hi guys. its always debatable which one is the good graphic card for our laptop/PC. currently im searching laptop and I choose ASUS. now, what confusing me is the graphic card for the laptop. im not heavy gamer, but at least i can play COD: black ops on my laptop at least medium setting These are my choices (both can play in high setting );




does the windows exp index matter? gaming graphics for ATI and Nvidia is 6.8 and 6.7 respectively and graphic desktop performance for aero is 6.5 and 5.7 respectively

as I ask salesperson. most of them recommend me to buy ATI. its hardly to find ASUS performance series using ATI, most of them GeForce GT 520M to 540M. there are only one using ATI which is Radeon HD 6370M. as i read the review on notebookcheck.com, the gc mostly the same.

ATI link >>> http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD...0M.43959.0.html

Nvidia link >>> http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForc...0M.41715.0.html

these are the rumours/myth that i heard about ATI VS NVidia.

1. ATI always go on performance compare than Nvidia. Nvidia mostly view the graphics setting Ultra in most games but the performance, gameplay smoothness always win for ATI.

2. ATI is more have more lifespan compare than Nvidia due to when running laptop at normal status, ATI will go operating on intergrated gc, while Nvidia cannot.

3. Most games recommends Nvidia?

This is what i heard, this doesnt mean I am bias towards ATI, but this is what i heard from salesperson and some read on the intehnet.

sorry for the lengthy post

thanks in advance for ur view its really hard for me to choose between two

1. Its nVidia that goes to the performance, with more cost.
2. Both can switch integrated/dedicated GPU.
3. nVidia pays a lot

Performance wise, it's a close call.

What is the price for both?
If the ATI one is cheaper, you should go for it.

If the price is almost the same, personally, I'd vote for nVidia.
For it's superior driver.

Just some recent reviews on AMD & nVidia driver.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Dynamic-S...us.64378.0.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4970/rage-ag...hmark-machine/3
ATI has not improved on her drivers.

1. hmm.nvidia is the performance? thanks for convincing me
2. oic, i just read last nite, mostly gc like that. but its really are? because some gc i see they put intergrated hd 4xx. but some dont mention.is there are same?
3. huhu.if the performance really same. what do u mean pay a lot? we pay a lot to buy nvidia or nvidia pay the game maker a lot in order to use their gc.lol

hmm.in this case, nvidia is cheaper. the price with nvidia is 2249 MYR while with ati is 2399 MYR. huhu..thanks for the link.i not read it yet.maybe read it at the office

thanks for ur reply! really appreciate it.i want to go buy maybe today or tommorow. or maybe after i read the review from the sifu's here

Asus A43SA-VX038V = 640GB HDD + 2GB VRAM

ASUS A43SU-VX203U = 500GB HDD + 1GB VRAM

that is why the price is different

Nvidia latest creation would be Batman Arkham City. Interesting to see how the game will perform with AMD graphics.
6730M is DDR3 version of 6770M.


+1 on AMD driver support being inferior but i honestly think their drivers did improved in the past 6 months. There are behind 1 or 2 steps.

Hope there is a fix.
The flickering issue on my Radeon5650 has not been fixed. It's already EOL now.

oic.nvr realize that.sorry hmm.200+ MYR diff. still weighing the decision

the article is written on 19/10/2011. its very updated i think

is all Nvidia gc using Optimus Technology or only some of that? is that apply to GeForce GT 540M?

A43Sv don't have Optimus..

this model use PowerXpress 4.0?

It's more important to compare against that 2 GPU head to head (instead of generally about AMD and nVidia):

In term of performance, 6730 will win most of them time against 540m. Look at the comparison in the graph below, 540m win only in 2 areas.

This is consistent with my understanding that 540m is just a rebanding (and increased clock speed) of old GT 420M. They both have 96 cores.

GeForce GT 540M 96@672MHz
GeForce GT 420M 96@500MHz

It's proven in multiple times that my old AMD 5650 (OC) can beat all GT 540M (OC). My AMD 5650 only has 400 cores: Mobility Radeon HD 5650 400@450-650MHz

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1867887/+80
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?amp;show...post&p=42357308
http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/55330...tml#post7536031
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=43242621

My challenge still open for any 540m owner:

Street Fighter 4 score: 12391 (1366x768)
3dmark Vantage: P5035
3dmark 11:P1455
- Graphic score: 1352

The AMD 6730 with 480@725MHz will surely performance better than both 5650 and 540m.


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What happened to your GT555M Y470 bro? No more stock?

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Added on October 25, 2011, 3:03 pm
Maybe the overclockability on that HD6730M is as good as HD6770M. What matters now is the temperature.

This post has been edited by Acid_RuleZz: Oct 25 2011, 03:03 PM

A43SV or A43SU bro? i think i mention A43SU.

based on netbooktech, Radeon HD 6730 got no PowerXpress 4.0. hmm, and A43SV also got no Optimus. So, technically same eh both gc

thanks for the link!! hmm.go for ATI eh? but 540m seems enough already

my budget is around 2.3k bro. i really love to play games. but not hardcore. for me at least COD: black ops is enough. i know if Battlefield 3 require higher gc. i wnt to do work and play game a little bit with my laptop

so does ATI got temp prob? thats mean ATI is more prone to heat compare to Nvidia? really?

GT540 owners, com'on, post your OC results here.

From what I see is A43Sv..

uhuhu.u OC ur GT 540M. i dont dare to do that yet if i buy laptop with that gc

ops.im sory, it was A43SV. i just see it in the catalog. thanks for correcting that!!

