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Video/Audio Cover Song Collaboration, Polling for new cover

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post Feb 26 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(kaoru himura @ Feb 20 2012, 09:29 AM)
Hi there,

I'm sorry to inform you that I failed to re record my part, as well as the video. I'm been spending my 4 days off looking for a new job...

I'm sure the you guys can't wait for any more delays, there fore I suggest to keep the one I recorded previously as the finalised one from me. You can also remove me from the team as I have been the main source of delay for this project. I heard that that there are ppl who volunteered as a singer, you can consider them to replace me.

I'm sorry to disappoint you. As much as I want to do this, I am not able to focus on my singing hobby until my job problem is solved.

Again, I deeply apologise for the inconvenience caused.
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I totally understand your situation, therefore there is no need to apologize. I have removed the female vocals for this song just to get it done. We all have to move on anyway.
In any case, I wish you luck in job hunting.

Updates:
Final audio track: http://soundcloud.com/marksherman/secrets-by-op-wip
Now working on the video track. Thanks!

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QUOTE(genyou90 @ Feb 22 2012, 02:08 PM)
i wish i can join.... take a look of my cover....

http://soundcloud.com/auyong/talking-to-the-moon
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This is a nice cover. Your voice is suited for rock hmm
Do you have any song to suggest?

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Feb 26 2012, 08:01 PM
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post Feb 27 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(genyou90 @ Feb 27 2012, 09:34 AM)
I have no idea, i follow majority, wish to have song that everyone agree.
Btw i hv downloaded ur instruments version of secret and trying to record myself, hope you dont mind.
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Sure you can use it to record yourself, just don't forget to ask permission later if you wanna publish it.
Thanks.



BTW, guys I've decided for the next song to cover. I want this song to be a rock version, with male vocals (that said, must be a powerful male vocal). This have only 4 chords throughout the whole song, we can transposed it from G to E to suit the male vocals (or D, whatever). I'm thinking this time, violin will do the solo. So anyone up for the challenge?
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post Mar 1 2012, 02:14 PM

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Guys, start throwing your ideas on this. First of all, I notice pop songs are mostly in Cmajor, just like in the songs used in tv/soap operas. For rock, we have in D or E. So it depends on the vocal range, we can use key of C, D or E. Maybe genyou90 can try this song and see?


Also, we need to do the drum part first so that the bass parts can fit in perfectly. BTw, I saw there are some rock covers already done for this song.
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post Mar 2 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(rathead @ Mar 1 2012, 03:56 PM)
I'll start with the drum part first and I'll post it here by this friday or latest end of this week.
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A big thanks!!! rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Belleza @ Mar 1 2012, 05:20 PM)
I want to join too hahaha
my soundcloud account
http://soundcloud.com/skysecret91
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Not bad but you need to record cleanly, get rid of all that hiss.

QUOTE(genyou90 @ Mar 1 2012, 05:26 PM)
have any sample of the rock cover ? just show some here as ref...
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Here ya go:


QUOTE(Burningscarlet @ Mar 1 2012, 06:47 PM)
You guys definitely need a good audio engineer. As far as I can see, there is absolutely no problem with the audio tracks, it's just that you probably need to EQ the mix a little, probably make the tracks a little more uniform by using capable sound equipment at least, and try to bring out the tracks which sound muddy and under powered here.

But anyways, I'm part of a cover band too, and I was thinking of starting my own little cover project since we're waiting for music college to start and stuff. You interested? We already have quite a few capable people in our circle of band mates already and we're not averse to bringing our equipment to any willing collaborators house to record them personally.
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Yes I do agree we need an audio engineer. I'm still new to this mixing and everything, hope you can give me some tips smile.gif . Would love to collaborate with you personally but I'm just a bedroom musician sweat.gif
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post Mar 5 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(rathead @ Mar 5 2012, 12:11 AM)
Hey guys,
Here is the drum cover for the song in MP3 format.
It's abit fancy though and few noises., tell me what you guys think.
http://www.mediafire.com/?3gjx2fsrhce5m8f

I'm using adobe audition and didnt realise that it can't save as DAW format.
im going to re-record it using Ableton 8 when i finish download it.
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This drum track is good, how did you record it? Were you using multiple mic or just one?
Yes, better to record it as separate track and f you can do some tweaking on the EQ too, please do so so we can refine the muddy areas. Once done, send us the drum track only. Please specify what BPM were you using too (was it around 80bpm?

QUOTE(rarap @ Mar 5 2012, 05:52 AM)
have decided on the song keys?i can start experiment a bit on the ori key first.will change once the final key is decided.anyway,m i still in for this 2nd project?just finished my final exam.haha.and what bpm is it again? tongue.gif

ps:rathead,later plz share with me drum only track.can just pm me for that.thanx  smile.gif thats a nice drumming uve done by the way
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Everyone please experiment on your parts using the original key first (at E major), later the vocalist can choose what key he's comfortable to sing with.

And oh, I will finish our first cover this weekend.
Thanks.
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post Mar 5 2012, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(rathead @ Mar 5 2012, 01:19 PM)
I record this using an electronic XM-drum with the sound output to audition program and added some EQ effects.

There is hiss even before I start to record. will try to tweak some of the EQ to remove that.

