiko-chan....but 1 thing that im not agreed is savannah not available in Malaysia...try google for Forestwood cattery own by Mr. Samy the lawyer lol...he do own a pair of serval plus producing his own line of pedigree serval...Mr thomas oii also have one if im not mistaken.interested on serval?make sure u really have a deep pocket...if im not mistaken RM35k/tail comes with licence.Malaysia have savanah breeder in sabah...try google the website(i forgot the cattery name lol)..FiFe recognize bengal as a pedigree breed,the same as TICA...so for me its still ok CFA doesnt except bengal as a Pedigree breed..every breed have their own speciality & personality..so make sure which one satify your need...But some local cattery a fussy...very leceh to deal one...so good luck to anyone who try to get their own pedigree cat.sometime i not really blaming any cattery about the pricing on their cat..some breed are rare and not totally establish in Malaysia...so try to compare the price from local cattery and overseas cattery..maybe local cattery cheaper around 1-3k than overseas.of course la,they buy the parentage in overseas price...or some of it come from champion line(CH,QCH as example.)...Like Bengals...most cattery in Malaysia(but not all)registered as The International Bengal Cat Society (TIBCS) and tie on TIBCS Code Of Ethics..but yeah,human can fake almost everything...so choose well from which cattery your future kitten will come from..not just based from the price..but the quality and health factor.(very kesian la cat been keep as a breeding machine).

Serval + Domestic or Bengal = Savanah ( F1 )
Asian Leopard Cat + Domestic = Bengal ( F1 )

ps: (sorry for my broken English... whistling.gif )

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post Dec 20 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Aiko-chan @ Dec 20 2011, 08:48 PM)
Serious? Because so far I've yet to see any savannah in shows or in local cat fancy pages, my friends does not know much about any available savannah cattery/owner so I assumed that it's not legal yet to own one here. Yeah I know about the pricing for savannah. Even in US itself it cost minimum 10k USD each.
Well, majority well known breed are acknowledge by CFA, so cattery only register them under CFA but not in other association. Do we have TICA association locally?
Indeed, pick breed that suits your lifestyle is the most important thing. Like if decide to get a long hair cat, need to have the commitment to groom them at least once a week. Short hair cat need lesser grooming but if you have a very vocal and active cat like Siamese, need to keep them accompanied or entertained. Else the cat like you buy back home, give them a bigger cage to live only. =(
Cattery being fussy also is a good thing what, that shows how much their care about their babies. So far the ones I've dealt with and know are pretty much really nice people. I do update status of the cat from time to time, so I think they don't bother much for me? Lololol. Cattery litter's price are totally not complain-able. Think about the amount they spent to import a cat, all the trip to vet, vaccination, taking care of the litters, are all not easy. The effort spent in order to ensure the quality and health are priceless. Paying that amount is pretty much just giving them a little credit for what they've done and some extra for future planning. Most breeder do cattery as a hobby, but not business. ~__~ Which is why it's important to look for a reputable breeder. Boycott backyard breeder!
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again i agree with you...hehehe...MCFA registered under TICA....they organizing event link to TICA in Malaysia.like my cat,they are super duper active player...24hours wanna play only...hahaha...sometime they kiss me when i asleep..lol...About pricing issue,you get for what u pay....anyway for me i love anybreed of cat,either pedigree,dsh,dlh...i love them all...Bengal are my 4 years dream...finally i have them on my own...aiming for ALC after relocated to new house that suite to my hobby and Special Permit Requirement...i rescue a baby ALC before..keeping them a few month then giving them back to Perhilitan...what can i say is,ALC are so very clever,intellingent and beautiful creature..i hope i can get them back to my family.hehehe..google up for Malaysia savanah & serval owner..Malaysia up to date too...lololol
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post Dec 22 2011, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(AXMONZA @ Dec 22 2011, 01:28 PM)
There are NO savannah cat available or savannah cattery in Malaysia yet! Samy, Thomas Ooi and Kittunkatz do have Serval/s but owning serval and producing savannah are totally different matter. I assume they tried to produce savannah but till now to no avail. Just imagine trying to mate a domestic cat with serval which is 3 times bigger than domestic cat!
As for the Sabah's breeder (http://malsavannahs.blogspot.com/), it's not operational yet as they're only planning to bring in Savannah (not serval) direct from US & UK, not by mating serval and domestic cat like Samy, Ooi & Kittun tried.
As for savannah legal issue, i think it shud be similar to Bengals as they are not really wild animal but a hybrid but it's still in grey area for Perhilitan as there are no savannah in M'sia yet!
For Beowulf, dont think you'll ever get a permit to keep ALC as they strictly stated in their FB that permit for ALC are ONLY given to registered organisation such as zoos, parks, research ctr etc. You are 2 years late coz i know someone who did get the permit for ALC by bribing perhilitan officer BUT since the Anson Wong scandal followed by a number of perhilitan officers picked up by BPR, it's impossible. But i think there's still a way...the same way as Samy & kitunkatz get their permit for Servals... by importing them... the main reason perhilitan didn't give permit to individual is bcoz to protect the wildlife in M'sia, so if you import them, it's totally different story...
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hehehe...im not intend to catch or get them from Malaysia...let the wild remain in wild enviroment,i been thinking to get them from overseas and already have which cattery in mind..they have a very stunning ALC,very nice patterning..come from a very good ALC parentage.i talk to someone who really work in perhilitan,yeah like u said before,there's a way to get it.. a legal way of course...but if i fail to get them ,no problem at all,its still ok...that only my dream..so maybe after having 2 or 3 more bengal then i will re-think about it. im not despreate for money to do massive breeding and selling a kitten..just my passion on bengal cat.everyone have their own view about cat.Hybrid wild sp with domestic sp are illegal based on 716 act..does it mean F1 are totally illegal and need permit to have them?i already talk to several friend in perhilitan,they said its totally illegal,but when i ask about cattery who own ALC for F1 breeding,they cant give any answer lol...they ask me to call HQ about that question... sweat.gif ..anyway thanks axmonza for your info...yehhooo!!...next year gonna have 1 more bengal to come...this time it gonna be from far away.....Insyallah!... rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(chrono_breaks @ Dec 22 2011, 06:54 PM)
Hi sorry to interrupt. But MCFA has been banned by TICA, so now they are not having any license to make a show under TICA. That why the show at Sunway Pyramid recently they did not mention which register they are with. The show at Sunway Pyramid recently only a fun show not pedigree show.
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shocking.gif owh ic...i dont know that... sweat.gif so theres no longer any local assocation will organize TICA event in Malaysia? but still can go watch great cat in CFA & Fife event smile.gif biggrin.gif

