I have been discussing with Wintersun and he's coming up with the sample drum tracks. I need to check whether his recording can be done cleanly or not.

For the others, we already have the guitar parts and all. I'll discuss with nablitz and you for your parts, I have already msg him to record the vocal track sample of his so I can evaluate where the duet would be.

Hope by next weekend we have all the samples, and proceed to re-record the final individual tracks.

Anyway, I've received Deadfrogs guitar riffs and your vocal sample.
Thank you guys!

I don't mind either. I respect everyone's creativity =)

Thanks master kirov!


@WinterSun,

Hey come send me the file faster lah! LOL

Oh that, you have to export the track (at File menu), Ableton will collate all the tracks into one. You have to tweak the settings though according to your requirement. Basically AVI format will give you the highest quality (high bitrate) but the file size is huuuugggeee. I usually save the track in WMV (ver. 11) format, cause this has good enough quality to upload in youtube or fb.

On part of this audio mastering, I also tweak the volume/peaks of the audio, including whether i want it on L or R channel alone (particularly those song parts that has 2 guitars, I will set each guitar playing on L or R). Hope this helps.



I already got the sample track from Wintersun today, but not very sure If I'd be able to fully clean it up, will let you know guys this weekend. Worse thing that can happen, we resort to a drum track instead =(

Deadfrog, maybe you can help me on this too, I'll share with you the sample track he gave me on your soundcloud account

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Nov 16 2011, 11:35 AM

Yes you can send the vocals to me already, but send me the backing track that you used also so that we can baseline the songs' bpm.

I just returned from outstation and will continue to work on this for the weekend..


Update 20 November 2011

Testing the sample work given by DeadFrog and Kaoru and remixed the 3 tracks including mine.
This is just a preview/sample of what it looks like:



Secrets - Draft Version

My suggestions:

For Deadfrog,
1. maybe I'll take care of guitar part on 1:00 to 1:13, I'll use the coil tap on this one (you may provide the same licks as your 0:35-0:48) and Middle solo part, you may take care of the rest.
2. You take the Ending Solo also (I'll provide backing guitar and muted rhythm at left channel)


For Kaoru,
1. You can take the chorus part and duet vocals on the last 2 repeated chorus.


For Wintersun,
I'm working on your drum sample, will let you know today the outcome..

For Nabzblitz,
Please send me your vocal track sample.

For Rarap and Little Ice,
Kindly do the same.


I'm hoping for everyone's cooperation to provide their sample work latest by 27th November (just parts only, no need to complete the whole song, as I will try to check which part we can improve, and so that all can share their opinions and suggestions too.

Thanks all!

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Nov 20 2011, 01:29 PM

Noted guys, should be no problem. Just share it in my soundcloud account when it's available already.

Anyway, here's the sample drum + guitar track (WinterSun + Deadfrog). Let me know if this is OK or not, I need your suggestions/opinions:
Drum Track Sample for SECRETS


For WinterSun,
Can the kick drum be tuned a littler lower? I can't hear it clearly on every 4 measures, and it lacks 'bass'. Not sure if you can enhance it a bit during your recording. We will need a better drum sound than this, would you be able to do it?

The 8th note drum pattern that you made is OK, this should be the correct pattern to play it. I have cutoff both the lower and higher frequencies a bit because there's too much reverb and high-pitched echoes, including scratches.

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Nov 20 2011, 01:40 PM

It will sound great if we can record nicely. Maybe you can try give me another drum sample better than this and i'll see what else I can do. The drum track is the last option, honestly, I don't wanna use a drum backing track because it defeats the purpose of going a full band collaboration cover.

Oh that, I adjusted both of your tempo. Your's was around 100bpm while his is around 120bpm i think lol. Actually, all have different bpm (including Kauoru). Which makes me think it would be better if we use only one base track (yup, that's the drum part to be used as bpm baseline)

So yeah, give me another one to work on before we can conclude anything, and do share it with Deadfrog as well. thanks.

Eh? I thought the original is 148? Ableton shows it at 148.79bpm to be exact.
info: http://www.karaoke-version.com/custombacki...ic/secrets.html

Well, I don't mind changing the tempo as long as it's uniform. If we resort to a backing track, not sure if there's one available. The only one I found is here: Secrets - Backing Track


A little off-tempo should be OK, I can always adjust it during final editing. Anyway bro, I thank you for trying. Let me ask the others if they are cool with that for the time being.

Off topic: Damn your siggy distracts me every single time LOL me likez Kim too haha

Hey man, I'd say its a great recording! Nice last note harmonic on the ending btw.

We could use your track as the baseline instead of the drums, I can actually fill in my part while waiting for the others. Do send me your final work whenever it's ready. Hopefully we can finish this cover by 3rd week December. Thanks.

No need bro, let me worry about mastering and final cut. Please share to Deadfrog's soundcloud account too. Did you use a backing track too? can you send me that as well. Thanks

That was perfect! Thanks!

^You post at the wrong thread sir. Don't hijack the thread.


This girl have it. You sir, have none.



This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Nov 26 2011, 09:32 AM

Apology accepted. OK you can have the tits

If you send me the whole folder, it might not be able to sent via email. You have a soundcloud account? Because the 4 of us have one, its easier to share tracks using that. =)

Me: http://soundcloud.com/marksherman

Deadfrogs' : http://soundcloud.com/matikatak

rarap: http://soundcloud.com/ohhu_rarap003

WinterSun: http://soundcloud.com/c0kacola

It has more features than mediafire, just think of it as youtube minus the videos, and then everything else have the same features (i.e. sharing, your own channel, comments, followers, etc).

Anyway, I will work on the tracks that I received from our guys this weekend.

Progress Updates:

03-Dec:
Received final bass track, verse vocals and backing vocals. Trying to resynch them together using the original track as baseline (at 148.79bpm). Screenshots!



Oops, what to do with the spaces? If I don't add those, the whole song will be out of synch haha



ok, I give up on the resynching the verse vocals, and jumped to resynching the backing vocals at chorus and applied compression and LCF at those:


Just experimenting on this verse 2nd voice part (make it sub-mixed/stereo), looks OK but if i changed my mind I'll remove the effects:




This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Dec 3 2011, 02:11 PM

I managed to synch your two vocal tracks, the backing vocals for verse and chorus. for the verses, i have difficulty =( if you can re-record that then will be better, you want me to send you the orig backing track?

Hey Bro,
Received and checked the file "Secrets Cover Verse & Bridge Vocals (Re-Done)", good job! they are in synch. Now can you send me the whole individual tracks (1 for Verse, 1 for Bridge) without the the backing track.


Hi Bro,
Yes sir you are welcome to join, however, we have just started and our first Collab is 'Secrets' by One Republic, is it OK?
Would you be able to do a drum cover of this song? P.S. awesome covers, Touhou is nays Thanks.

Eh? I didn't said send me another one. LOL
I mean send me the individual audio tracks before you export them (1 for verse, 1 for bridge). Don't tell me that you recorded it all in one track including the backing track? If so, how would I be able to filter out your vocals from that? LOL