+999999.totally agree.

is it because of our mentality or our football standard has been very low that most of the parents want their children to go to universities instead of being footballer?

Yea agree. It is all about character and attitude. Not what u do but how u do. If u don't have the fundamental, even u do a simple thing a great thing or bad thing also cannot success.

The main problem is the attitude and character in our players and society. As what I mentioned before, ppl will opt for simple way to live their life, a less hardwork. Of course is nothign wrong, but if u want to be the best you must think the best, do the best, work the best.

Saya secara peribadi bersetuju 100% dengan inference ini. Saya sendiri dahulunya ( semasa kanak2 dan awal remaja ) merupakan seorang penjaga gol yang agak berbakat, tetapi saya mula focus on studies semasa berumur 14 tahun ( kebetulan pada masa itu pencapaian saya dalam studies agak memberangsangkan apabila saya focus 100% ). Tambahan pula saya agak lambat membesar dari segi ketinggian ( umur 17 tahun baru fully grown in terms of height, nak jadi keeper tahap dunia memang kena tinggi, tinggi saya hanyalah 171cm jadi saya tak yakin mampu make it big in World level as a GK ). Kalau nak berjaya hanya dalam South East Asian level saya rasa saya mampu...Ini terbukti kerana saya pernah tidak aktif selama lebih kurang 3 tahun, tetapi apabila saya mula aktif kembali bermain futsal hujung minggu, sentuhan dan reflex saya sebagai GK masih ada, ianya tidak hilang, cuma perlu training dengan lebih kerap. ( btw umur saya sekarang dah 27 tahun ).

Ditambah lagi dengan environment bola sepak Malaysia yg agak tidak memberangsangkan ( saya membesar belasan tahun semasa zaman pertengahan 90an dan awal 2000 ), tiada blueprint dan football environment yang sangat cemerlang seperti Jepun, Korea dan Australia. Pengalaman saya semasa mewakili sekolah rendah dahulu, guru2 yang menjaga bahagian bola sepak langsung tidak mempunyai qualification dan ilmu bola sepak yg cukup. Sekadar tangkap muat sahaja, sangat berbeza apabila saya bermain mewakili peringkat kelab remaja semasa saya berumur 15 tahun...

Tambahan pula injury adalah masalah yg paling ditakuti football players ( ramai talented players yg sudah effected long term, seperti Azrul Amri Borhan, Zaquan Adha dan ramai lagi ), apa lagi dengan career span yg hanya sehingga berumur 35 tahun sahaja. Paling sedih apabila melihat pemain seperti Khairul Azman Mohamad dan beberapa lagi pemain yg cedera teruk selepas retired, sehingga ada ketikanya tidak mampu untuk bekerja sebagai coach sekalipun ( lantaran injury, tak mampu berjalan hanya boleh berkerusi roda. Perlu perbelanjaan rm16K untuk knee op. ).

Akan tetapi, saya teramat merindui zaman semasa saya aktif bermain bola dahulu ketika awal remaja, tiap2 hari 2, 3 jam sehari dihabiskan untuk bermain bola sepak. Zaman yg sangat carefree dan enjoyable. Walaupun kini saya masih aktif bermain futsal terutamanya pada waktu malam hujung minggu, ini tidak dapat dibandingkan dengan zaman ketika saya bermain bola sepak secara penuh komitmen pada masa dahulu.

P/S : Parents saya juga tida berapa support dari segi aktiviti saya ini. Bapa saya tidak pernah membelikan saya but bola sepak ataupun apa2 football equipments untuk saya ( saya datang dari lower-middle income family dengan adik beradik yg ramai ). Lama kemudian apabila saya sudah agak dewasa, bapa saya pernah confess yg dia sebenarnya support secara senyap, tidak secara terbuka( ini terbukti apabila difikirkan balik, dia tidak pernah menghalang saya daripada menghadiri latihan bola sepak, dan hanya akan marah2 apabila saya lambat sembahyang maghrib, ye lah habis training hanya pada pukul 8 malam, masa itu lagi 5 minit nak masuk waktu Isya' ), dan dia memang boleh bagi mental support kepada saya kalau saya memang ada big achievement dan ingin meneruskan to make it big in football, asalkan saya tidak mengabaikan studies.