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post Dec 22 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(chrono_breaks @ Dec 22 2011, 07:54 PM)
That the sad thing, I would love to see a cat from all register in the world having their show in malaysia. So far now we can only see beautiful bengal in FiFe show in Malaysia but sadly the well known bengal breeder in Malaysia have not been in that show.  cry.gif
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yea...CFA event i can go watch maine coon,persian and other in action,after this maybe only in Fife show we can see Bengal in ring...do you know why MCFA been banned by TICA?
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post Dec 23 2011, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(AXMONZA @ Dec 23 2011, 01:09 AM)
Many people have complaint about MCFA president, Ismail Mohd Ali for involving in illegal activities especially regarding pedigree certificate and the complaint have been made to TICA....read this : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?...&highlight=mcfa.  Also : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?...&highlight=mcfa.
He also owned a pet shop cum clinic BUT with bad reputation, read this : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?t=2380.
So it's obvious that TICA have acted from the complaints made...
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owh ic....that bad...so maybe no more future TICA champion cat in Malaysia...that sad...anyway thanks for the info axmonza...
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post Dec 23 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(D_L @ Dec 23 2011, 09:12 AM)
i think u can put the cat up for adoption at petfinder or at the adoption thread....sory can't help u much
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yup..just put in petfinder for adoption...good luck..
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post Jan 3 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(TheMainMan @ Jan 2 2012, 01:42 PM)
People of the cat society! me and my gf is planning to adopt a cat.. any suggestions or signs to choose which cat that likes us the most?
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Let the cat choose you... nod.gif .... doh.gif but sometimes cat that are selling in petshop are totally manja lol

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post Jan 5 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(totti 10 @ Jan 5 2012, 09:57 AM)
My gf new blue tabby BSH

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rclxms.gif Congrats
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post Jan 6 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(rozitahalim @ Jan 5 2012, 03:45 PM)
would like to share a picture of one of my furry babies here smile.gif

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rclxms.gif very nice cat..... biggrin.gif im sure she/he manja a lot
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post Jan 9 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Aiko-chan @ Jan 7 2012, 10:11 PM)
Why give Iams? It's not really a good food to begin with, unless you're feeding on the higher end of IAMS food which is not available here.
Try giving grain-free kibbles, those are way better (Orijen, Innova evo, addiction etc etc)r. Occasional home made food is good supplement as well. Give them better food and they will live longer.
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skip on innova evo....for me,they are so expensive but not worth it...now innova evo not own by Natura anymore... the current management have a bad record on cat food product before...before this many ppl tell me that if i using Evo,i need to control on 'how many' and 'how often' to feed the cat.after feeding them on scheduled routine for past 2 week :-

