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digilife
post Oct 12 2005, 11:47 PM, updated 19y ago

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Ok guys lets giv me some feedback on setting up this thread for the good of fellow forumers here. biggrin.gif
I do this for the good of all. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
THANKS. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by digilife: Oct 12 2005, 11:56 PM
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post Oct 12 2005, 11:58 PM

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erm.. i think rating is good idea.. but sometimes.. buyers can't just depend on the rating to determine a good seller.. what i recommend is.. maybe.. the moderators can recommend any good sellers around.. or maybe like.. seller of the month.. the week or something..that will be recognise n respected by ppl.. it'll also encourage ppl to do more genuine sales
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:02 AM

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Noted and taken into consideration.
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:16 AM

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use a point system?

for example,
if a seller follows through with a deal, he gets a point.
seller ffk, minus a lot of points.
if he was early, an extra point.
if he was late, minus a point.
product exactly as said, plus a point.
product defers from what was advertised minus a point.
good after sales service, plus a lot of points.
any problem caused by the seller in anyway, minus points too.
late delivery minus points

that way, the seller would have to be polite. not like some of the sellers here, selling items as though the buyers are the beggars.

for buyers should have a similar point system too.

if such a system could be implemented, i am sure half of the sellers here would have to change their attitudes. and the other half have better sales.

special commentes should also be in the first post for particularly rude sellers. it's time that malaysia get used to the idea that the customer is always right

special comments too really helpful sellers too. to name a few, i wld say hungary, blinky, auctionfan and enna. i dont buy anything from them, but from what i see, they seem to handle inquiries pretty well. the same cant be said about other sellers. (hey if i didn't mention you doesn't mean you're rude though-siapa termakan cili dia terasa pedas tongue.gif)

just my thoughts anyway biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:19 AM

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marquis: NICE!!!!
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:20 AM

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I thought we already have a Successful Trade list for that purpose?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=19575

This post has been edited by ceo684: Oct 13 2005, 12:20 AM
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:22 AM

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im wondering, which mod asked u to do this?

- oops just saw it, it's sonyclie biggrin.gif

dont think this is gonna be of much use though

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post Oct 13 2005, 12:30 AM

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actually, i dont see much reason to have this rating, besides those successfull trade list show us a bigger slice of what has been traded.

Because in forums, you cant have systematically RATING members profile. UNlike auction site which are meant to have rating for each members.

So its best to find a proper solution to deal with this rating.

Btw why create it on this section? Put it on Garage Sale for bigger views....
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Agree Agree Agree ~!!!

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post Oct 13 2005, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(lordsapt @ Oct 13 2005, 12:19 AM)
marquis: NICE!!!!
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 13 2005, 12:20 AM)
I thought we already have a Successful Trade list for that purpose?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=19575
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Oct 13 2005, 12:30 AM)
actually, i dont see much reason to have this rating, besides those successfull trade list show us a bigger slice of what has been traded.

Because in forums, you cant have systematically RATING members profile. UNlike auction site which are meant to have rating for each members.

So its best to find a proper solution to deal with this rating.

Btw why create it on this section? Put it on Garage Sale for bigger views....
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true the tradelist shows a trade history...but i was thinking more along the lines of good buyers. good in the sense that they are polite, provide good service, blah blah, the works basically.

coz sure, some dude can have a lot of trades, sell to this dude, that dude, blah blah...but this requires time for them to establish themselves. especially to newbies. when they dont already have a tradelist...they cant really do much to boost their sales right? apart from doing cod..

so what can actually help this newbies is the positive feedback from the customers. apart from giving them recognition, they can slowly build their status as a good and reliable seller.

besides, not all those sellers that have a wide buy/sell list are all tha reliable. they tend to ffk at times too. or be rude. thats the worst part of some of the traders. they know they got an extensive buy/sell list, they tend to get cocky. think they can throw their weight around. to me the number one rule of being a seller is to be courteous.

so although the tradelist is good for showing the bigger picture, i still think something on the small scale (potentially big scale) like this rating wld help sellers. special emphasis on the new sellers who have yet to establish a really big customer base.

the only thing that i feel needs to be done wld be the standardization of the rating system. that i leave in the hands of our helpful volunteer, digilife thumbup.gif jolly good of him to volunteer smile.gif