No, i think AMD run much cooler because of the lower power consumption.

thanks for the link! i finish read the whole topic already
hmm.i just read notebookcheck.net thoroughly. the 500-series support Optimus i hope they're right.huhu

im doing my homework.most of internet review told that ATI consume less power than Nvidia for same performance gfx im confuse now.

500-series does support Optimus, but its not a must to implement it..

+1 asus a43s doesnt hav it... the n55 does, on the gt555

go for A43SA..i've studied at notebookcheck about both GC 4 times already and 6730 really pwned 540..so,if u buy A43SA,it's worth a lot=]

Regarding GC issue and comparison that we subjected.......
We are always pushing hard our GC above limit........
Overclocked,High setting game...even though the performance is limited.
Why....we're still hunger for being the top right.pity for the GC working more than he can..........

what its nivia with cuda core...also nvidia optimus...can explen a abit pless...

CUDA: http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_home_new.html
Optimus: nVidia's way for auto switching GPU mechanism, Integrated GPU or Integrated GPU + Dedicated GPU.

well, personally, and usually, i'll reccommend you the AMD 6730 card, however, since both card are actually head to head each other, and you have the money, why not the nvidia 540?

since nvidia did pay developers to use their CUDA cores in games, why not?

if the graph is right, even my "really old" HD4670 can OC to get 3DMark06 8277 points, from peanut 6k++ points.... so why not the newer 6730 (that have much2 larger OC headroom) cant be OC'ed like nuts?

Hi. How about heat issue?

which one runs cooler? I read through some comparison. in overall ati runs cooler and quieter compare to nvidia.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvidia-...th-the-wait-/19

do you think this review helps?

anyway, i am also considering these 2 laptops with i5 2410

yup, you read it right, ATI cards runs much more cooler now. Thanks to nvidia's engineer magic. They forgot the heat and power issue and just concentrate on performance.

I love ATI really, but now games developer always use nvidia. I dunno why. Did nvidia pay them?

I forgot where, but I've read even Video encoding using CUDA yield worst results. Even Intel GMA can produce much2 better video Encode than CUDA. ATI using openCL produce OK results, but ultimately CPU encoding produce best quality encodes.

last time i can safely say that nvidia>ati/amd but now its really neck to neck

nvidia have better drivers generally but amd is improving a lot

few things you can take advantage in a NVIDIA mobile gpu is the Optimus and their CUDA cores

Optimus = better battery life management
CUDA = not very familiar with it but you can work faster and better in multimedia with it

CUDA is only good for the programs that uses them. List of programs could be found here. Most of them are professional application though

Optimus is a funky name for switchable graphics, it seamlessly changing between integrated GPU (such as Intel HD) and dedicated nvidia graphics when it detect certain application that requires more power, usually 3D games and apps. Its so seamless you don't detect when does it switch, the only indication you could see is enable a small NVIDIA GPU activity on Notification area and see whether the nvidia card is be used or not.

I read through one of the lowyat post, i think is "GT540m POISON". That is the post where GT540m users share their gaming experience.

One of the pro user use software to test the temperature of the GPU. The temperature reached about 81 degree when playing games. (i think the games is Battlefield). Is that consider hot or normal?

Apparently GT540M has many user compare to AMD 6730M. Is it because AMD 6730M new GPU?

There are people saying that Intel I5 with NV card is better, compare to I5 with AMD card. Myth or truth?

I now have a laptop, compaq CQ40 (AMD Turion + ATI Radeon HD3200). The laptop is very hot and noise when running heavy application or games. I am not sure it is due to CPU or GPU.

MY priority concern is reliability, coolness and noise level. I want the GPU to be reliable, quiet, not hot / less power consumption.

Among NV GT540M and AMD 6730M which one will you guys suggest?



This post has been edited by jorakman: Nov 23 2011, 10:31 AM

mostly lappy come with GT540M cos cheaper & easy to obtain it. original stock GT540M > HD5650 but when guys go for OC HD5650 > GT550M so no need said GT540M lah

if 6730 compare with 540. i will go for 6730. if 555 compare with 6730.. i go for 555.. if 6770 compare with 555 i go for 6770!

GT 540M is popular because there are lots of manufacturer uses it. Probably they getting some discount when buying in bulk or something.

81C is quite high, but acceptable. It could run up to 110C before it start taking damage, not permanent but it will reduce lifespan. Laptop component could handle more heat than desktop counterparts.

The heat from CQ40 is due to CPU mostly, but cooling in that laptop aren't good as well.

There isn't any myth, its just common misconception of people thinking some combo works better than others.

Any dedicated GPU uses more power and produce more heat than an integrated GPU. Its not purely depends on the GPU or CPU in the laptop that leads to heat, but also chassis design and also heatsink fan that uses to cool them down. So its just a matter of reading the review of the actual laptop could determine whether it would run cool or it will poaching your eggs.

Its up to you really, read reviews on HD 6730M performance here and GT 540M performance here.

My fren also told me the same thing. He said there must be something wrong with the chassis design and also heatsink fan of CQ40.

So far the laptop Asus A43SA (AMD 6730m) and A43SV (NV GT540m) is ok in the market? no negative feedback?

go for AMD 6730M if another is come with GT540M nvidia slightly cheaper due to many reason not only just graphics card. pls take note!

for me ...amd ati gpu more powerfull...

what a nice, after reading this thread...
I think I want to save my money to buy asus a43sa

haha.. a few years ago I use ati 3650, now I will use Ati again for the laptop

6730M ftw