Its true that's its a looping pattern and its easy to just copy-pasta the selected track. piece of cake to do via ableton. But if its repetitive, then there's meager room for improvisations right? Well, this guy nailed it btw:

Anyway, there has been some problems recording using acoustic drums so yeah, we need someone else who can. I spoke with WinterSun and he's Ok with that.

Genre? We have not discussed on that yet. All of us plays different genres (Alternative, Rock, Jrock, Acoustic, Metal, etc) so we might not stick to just one. The aim currently is to finish this song cover and we will see what goes further down the road. Suggestions are welcome anytime.

I think everyone have their own recording gears i.e. audio interface + DAW.

Sorry I must have missed reading your post

So far I only have the bass and backing vocal tracks. Here is the track that I completed to edit (I included the orig song as backing track so you can use this)
http://www.mediafire.com/?332274ylw153yb1

This track contains the following:
1.Backing track - Orig song
2.Bass track - by rarap
3.Verse/Chorus/Bridge backing vocals - by nablitz



This weekend I will include my guitar track and hopefully Deadfrog can give me his part too.



This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Dec 7 2011, 12:11 AM

Noted. You can use this WIP track:

http://www.mediafire.com/?332274ylw153yb1

little ice,Dec 7 2011, 01:13 AM
checked the WIP track, yes, 148.79 sync, but not 100% of the whole song. i don't know what happened to the WIP track, something wasn't right to begin with.

i'd like to check a few things:

1. killer, when you edit the recorded track, did you cut the original track to accommodate? because the WIP track sounds like it's edited, pretty unnatural especially the pre-chorus to chorus. DAW nowadays are very advanced, you may had activated the time stretch by accident when you edit it, which you shouldn't. just want to double check.

Actually I didn't touch anything on the original track. Not sure if I accidentally activated the time stretch (warping), will check later. What do you mean by unnatural, you mean the bpm changes on the pre and chorus? or you mean the bass and vocals? I've put on some effects on the backing vocals just for experimenting, if it's ugly, I will remove the effects. Anyway, the difference on the bpm should be no issue as DAWs can modify all tracks to follow 1 common pacing (bpm)

2. anyone who started to record the first track, did you provide the mp3 that you referenced? it's dangerous that everyone has a reference track that's slightly different from each other.

As long as the reference song is within 148bpm (the .xx doesn't matter) can be used.
Please take note we used this approach (to have the orig track as reference) because we didn't have the reference track (drum or bass).

Later on, we will utilize online collaboration websites, i.e. IndabaMusic and Kompoz so that our recording will be organized and have a common dashboard to work on. If everyone agrees, we can start using this.
For info, you may check on this:
Kompoz Online Collaboration Tutorial Video

as mentioned in my previous post, i extracted the audio file from the official MV and it sync perfectly with 148.15bpm, from beginning until the very end. you have to adjust the track so that it sync right from the very first note until the last one. easiest way to sync the tempo is to make sure you find the very first drum hit, in this case, the first chorus. percussive tracks like drums are easy to sync because you can see the hits on the waveform view. then adjust the tempo until everything sync.

i can probably record over the current WIP track but i can guarantee you that it'll never sound in sync, or tight.

Noted on this, thanks for your inputs

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Dec 7 2011, 10:32 AM

Oh yes, thanks for highlighting that. It's not that rarap played that totally out of synch but It was my mistake when I tried to shift the bass lines to synch with the original song, need tedious work on that (by moving/inserting space/lengthen the notes). Let me re-adjust the bass track.

That's because I applied Vocal Stereo Repeater on the pre-chorus for the backing vocals, it has decay time at 23%. Hmm Il'l remove it

Thanks for your info, I didn't know that even minute tempo difference would cause so much trouble. How about we wait for the drum track from CDGmaboroshi and then we use that as the baseline?

We can use Messenger yes but the problem is availability. Maybe we can have setup a short discussion whomever is available. Weekend afternoon is fine with me.

Band name? We have not think of that yet

Deadline is last week of December to produce the final track. When can you provide your part?
You may record the audio and video at the same time, my only worry is synching later on.
I'm not that good using Sony Vegas.

That's what I'm doing too and it's wrong (from little ice post)

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Added on December 7, 2011, 4:19 pmNice,,Where's the 'like' button?

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Dec 7 2011, 04:19 PM

I think Little Ice meant to synch all our tracks together. There might be some latencies when we collate all instruments onto a single track (even if we record at the same exact tempo). When we have the final track we can proceed with synching it to the video track that you guys prepared (up to you whether you recorded the audio first then video later, or do it altogether). Both will be edited anyway for the final AMV.

There seems to be alot of confusion on which track that will be used as baseline. Since Little Ice, Deadfrog and Me agreed on 148bpm, we will use the midi version as our reference track.

The midi can be downloaded here: http://www.mediafire.com/?u37p2v7t3ma1035

or If you are having trouble using the midi file, I have converted the same file into a wav file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?lrxvxj70vv7l486

Please re-record your respective tracks ASAP (preferably over the long weekend). And send me the final track (only your track minus the midi, plus the video track if you have done it) latest by Wednesday, Dec. 14. Hoping for your utmost cooperation. Thanks guys.

