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kochin
post Dec 28 2012, 12:42 PM

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anybody got any idea when PM's fund would start?
notice their fund price currently is at 0.2502.
kochin
post Apr 12 2013, 01:49 PM

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PRS from public ain't really performing well.
dissapointed.
klci hitting new high and yet from launch till now, price has not even increased by 1%!!!
their growth fund is a joke. especially so since index breaking new high. the conservative fund is the best performer of all their fund.
compared to hwang, the returns are fabulous.
kochin
post Jun 4 2013, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Jun 4 2013, 02:19 PM)
I don't invest in Public PRS so I don't know if it's performing or not. But I just want to highlight one thing that a lot of people mistake is they just look at the NAV price they buy and the current NAV price. This is not correct. We need to look at the total value of the fund (ie. total units multiple NAV). This is because some funds distribute units as dividend. And after the distribution we will have more units, but the NAV will drop. But overall, if you take total units multiple by NAV, you'll reach the same value before and after distribution.

So, even though the current NAV is the same as the NAV you buy, but if you have more units then the total value of your fund has gained. Your investment has gained.
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boss, i'm comparing apple to apple (absolute investment in versus present total absolute amount).
in a nutshell, PRS is not performing compared to other funds.
kochin
post Jun 7 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Jun 7 2013, 11:42 AM)
I forgot to add that even though the value of your investment might not have increased however, don't forget about your tax relief. If your tax bracket is 19%, then for every new dollar you put into the PRS, you already get 19% return. Thinking this way, your PRS already gave you back some return.
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that was the only bright side of it.
if compared to other funds, eg. Hwang, it's performing so much better.
sigh.
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post Jun 7 2013, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 7 2013, 04:37 PM)
I have access to all the PRS performance. Your statement above which I bolded lead me to believe that you may have invested in a slow lumbering giant known as Public Mutual PRS where you need to pay a high entry fee for sub-par return.

Hence your opinion is skewed; some of us are very happy with PRS generally b'coz we contributed into a zero sales charge provider and getting top mark return.

In a nutshell, the performance of PRS fund are in this descending order:

Hwang>CIMB>RHB>Manulife>>>>>>>>>Public Mutual.

AMBank cannot be counted because they just launched their PRS in Apr-13.

Xuzen
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yes. you are absolutely correct.
i did meant to say PM PRS is not performing as well as other provider of PRS fund.

any idea why boss? hmm.gif
kochin
post Jun 10 2013, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 7 2013, 09:40 PM)
One word Mr Kochin: "LOSERS" with a Capital L. Pub-Mut fund manager suxs BIG TIME.

Xuzen
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ROTFL....
which provider shall i switch to boss?
Any recommendation?
The only saving grace is my tax deduction savings.
Else. vmad.gif mad.gif vmad.gif mad.gif
kochin
post Sep 4 2013, 10:42 AM

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can we have a table comparing all prs performance to date please?
bare in mind, an annualised figure would be more representative since some of them started early, and some late.
who's the best performer so far? i heard it's hwang by miles. anybody can verify?
kochin
post Sep 4 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 4 2013, 11:30 AM)
I attach fund NAV from PPA websites.
Since the fund juz start ages less than 2 year, you can used current NAV to recalculated the performance since launch.
I didnt hv their annualy performance result.
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wah seems like rhb not bad wor.
hwang also steady.
pb like turtle.
cimb and am jialat.

kochin
post Dec 4 2013, 08:49 AM

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just got my statement from public prs growth fund.
damn pathetic!
dec 2012, index was 1607.61.
yesterday index was 1824.29

their fund return?!
3.22%

and guess what, it's not net.
another 1.5% or so goes to management fees.

actual return is about 1.7%!!!! for whole freaking year.

shame on you public. you dare to take 1.5% management fee when the fund you manage perform so badly.

just entered hwang about 1 or 2 months.
return already exceeded public full year!

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post Dec 4 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 4 2013, 10:54 AM)
LOL!. You forget to factor in the 3% sales charge leh! If you count that in, your ROI is negative Lulz! Congratulations, Public Mutual PRS has just succeeded in making you less wealthy.

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kochin
post Nov 11 2015, 04:26 PM

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http://www.affinhwangam.com/campaign/prs-c...nc#.VkL7JrcrJaQ

boo hoo hoo.
kena con liao.
at first say contest ends 30 sept.
rushed to deposit even though market was crashing like mad then.
mana tahu, come 1st oct, say extended pulak.
damn beh song liao.

so in theory did not maximise or timed the market better since end sept myr dropped like crazy. surely yield for my entry no good liao for this year.

to make matter worst, didn't win the contest.
cham jor. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

 

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