Pointnya kat sini? Pencapaian bola sepak Malaysia pada masa itu yg agak teruk dan environment yg tidak condusive. Kecuali lah anda amat berbakat seperti Fandi Ahmad dan Mokhtar Dahari, mungkin ini bukan masalah bagi anda...You still can make it big no matter what.

This post has been edited by Icahn: Nov 13 2011, 08:29 PM

dont force the issue...try alternative...i think sport school mcm BJ dan BP already done their part...now every states should have their own sport school...if you attend sport school you will get almost everything...equipment..kits..training...enough as a kick-start to be a professional footballer...clubs can also provide scholarship to the talented youngsters to continue learning football from the sport school...be patron to the kids..with sport school...parents cant argue about the money...about the time management...(solat...study...dll)..and about education...the way i see this sport school mcm bdk2 BJ usually akan continue bwh Harimau Muda B...then Harimau Muda A...if the players for example from any sport school at pahang...can continue for Pahang reserves...personally with current mentallity and our culture...one of the solution will be more and more sport school...or sport school special for football...but school part must be there...

This post has been edited by Ichighost: Nov 13 2011, 08:41 PM

school teachers that specialise in football are rare and but can be found in project schools all over the country. Schools like Seksen 11 Shah Alam and Sultan Sulaimain at Terengganu are example of project schools that create many national team players...

The thing is coaching licenses aren't all that hard to attain especially if it's to oversee kids. My colleague just got his after a couple of weeks. We need to start at grassroot level, something you hear quite often in the papers but never really see addressed. Kids need to be spotted at a primary level and Physical Ed teachers need to have basic coaching expertise at least to cultivate their talent. Not everyone can afford to send their kids for coaching clinics.

hehe ..smp s11 .. ikut pngalaman aku skolah kt situ, the teachers there are very2 supportive when it come to sports.. tp silap budak2 ni jugak la salah kawan, join gangster la, isap rokok, etc ..discipline issue, benda2 ni la yg menghalang diorang utk pegi lebih jauh ..

seriously?
i thought he would be a class above the guys in malaysia

Yes, there are set of young player that are more exciting to watch in MAS - U23 squad.

senang je, berapa byk teams yang berani spend 2-3 juta utk akademi je?
jawapan aku takde.

tiap2 tahun nak piala presiden kena carik player baru buat open selection..masalahnye mana player akademi yang dorang dok canang tu?

Piala Presiden bukan level akademi bolasepak dah..tu level antara ko dapat main liga atasan atau main semi pro weekend football je

i think we should give more attention to IPT league as well

these lads(obviously depending on their University,some Universities give much attention to their football team,some ain't) is a huge untapped source for footballing talent as well.only now we give attention to IPT players

it should be easier,since the infrastructure at universities are adequate to begin with and the only thing needed is some endorsement from state and country FA.and technical expertise as well

This is spot on. Negara yg mengamalkan benda ni dengan successful ialah Japan dan US. As an example, Nagatomo ( Inter Milan ) decided to further his studies first kat uni, tapi dia still represent his uni ( his uni has a strong football programme and environment ).

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Added on November 14, 2011, 4:24 pmHmm, tetapi pengalaman aku secara peribadi, sejak aku berumur 13 tahun lagi aku bersekolah kat sekolah agama premier ( among the best school ) in Kelantan masa tu. Walaupun ianya sekolah harian ( aku ada senior yg represent Malaysia in football from this school, even adik dia pun still main lagi dalam Liga Super sekarang ni ), tetapi kerana ia merupakan sekolah yg sangat akademik, penuh competition academically dan dikelilingi oleh so many smart students, aku jadi terdesak untuk excel academically, jadi since 14 years old aku slowly kurangkan aktiviti bola sepak untuk focus kat akademik. Kalau SSBJ dan SSBP ada fokus akademik yg sama hebat dan sama competitive seperti premier schools ni ( dengan harapan students takkan abaikan studies ), aku rasa parents takkan ada sebarang keraguan untuk menghantar anak2 mereka ke sekolah2 seperti ini.

