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 Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??

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edisoner90
post Apr 16 2019, 02:17 PM

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if want better return learn to invest in share market.. better potential and easier to sell and buy..
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post Apr 16 2019, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Apr 16 2019, 02:17 PM)
if want better return learn to invest in share market.. better potential and easier to sell and buy..
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right tool for the right problem ma.
most of us in PRS for the tax relief, which is a 100% sure-thing VS share market.

... and i'm sure some of the PRS fellows are into stocks local/foreign, bonds, properties, etc too biggrin.gif
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post Apr 16 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 16 2019, 02:46 PM)
right tool for the right problem ma.
most of us in PRS for the tax relief, which is a 100% sure-thing VS share market.

... and i'm sure some of the PRS fellows are into stocks local/foreign, bonds, properties, etc too  biggrin.gif
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It's called don't put all eggs into a single basket. bruce.gif
wongmunkeong
post Apr 16 2019, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 16 2019, 02:48 PM)
It's called don't put all eggs into a single basket.  bruce.gif
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... and make sure your baskets are not in the same site/building too tongue.gif
risk management / business continuity planning 101 laugh.gif
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post Apr 16 2019, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Deathscythe@@ @ Apr 15 2019, 10:20 PM)
Have you received it? I have not received it yet. sad.gif
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not yet receive here either. got in around Dec 2018, under AIA PRS.

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post Apr 17 2019, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Apr 16 2019, 06:50 PM)
not yet receive here either. got in around Dec 2018, under AIA PRS.
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Mine is PM PRE. Also not yet received. Also enrolled in Dec 18
edisoner90
post Apr 18 2019, 10:05 AM

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i put in PRS under kenanga in Dec 2018.. not yet received the 1000 incentive too.. hope jun 2019 will received?

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post Apr 18 2019, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 16 2019, 02:46 PM)
right tool for the right problem ma.
most of us in PRS for the tax relief, which is a 100% sure-thing VS share market.

... and i'm sure some of the PRS fellows are into stocks local/foreign, bonds, properties, etc too  biggrin.gif
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yup i put in also for tax relief. hahaha. if government really want to keep this up better make it a longer term in the income tax rather than just mess around giving few year relief only.
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 16 2019, 10:01 AM)
yup, looks like a loophole. i'm aiming to do like that too when 55 and if the SOP is still the same tongue.gif
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a. place $3K into PRS fixed income type thus low/no fluctuations Nov
b. take back out coming Feb
repeat (a.) & (b.)
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hi, PRS cannot withdraw until retirement age right? Unless you are willing to pay the penalty 8%?
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post Apr 21 2019, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(AgentVIDIC @ Apr 20 2019, 11:04 PM)
hi, PRS cannot withdraw until retirement age right? Unless you are willing to pay the penalty 8%?
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penalty of 8% is only when withdraw before retirement age and only from sub account B only

both account and no penalty if at retirement age..

https://www.ppa.my/prs-and-you/prs-faq/#19b570d916ac5f650
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post Apr 21 2019, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 21 2019, 12:56 AM)
penalty of 8% is only when withdraw before retirement age and only from sub account B only

both account and no penalty if at retirement age..

https://www.ppa.my/prs-and-you/prs-faq/#19b570d916ac5f650
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oh i see, thanks thanks.

Is it worth to put in money to this PRS for the tax relief? If I am still far away from reaching the retirement age... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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post Apr 21 2019, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(AgentVIDIC @ Apr 21 2019, 01:06 AM)
oh i see, thanks thanks.

Is it worth to put in money to this PRS for the tax relief? If I am still far away from reaching the retirement age...  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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what is your tax bracket? how much taxes can you reduce paying if you buy RM3k?
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post Apr 30 2019, 10:36 AM

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i wanna ask for PRS.. the account B withdrawal tax penalty is 8% of the withdrawal amount?

because if let say i invest 3k for tax relief. my tax rebate is around 700+ at maximum bracket. so i already earn 700 back, then my 3k at 30% is around 900+, so i retrieve 900 from my account b kena 8% penalty which RM72, which is still untung.

Is my calculation correct?

This post has been edited by ben3003: Apr 30 2019, 10:38 AM
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post Apr 30 2019, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 30 2019, 10:36 AM)
i wanna ask for PRS.. the account B withdrawal tax penalty is 8% of the withdrawal amount?

because if let say i invest 3k for tax relief. my tax rebate is around 700+ at maximum bracket. so i already earn 700 back, then my 3k at 30% is around 900+, so i retrieve 900 from my account b kena 8% penalty which RM72, which is still untung.

Is my calculation correct?
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Penalties Pre-Retirement Withdrawals

Is the 8% tax applied to the full withdrawal amount or the net amount minus fees/ charges?
The tax penalty of 8% imposed on pre-retirement withdrawals would be applied on the full withdrawal amount.
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post Apr 30 2019, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 30 2019, 10:40 AM)
Penalties Pre-Retirement Withdrawals

Is the 8% tax applied to the full withdrawal amount or the net amount minus fees/ charges?
The tax penalty of 8% imposed on pre-retirement withdrawals would be applied on the full withdrawal amount.
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meaning based in the total amount u have inside ur account? Cannot understand
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post Apr 30 2019, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 30 2019, 03:06 PM)
meaning based in the total amount u have inside ur account? Cannot understand
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I have no idea.
It was quoted from PPA website.
Email/Call PPA CS for clarification.
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post Apr 30 2019, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 30 2019, 03:06 PM)
meaning based in the total amount u have inside ur account? Cannot understand
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if you request to withdraw 5k, means charge 8% on the 5k la.
i think
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post Apr 30 2019, 04:37 PM

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still not yeet received the RM1000 incentive.. perhaps no more ady.. Enrolled Dec 2018.....
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post Apr 30 2019, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 30 2019, 03:15 PM)
if you request to withdraw 5k, means charge 8% on the 5k la.
i think
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if that is the case, still ok la.. 8% is much less than the tax rebate i received.
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post May 2 2019, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Deathscythe@@ @ Apr 30 2019, 05:37 PM)
still not yeet received the RM1000 incentive.. perhaps no more ady.. Enrolled Dec 2018.....
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The rm 1k incentive from who?

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