Male - diarrhea
Female - diarrhea

my feeding routine :-

Twice a day for Evo kibble(control quantity)chicken turkey and 24 hours clean water supply
Meanwhile at night-wet cat food (innova Evo)chicken turkey

plus the are free roaming indoor cat and always exercise..
Now i change to another product and totally waste my extra 5-6 kilo of Innova Evo expiring on Nov 2012

Maybe my cat are not suit for this kibble.but after reading some review about this product in webs,many loyal user of this kibble already change to other coz some of their cat having trouble with it just like me...


so my advice,choose wisely before buying...not all the expensive one are good,not all the cheap one are bad... smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(vng69 @ Jan 10 2012, 10:18 AM)
how can i find a munchkin?! im still lost!
some help and advise pls~
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why dont you try PUSAKA RIMBA CATTERY or Mount Ophir Cattery.....they breed muchkin....or maybe you can ask forumer name cutiepie69..if im not mistaken she also own muchkin...
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post Jan 11 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(CutiePie69 @ Jan 11 2012, 11:37 AM)
Here is pictures of my baby Munchkin.

This is baby has the shortest legs.
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drool.gif so nice....very cute....
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(vng69 @ Jan 11 2012, 03:09 PM)
thanks a lot!! ^^


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whats the difference between non-standard and standard?
i would really like to take a look at them as i never seen a munchkin b4 but i'm planning to get 1 for my bestie.
all i know that munchkin has short legs. LOL!!
is there a way for me to come take a look at those cuties?
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no problem smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 13 2012, 09:15 AM)
Can give the clinic's name?
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hmmm...yes....i like dealing with them(UPM Vet Clinic)...very nice and friendly doctor...Just the waiting issue bothers ppl....but for me its normal and acceptable

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post Jan 19 2012, 08:24 AM

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hi guys....any one have experience about female cat became skinny when she reach her puberty?(i mean 1st on-heat cycle lol)...
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post Jan 20 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(CutiePie69 @ Jan 20 2012, 11:07 AM)
I am afraid not  sad.gif
Usually when a cat has an eye infection due to colds we must ensure that the eyes are really taken care of.
If not this will happen.
If its not life threatening then I suppose you can leave it there but if it is then you have no choice but to have the eyes removed.
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yeah...carefull in making a decision....im sure vet know the best for that cat....i hope everything going to be ok....good luck
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post Jan 26 2012, 02:00 PM

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sweat.gif Bad experience in park yesterday....

sweat.gif someone shout 'shuhhhh!!' to my cat's while they playing...
Reason - rclxub.gif My silly Jebat chase his dog's away lol...poor husky....if u are rotts or Dober..of course my cat will be sardine whistling.gif ... shakehead.gif nextime dont ever think to "kacau" his girlfriend lol..

My Silly Jebat Perkasa 'Lanci' flex.gif

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post Jan 26 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 26 2012, 02:46 PM)
you kembiri(laugh.gif) both of them?
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Nope....Still not 'sunat' yet....maybe after 1-2 litter.....2 month more to go before Tiara reach 1 years...then she will be ready...pict show jebat in 5month in age and Tiara 8 month in age...

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post Jan 26 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Listiani @ Jan 26 2012, 02:55 PM)
Looking at his gorgeous cats, I doubt he neuter/spay them.
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Thanks... blush.gif


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so u dont wanna have little baby jebat & tiara?
same breed right?

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Maybe just 1-2 litter...Tiara will be spayed and life with us...yes ..they both from same breed,but
Jebat more updated marking from Tiara.......

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 26 2012, 03:11 PM)
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good luck. theyre gorgeous nod.gif
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Thanks a Lot ......but they are Totally Nasty.........!!!!!! hmm.gif maybe they allergic to cotton buds,toilet tissue and newspaper...
if they find it unguard,those thing will be history shakehead.gif ...hope you guys can get a cat of your dreams....!!enjoys.... thumbup.gif


My first cat rescue for new year 2012..... thumbup.gif already go to a good house!!!Thanks Mr. Zackie a.k.a Uncle Jack from Jabatan Pelajaran Selangor, Shah Alam
for giving this cat a new home and warm bed to sleep... rclxms.gif he's a really good owner. nod.gif

Picture show she a.k.a khatty at Veterinar Sekyen 15 Shah Alam for medical attention before leaving to a new home two week ago...found her infront of clinic
at Alam Megah without any other sibling or mom...so kesian..now she already in good home....

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