Aku x pernah ada kenalan yg belajar kat sport schools seperti ini, jadi aku memang takde pengalaman mengenai persekitaran dan environment sekolah2 macam SSBP ni.

Off topic = dulu aku ada satu set of friends ( medical n engineering students ) yang memang power gila main bola ( kitorang selalu main futsal bersama ). Aku tak rasa diorang ada masalah untuk compete mewakili Malaysia kalau diorang belajar kat sports school sejak daripada remaja lagi.

Btw dulu ada sorang pemain Kelantan, nama Nik apa ntah, habiskan belajar sehinggi engineering degree, baru dia decide untuk main bola professionally untuk Kelantan. Sekarang dah retired.....

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Added on November 14, 2011, 4:32 pm Kelantan pun baru nak start dengan ARMY, tu pun sejak TSAM pegang. Zaman aku budak2 dulu memang takde sangat program macam ni. Negeri2 lain aku x tau, tapi aku dengar Kenari Kids dulu memang bagus gak.

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Added on November 14, 2011, 4:42 pmBtw pada pendapat aku ( dan sesetengah orang ) antara bangsa yang paling berbakat main bola walaupun mungkin diorang takde football development yg bagus, pada peringkat Asia ialah bangsa Iraq. Generasi yg menang Piala Asia 07 dan ke semi final Olympic 2004 adalah antara yg paling cemerlang walaupun negara diorang bergolak dengan perang dan penuh kacau bilau. Korang bayangkan dengan keadaan akademi bola pun mungkin tak berjalan dengan lancar diorang mampu conquer Asia dan excel in Olympic, kalau diorang ada football development, financial backing dan exposure yang setaraf dengan Jepun, mungkin dah lama diorang conquer in international level.

Satu lagi cuba korang tengok, kenapa orang Algeria yg lahir dan membesar dekat Perancis boleh jadi world class footballers seperti Zidane, Samir Nasri, dan Karim Benzema, sedangkan hanya baru2 ini je Algeria layak ke World Cup 2010, dan bangsa Algeria memang tidak terkenal sebagai negara kuasa bola sepak. Pada pendapat aku, of course kerana football development dan exposure yang sangat bagus kat Perancis itu sendiri, so that talents can be developed to the max.

This post has been edited by Icahn: Nov 14 2011, 04:44 PM

the truth is, the overall handling of Physical Education in the academic community need to be changed first. Currently there are no impetus for PE teachers to upgrade themselve because PE as a subject is not taken as important compare to other academic subjects...

frankly speaking, sports are something where one ministry has to do the petty grassroot job but another ministry gets the credit if it succeed.... in Malaysia, that is a recipe for work never got done..

my wish is for the goverment to apply a scheme to retrain retired athlete to become 'special' school teachers. Currently this idea will be shot down if the gov want to reduce the big public workforce, but i like for this idea to give a special consideration as it has a snowball effect to both student and teachers. Student will get opportunity to learn from first hand experience and the former athlete will have a more stable life after retiring and this will be a bridge for them to get the appropriate coaching license if the want to pursue to become pro coach.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 14 2011, 05:46 PM

malaysia mix everything to football... not just football but also everything or any sports...

what they mix?

the best thing they mix with is "race" and "religions".

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Typical answer with no constructive content.

You are right there. I remember during my days in school that PE was a ponteng class type subject. There wasn't a focus on a specific sport or game. You went to the field and either got chucked on the football pitch or the basketball court and it was a free for all. No referees, no guidance, nothing. You had to join the sports clubs for that and not every student can whether it's because they have to help out their parents with work after school, or they had to study. Even when I did attend football or basketball after school, the teacher's knowledge was pretty basic and his task was more about selecting good players rather than improving every player. Potential isn't always evident right away.