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post Oct 13 2005, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 13 2005, 12:20 AM)
I thought we already have a Successful Trade list for that purpose?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=19575
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that one difficult to trace who is good seller or not coz we have to scroll down and read all the post there & we only know who is good seller, conman, ffk buyer/seller, waste time only sweat.gif

i suggest, better do like lelong
juz 2 my cents oni wohh flex.gif

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like lelong?
so u want our ratings attached to our info below our avatar?
doubt thats ever gonna happen

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post Oct 13 2005, 11:43 AM

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Hi all,
Nice feedback. thumbup.gif
Keep them coming for another day. thumbup.gif
I am compiling your precious feedback for mod to decide. sweat.gif
Thanks. notworthy.gif
I also need some negative feedbacks to decide the pros and cons of setting up this RATING thread.
Thanks again. notworthy.gif
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post Oct 13 2005, 11:54 AM

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digilife do check at my post also, is there ok?
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post Oct 13 2005, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Oct 13 2005, 11:54 AM)
digilife do check at my post also, is there ok?
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Noted.
I will also compile all feed back from your thread.

To all others keep your suggestion coming.

To Mod, could you pls temporary pin this up cause i may not be able to go online so often to bump this thread.

THANKS ALL notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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there's some flaws in Marquis point system.

late also get deduct.......aiyoh. tongue.gif buyer late then the seller gets point as well? smile.gif IMO this +/- point thing is pointless. there's no black/white proof blablablabla.

furthermore, it hardly seems fair. you do 10x more deals than me, so you get 1000 points when i get only 100 points when both are equally good dealers?

get it? smile.gif

IMO what would be good is as long as the TRADE is satisfactory +1 point. if the trade not satisfactory. +0 points.

ratings will be based on total points / total trades - then you get % ratings. smile.gif but to implement it like such, LYN would need engines like those at Lelong.
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post Oct 13 2005, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 13 2005, 03:10 PM)
there's some flaws in Marquis point system.

late also get deduct.......aiyoh. tongue.gif buyer late then the seller gets point as well? smile.gif IMO this +/- point thing is pointless. there's no black/white proof blablablabla.

furthermore, it hardly seems fair. you do 10x more deals than me, so you get 1000 points when i get only 100 points when both are equally good dealers?

get it? smile.gif

IMO what would be good is as long as the TRADE is satisfactory +1 point. if the trade not satisfactory. +0 points.

ratings will be based on total points / total trades - then you get % ratings. smile.gif but to implement it like such, LYN would need engines like those at Lelong.
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aiyak! got flaw in my system! tongue.gif it's true though. i didn't really think about the part where if the person has done more sales then he or she would get more ratings...but then again, that is good right? tongue.gif

but the total points/total grades seems like a much better system thumbup.gif hmm..i'm just thinking aloud here..is it possible to just do the rating manually? i mean the seller do it him/herself. it wld be much simpler. no? but then again, need someone to cross reference properly in the event that there are those dishonest assholes.

i must insist on one thing though. if the seller was particularly polite/good/friendly, a special mention should be made somewhere. like a hall of fame and a hall of shame or something. coz i just can't get it out of my head that the sellers should be more courteous biggrin.gif
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wanna involve ESCROW or not? tongue.gif

bahh. all these things ah, too much hassle la.

LYN was not made to be a trading site. it's a tech site. buyers / sellers just have to be more cautious when buying stuff. smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 13 2005, 09:01 PM)
wanna involve ESCROW or not? tongue.gif

bahh. all these things ah, too much hassle la.

LYN was not made to be a trading site. it's a tech site. buyers / sellers just have to be more cautious when buying stuff. smile.gif
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thats y we just asking mods opinion about this
coz saw at LYN, so many CONMAN around and victim become increase day by day.
we creare this topic, just to prevent conman victim.
for LYN regular user can definately know who is blacklist or not, coz he/she always monitor the latest info mah, the prob is for newbie that dosnt know who is blacklist or not thumbup.gif
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post Oct 14 2005, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Oct 14 2005, 09:08 AM)
thats y we just asking mods opinion about this
coz saw at LYN, so many CONMAN around and victim become increase day by day.
we creare this topic, just to prevent conman victim.
for LYN regular user can definately know who is blacklist or not, coz he/she always monitor the latest info mah, the prob is for newbie that dosnt know who is blacklist or not  thumbup.gif
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Should be emulated by all. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Would be cheaters beware!!!!!!!!!!! doh.gif doh.gif

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