I'm not sure of the BPM. have u find out?
will send you guys the drum track once i've record it using ableton.
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Question, do individual drum have their own output or is it just one? I reckon it's just one mono output.
To remove the hiss, I think there's a noise gate somewhere in your DAW. (i.e. Acoustica Mixcraft 5 got, can set noise suppression from 0 to 100% automatically).

If you import the song to Ableton, it automatically shows the native BPM, we can use that.
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post Mar 6 2012, 04:34 PM

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Guys, I wanna suggest this arrangement for the song.

BPM: 83


The song will start with a bang, not like the original song which starts which 2 bar measures of acoustic guitar. I suggest we do extra 4 bars of instrumental (all instruments) on top of the original song.

1. Intro(all) -4 bars
2. Verse 1 - acoustic
3. And I remember...[drum beats enter here]
4. Chorus...[all]
5. Verse 2..[all]
6. For the second 'All those crazy things'..[note to drummer, make the bass drum in quarter notes, the snare rolls in 16th notes in ascending volume]
7. Chorus
8. Bridge 1 - This is a violin solo
9. Bridge 2 - This is guitar riff
10. Chorus x 2.
11. End

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post Mar 8 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(rathead @ Mar 8 2012, 12:22 AM)
I do agree most of it,

For item:
1: doable, example intro something like paramore's - For A Pessmist I'm Pretty Optimistic.
2 - 5: agreed.
6: doable, i'll see what i can do to blend in.
7. is it all?
8 - 9: agreed. drum beat remain.
10: Chorus 1: All
10: Chorus 2: Maybe some guitar riff according to the drums beat
11: ok

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1. Yes, something like that. Just improvise accordingly, you may do different drum beat style (against drum beats in the verses) on this part. However, since we started with this style, the last chorus (#11) should have the same pattern as this.

For the last 2 chorus, this is the most important part, the climax. Am sure Deadfrog will enjoy soloing on this part, and I will only back him up (read as: Im not as good as him tongue.gif ).

I will try to contact Little Ice for his solo.


As for the key of the song, I'll leave it to you genyou90 since you will sing this part right? Just try to practice in the key that you're comfortable with and then let us know.
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(nabzblitz @ Mar 11 2012, 02:26 AM)
Ok wait sorry i've been MIA for a while. are we on a new project? do you guys still want me in? hahaha
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Hey nabz, I wasn't able to contact you lately. Yes you are still part of the group. If its alright with you, let's give the vocal part to genyou90 for this cover as he was keen on joining. We can do a separate cover (I'm thinking Foster the People) but that would be later. Thanks.

QUOTE(rathead @ Mar 12 2012, 01:58 AM)
hey guys,

here is the original + 1st draft-drum track
http://www.mediafire.com/?xr043ede4mh1nu0
open the Ableton live set file.

not really perfect, few mistakes because was in a hurry to record.
still haven't record the 4 measures intro. left a blank there.
Please experiment it with your own ideas to fill in some grooves.

and here is the MP3 drum-only track with added EQ from Adobe Audition.
http://www.mediafire.com/?dcyg1omwmlnbfan
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Btw, this is a rock cover, I'm quite OK with these drum riffs but I think we need a more aggressive drum playing like this:


And oh, Little Ice can't make it this round so yeah we have to revise the arrangement. Open for discussion.

P.S. I was out of town last weekend, just got back from holidays.
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post Mar 13 2012, 10:45 AM

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Cool Stuff! So what do you suggest we do? Key changing is cool, especially at the last 2 chorus. We can do double time on the choruses too. We can change the riffs styles (both drums and guitars) on some parts of the song too.
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post Mar 19 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(deadfrog @ Mar 19 2012, 12:22 AM)
what happened to the previous track, Secrets?
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Sorry for the late post, my frikin' pc cannot handle too much video processing. The video rendering alone took more than 25mins WTF?! wahaha

Anyway, here's the video, recorded with a potato:



OK, next cover laugh.gif
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post Mar 21 2012, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Burningscarlet @ Mar 20 2012, 10:17 PM)
Hey, Killerkamote7, do you mind if I also start a thread similar to this one? I think this idea is pretty cool and has a lot of room for expansion.
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Sure go ahead, there are other SIMILAR threads like this. Perhaps those that we are unable to accommodate should join with another collab with Deadfrog, but he needs a few ones only:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2212555&hl=
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post Mar 26 2012, 10:54 PM

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I've replaced the strings of my acoustic guitar to Martin's custom light, the frikin high E string broke when I was tuning it ;(

Have to run to Woh Fatt this weekend haiyoo. Tomorrow I'll replace my electric guitar strings to Slinkies.

Anyway, the 4 bars intro should be loud. The acoustic guitar together with the vocals will come on the 3rd beat of the 4th bar (it's an upbeat). Will try to improvise more on the intro this weekend.

Rathead, thanks for the explanation on the synching. I've heard the drum cover, I'm glad it was better than before.

Any comment from the vocalist? where is he btw? lol
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post Apr 3 2012, 05:43 PM

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Sure no problem. I think we can handle it for the meantime.

Updates:

Finally changed strings of my 2 guitars. Downloaded the drum track and was able to synch to the original one. If we are using Key of D, then I will retune my acoustic to Open D5 (D A D A D D).

Still figuring out the solo parts and the intro that will suit with the drums ;/


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Project on-hold due to some other priorities.

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: May 13 2012, 11:29 PM
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