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post Sep 4 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 3 2013, 07:54 AM)
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/home/index.svdo
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Hwang PRS and some others (hehe - i guess U know which i did lar)

Hope the above helps  notworthy.gif
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thanks mate, been reading up fundsupermart...definitely something i should look into thumbup.gif
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post Sep 4 2013, 10:42 AM

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can we have a table comparing all prs performance to date please?
bare in mind, an annualised figure would be more representative since some of them started early, and some late.
who's the best performer so far? i heard it's hwang by miles. anybody can verify?
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post Sep 4 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 4 2013, 10:42 AM)
can we have a table comparing all prs performance to date please?
bare in mind, an annualised figure would be more representative since some of them started early, and some late.
who's the best performer so far? i heard it's hwang by miles. anybody can verify?
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I attach fund NAV from PPA websites.
Since the fund juz start ages less than 2 year, you can used current NAV to recalculated the performance since launch.
I didnt hv their annualy performance result.


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post Sep 4 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 4 2013, 11:30 AM)
I attach fund NAV from PPA websites.
Since the fund juz start ages less than 2 year, you can used current NAV to recalculated the performance since launch.
I didnt hv their annualy performance result.
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wah seems like rhb not bad wor.
hwang also steady.
pb like turtle.
cimb and am jialat.

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post Sep 4 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 4 2013, 11:30 AM)
I attach fund NAV from PPA websites.
Since the fund juz start ages less than 2 year, you can used current NAV to recalculated the performance since launch.
I didnt hv their annualy performance result.
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rclxms.gif good attachment.....just don't forget the funds that did give distribution/dividends...their NAV may drops.
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post Sep 4 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 4 2013, 12:47 PM)
rclxms.gif good attachment.....just don't forget the funds that did give distribution/dividends...their NAV may drops.
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Ya, Hwang PRS gave distribution 1 month back
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post Sep 10 2013, 02:45 PM

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Is the *rough* calculation in the excel file correct?
with the following assumption:
- no growth
- using Hwang Growth fund as base

p/s: dun shoot me if it's totally wrong. i am still considering this PRS, just thinking what does the tax relief really mean to me cry.gif




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post Sep 10 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 10 2013, 11:30 PM)
Sorry, for this one year you are stuck with Pub-Mut. You can only transfer your PRS after one year.

Any fresh injection, go for hwangPRS.

Dump Pub-Mut-PRS.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 30 2013, 07:53 AM)
Hwang-PRS growth and moderate for its zero sales charge. it is also coincidently offering the  highest return. To me, this above average return is a bonus to me as I am in for the tax relieve and zero sales charge.

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Any good agents from Hwang to recommend? Or can I log in & buy online via PPA website?
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post Sep 10 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Sep 10 2013, 04:02 PM)
Any good agents from Hwang to recommend?  Or can I log in & buy online via PPA website?
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fundsupermart.com
according to some forummers
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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Sep 10 2013, 04:02 PM)
Any good agents from Hwang to recommend?  Or can I log in & buy online via PPA website?
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You can go through financial planning firm like Standard Financial Firm Sdn Bhd, VKA Wealth Planners Sdn Bhd or Great Vision Planner Sdn Bhd, etc or if you like to DIY, then Fundsupermart would be an alternative.

Hwang is not like Public Mutual... their agency force is very small. They mainly go through their appointed distributors like those I mentioned above.

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BTW, a little Johnny come lately has entered into the fray. Kenanga aka "I bought ING fund management, yeah yeah" has used a short cut to enter into this potential lucrative market.

I hope they too offer zero percent sales charge and 1% Anuual Management fee. I hope they will use passive investment strategy by using the Fund of Funds method to keep cost low.

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post Sep 12 2013, 02:41 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQcqSeBC3k

Astro Awani interview CEO of Manulife Asset Management (one of the licensed operator of PRS).


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post Sep 12 2013, 03:52 PM

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dear all, can we buy company A PRS Growth Fund RM1k , PRS Moderate Fund RM1K, Conservative Fund RM1k?
or
Company A PRS Growth Fund RM1k
Company B PRS Growth Fund RM1k
Company C PRS Growth Fund RM1k?
then next year, buy
Company D PRS Growth Fund RM1k
Company E PRS Growth Fund RM1k
Company F PRS Growth Fund RM1k?

my objective is just to get the tax relief up to RM3,000 each year but hope to have the protection of the capital

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post Sep 12 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 12 2013, 10:08 AM)
You can go through financial planning firm like Standard Financial Firm Sdn Bhd, VKA Wealth Planners Sdn Bhd or Great Vision Planner Sdn Bhd, etc or if you like to DIY, then Fundsupermart would be an alternative.

Hwang is not like Public Mutual... their agency force is very small. They mainly go through their appointed distributors like those I mentioned above.

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Oh i see, thanks.

It it compulsory to go thru agents for any of those PRS providers? Can I do it online & buy it myself via my PPA account?
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post Sep 12 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Sep 12 2013, 03:56 PM)
Oh i see, thanks.

It it compulsory to go thru agents for any of those PRS providers?  Can I do it online & buy it myself via my PPA account?
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Currently you cant. Alot form need to fill up that not availble online. Require few parties to do so.

Furthermore PPA administration done by India Deuthce Bank.

All the form fillup data entry at there include IC verification and scanning to PPA system.
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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Sep 12 2013, 03:56 PM)
Oh i see, thanks.

It it compulsory to go thru agents for any of those PRS providers?  Can I do it online & buy it myself via my PPA account?
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PPA online is a read only platform at this moment in time. You still need to go to individual operators to do the buy in.

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post Sep 12 2013, 11:25 PM

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hwang have full time staff you guys can go directly to them for PRS
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post Sep 13 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Sep 10 2013, 03:45 PM)
Is the *rough* calculation in the excel file correct?
with the following assumption:
- no growth
- using Hwang Growth fund as base

p/s: dun shoot me if it's totally wrong. i am still considering this PRS, just thinking what does the tax relief really mean to me  cry.gif
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I am agree with your calculation 100%. Can any one can share your view here?
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post Sep 19 2013, 08:50 AM

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Huang Investment recently bought over by Affin???? Any chance those fund managers will jump ship? Hwang still bankable?
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post Sep 25 2013, 03:09 PM

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Hi,
May I know what is advisable way to buy a fund for eg hwang aiiman growth fund if let say i have 3K to invest. My main aim is to reduce income tax.

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