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Dec 12 2011, 05:59 PM

Haha I know you OMG haha

Btw, next Friday is a different one. It's a live acoustic performance at PJY/CBJ Jazz Festival at Old Town. But I'm playing the cajon and vocals only

Well I don't mind if this is what you wanted to appear in the amv but the video is kinda low quality, taken using a handphone?

Can you share me the audio track too? Thanks.

Here's a quick hack, no need to import the midi file to wav nor assign a VST to individual midi track:

When you import midi file to Ableton, you must assign a MIDI output port. Using output to the Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth SHOULD make sound.
Here are are screenshots on how you output the sound from the midi track that you imported:


Import the midi track by drag and drop (arrangement view)



At Options -> Preferences -> Midi synch tab:



Select output type in the midi track:



Do the same for the rest of the midi track



To start recording, you should create an AUDIO TRACK, arm the record button and play.
When you want to export the file (your track alone, without the midi), you can just discard the whole midi track (we wont need it anyway).
Hope this helps.

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Edit: For some very stupid reasons, I can't freeze the track and export the thing (no sound whatsoever)
So I just convert the midi file into a wav file using a midi to wav converter.
This is the converted file:

http://www.mediafire.com/?lrxvxj70vv7l486


This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Dec 12 2011, 05:55 PM

Hush people, no need to argue here.
I'll do my best to make the final video as nice as possible. I myself do not own a nice video recorder but I will borrow a decent point and shoot camera with video function from my friends.
No issue for me if Deadfrog can't provide a better video, I'll just crop the sides, put some effects maybe. Let's see when I have all the individual completed work in my hands.

Thanks.




LOL of course it will. There's also another solution, where you select all the midi track, play it and freeze the track and copy the freezed track to audio track (so this method is converting midi track to audio track)

Depends on the outcome of this project. We will cross the bridge when we get there. And guys, we need a frikin BAND NAMEE!!

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Dec 12 2011, 04:30 PM

OK, I need everyone's instant messaging IDs (whether it's MSN live or YM) so we can discuss about this quickly.

So far I have received Bass Track (rarap) and Guitar tracks (me and Deadfrog). How about the others?


As for the Band Name, I need your suggestions too.

Here's my crappy suggestions:

1) 148 Afterthought - because of the confusion made over what will be the baseline bpm for the song. Actually I have some very funny names too to share with haha, here it goes: 148 Bpm Pickle Of The Universe Tuesday, 148 Bpm Against Stare, 148 Bpm Into Blender. LOL

2) Six Instincts (we are 6 people!)
3) Autumn of the Misguided
4) Improvise Trail Of The Junkyard Focus (LOL)
5) Hardly Fiction
6) Potato Major 7th ('Potato' quoted from CDGmaboroshi)

LOL save it in a youtube-friendly size lah brother.


You can save it in Windows Media Video V11 (*.wmv) , 3 MBPS video.

Audio: 96 Kbps, 44,100 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, WMA
Video: 30 fps, 640x480 Progressive, WMV, 3.1 Mbps
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000


You can use this setting if you have sony vegas or adobe

Finally got the Violin, Guitar and Bass Tracks. I admit I got a little excited so I proceeded to resynch the 3 tracks with the baseline track and look at what we have now:

http://soundcloud.com/marksherman/secrets-raw_draft

Little Ice/Rarap, very solid playing
Deadfrog, nice job at 2:00-11, 2:50-3:52

Note: Have not fully cleaned up all the noises and such, and synch is still a bit off by 3%, but hey at least the sound is good





I'll put my part on weekend, Hopefully Kaoru, Nablitz and CDGmaboroshi can send their parts ASAP

Reminders: I need your videos too. So far I already have Deadfrog and Rarap videos.

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Dec 14 2011, 11:15 PM

Actually I put the violin track right at the very beginning (same as the base track) but somehow they do not synch at all =/ (note I disabled all warping from all the tracks, and input 148 as the general tempo). No worries, as I will remove the base track (the original) after I have all the tracks edited.

Just send me the original video, if you don't want to show your face its OK, I can crop something or put some blur effect LOL. Why would you wanna hide it anyway?
You should have put on a cap or something (like towel -- in case of CDG maboroshi haha).
Well, IMO you should be proud of yourself lah

Sked /k/ people will hunt you down? haha.

Me lurkz in /k/ too btw ;D

You're in

Ugh guys, I'll be busy for the coming holidays so Kaoru/Nablitz, please send your promised tracks before christmas, boleh?

Thanks and happy holidays for everyone, hope to complete this before new year

We don't have a keyboardist ;D

Merry Christmas To All!!

OK so I've put the tracks together, it should be synched better than before. Note, it still does not have the vocal parts from Kaoru and my guitar (been occupied with so many things).
Hope I can finish before New Year LOL.

So here ya g0, the draft version of Secwets:

http://soundcloud.com/marksherman/secwets-draft-by-smashing




Happy Holidays!