I think the same problem is plaguing PE teachers. They aren't getting paid enough. It's pretty simple. How much does a teacher get? I remember that in math, I came up with equations my teacher couldn't comprehend as I liked exploring formulas and deriving alternate solutions. My only fear about introducing retired athletes is unless he had a pretty successful footballing career during and post playing, the kids going to look at him and go, "what? play football all my life and end up with a mediocre car and house?". I think the Ministry of Education should look into sending all PE teachers to coaching clinics as a first step and develop a more systematic approach to monitoring school kids e.g. monthly report cards, video footages, etc and that make it a KPI for these PE teachers. I mean there are so many schools around we can't send them all former players.

An article that sums up why we will never be better than japan in anything...



A nation of sports couch potatoes

By Umapagan Ampikaipakan | 0 comments

CULTURE CHANGE: We need to do more to support our champions

Nicol David made history twice last week by being the first active player in the history of the game to be inducted into the World Squash Federation Hall of Fame and by winning a record sixth Women’s World Open crown. - AFP

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We do not have a sporting culture in this country. Which isn't to say we don't enjoy it. We Malaysians are the perennial sports fans. (There are, after all, 10 dedicated sports channels on television.) We are ardent observers. We are passionate commentators. We are not, however, a nation of sportsmen and sportswomen.

And why should we be? For there has never been a concerted national effort towards it. Despite the Tunku's firm belief that sports would be a driving force for national unity, we have always allowed it -- like literature, like music, like art -- to fall by the wayside, to be something merely incidental. It is a social activity. A hobby. It is exercise. Nothing more. Parents do not encourage their children to take up sport as a vocation. Neither does policy.

Why? Because it's hard. Because it's risky. There are no guaranteed returns when it comes to such endeavours. It isn't like becoming a doctor, or an engineer, or a lawyer. Where even mediocrity allows you a chance to get by. To make a vocation out of sport requires a lifetime commitment. It requires you to constantly strive to be the best and to be the first.

So we put our money where it is safe. We invest in the sure thing. We tell our children that while sport is an important activity, it isn't the most important activity. We tell them to get involved but not too involved. Because at the end of the day, it is merely another distraction from their books.

And we wonder what happened to our national football. And we wonder why we never seem to get too many golds.

Nicol David made history twice last week. The first time by being the first active player in the history of the game to be inducted into the World Squash Federation Hall of Fame. The second time, just 24 hours later, by winning a record sixth Women's World Open crown and becoming not just the best but the best ever.

The general perception, however, was that she did so in spite of our national shortcomings. That her remarkable talent was honed with the encouragement and support of those closest and dearest to her rather than a nation looking to develop and bolster the talents of its citizens.

"In spite of." They are three words that we have been hearing a lot lately. About all those Malaysians, both here and abroad, who have made something of themselves. That their successes are somehow "in spite of", that they have, for whatever reason, transcended our education system, our national policies, our societal idiosyncrasies.

"In spite of." They are three words that really do rankle. And rightly so. For while we can claim greatness on the part of our citizens, we can in no way claim credit for them. We have, as a society, as a nation, been unapologetically stifling towards our talent. Inadvertently shooing them away to greener pastures.

A sports culture is not something that happens overnight. It needs to be developed over time. And it needs to be rooted in participation and not just in observation. We need to be active not passive.

We have, over the last five decades as a nation, failed to realise that all enduring traditions -- be it in sport, or in literature, or in art -- begins with a set of social practices that celebrate those particular norms and values. That it is about building capacity. That it is about creating a sense of continuity.

The simple fact is that we need to do more to support the Nicol Davids of Malaysia and all those who want to be like her. Financially. Emotionally. Spiritually. Why? Because these are our national heroes. They are the symbols of everything that is great about our country. They are our ambassadors to the world.

For the moment, however, these individuals, who so proudly don the Jalur Gemilang, will have to continue carrying Malaysia on their shoulders. It is a heavy burden and one that really should be the other way around.


Read more: A nation of sports couch potatoes - Columnist - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnist/a-...3#ixzz1dmDs3BTt

Fakta negara kita merupakan negara yang ngetop dari segi obesiti dapat menjelaskan bagaimana tahap budaya sukan di kalangan org ramai.

should've let dunhill to rules the league.