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mobiusone
post Sep 14 2006, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 14 2006, 06:55 PM)
Coz the songs are catchy? tongue.gif
I don't like Believe... I only like Realize... Reason was good, but not as nice as Realize.

Oh ya, Gundam X's opening was quite decent too, but still it lacks the oomph and feel of GW's opening.
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the anime itself is better than that cock fest that is called Wing.
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post Sep 15 2006, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Sep 14 2006, 10:04 PM)
the anime itself is better than that cock fest that is called Wing.
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??

U mean Gundam X > GW?

Personally I prefer GW than GX... GX's pacing is horrible and it makes me feel like I'm watching a power ranger cartoon, since each ep has a single baddie which gets kicked in the same ep (except for those annoying twins). And the main baddie Federation only gets established in the final few eps... meaning it kinda wasted the previous 30+ eps...

But still, there are some good points too. It seems that Gundam X was the one that got kicked the most among all UC main mechas (although it also had plot armor).
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 15 2006, 10:17 AM)
??

U mean Gundam X > GW?

Personally I prefer GW than GX... GX's pacing is horrible and it makes me feel like I'm watching a power ranger cartoon, since each ep has a single baddie which gets kicked in the same ep (except for those annoying twins). And the main baddie Federation only gets established in the final few eps... meaning it kinda wasted the previous 30+ eps...

But still, there are some good points too. It seems that Gundam X was the one that got kicked the most among all UC main mechas (although it also had plot armor).
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in term of mech design, i think X/XX is better than Wing.

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 15 2006, 10:17 AM)
??

U mean Gundam X > GW?

Personally I prefer GW than GX... GX's pacing is horrible and it makes me feel like I'm watching a power ranger cartoon, since each ep has a single baddie which gets kicked in the same ep (except for those annoying twins). And the main baddie Federation only gets established in the final few eps... meaning it kinda wasted the previous 30+ eps...

But still, there are some good points too. It seems that Gundam X was the one that got kicked the most among all UC main mechas (although it also had plot armor).
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yes,the pacing is a bit slow.But the show gets better and better in the later episodes,especially when the new federation is established and when garrod goes to space.Its sad they wasted so many episodes in the front,but the show got cancelled halfway.


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The plot armor isnt as ridiculous as GW.No gundams emerged scratchless or shiny after some epic battle.The enemy mechas isnt pilotted by a retarded negative IQ dumbass pilots,which doesnt know how to dodge or aim a crap at all.The enemy mechas actually takes some beating,compared to those in GW where one shot one asploxion.God lord,the Leos looks llike they are rigged with explosive,if the paintjob is slightly scratched off,it will ASPLODE!

and relena...SHOW'S OVER!

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I love the Haro chopped in half part laugh.gif
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post Sep 15 2006, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Sep 15 2006, 11:51 AM)
in term of mech design, i think X/XX is better than Wing.
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well... they were similar in a way...
GX + Satellite cannon
GW + Buster Rifle

WZ + Twin buster rifle
DX + Twin Satellite cannon

HeavyArms + Gatling
Leopard + Gatling with wheelies laugh.gif

Virsago = (Epyon - Transformation - Giant Beam Sword) + Bigass chest cannon

I prefer GW's mecha coz they are more interesting... You could say stereotype too tongue.gif... Shenlong = China = Dragonhead + Glaive... Sandrock = Arab = Scimitars
But preferences for designs are indeed personal and subjective.

QUOTE(mobiusone @ Sep 15 2006, 12:18 PM)
yes,the pacing is a bit slow.But the show gets better and better in the later episodes,especially when the new federation is established and when garrod goes to space.Its sad they wasted so many episodes in the front,but the show got cancelled halfway.

The plot armor isnt as ridiculous as GW.No gundams emerged scratchless or shiny after some epic battle.The enemy mechas isnt pilotted by a retarded negative IQ dumbass pilots,which doesnt know how to dodge or aim a crap at all.The enemy mechas actually takes some beating,compared to those in GW where one shot one asploxion.God lord,the Leos looks llike they are rigged with explosive,if the paintjob is slightly scratched off,it will ASPLODE!
That's why I said it wasted the previous 30+ episodes. tongue.gif

But I agree on the part where the enemies are much more smarter. AU's grunts are often cannon fodder, but those monoeyes in GX actually kicked GX quite a number of times. GW's grunts do have their glorious moments, like how they thrashed Deathscythe and Shenlong in space.

Speaking of Grunts... I still think television headed Leos, television+helmet Aries, and television+ icecream cone Taurus are very well designed. They are not sleek, but boxy and heavy looking, much more like military machines than the fanciful gundams. The choppers in Victory are nice too... ugly but adorable.

And plot armor does exist in both GW and GX... Heero should have been chopped to pieces by Zechs in Antartica when he furiously slashed Heavyarms' torso with beam sabres. Trowa was still in one piece when half of Bayette's cockpit was blasted to smithereens. GX was chopped in the same manner like Heero, and shot in the chest numerous times by the twins. And we'll never forget CE's plot-cheatcodes biggrin.gif

Conclusion?
Plot Armor > Conventional armor, Beams, bullets, explosions thumbup.gif

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post Sep 15 2006, 08:17 PM

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soli for asking about GSD story...
i still wondering how the Durandal got the GFAS-X1 Destroy design before Destroy appear in ep around 25-30 ......

how he can get the design??unsure.gif
it make me confuse at this place...
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This are plot holes that Fukuda throw around and forgets about it.

It apparently Durandal manage to got some insider info from EFF. Similar how does Rau La Cruze got info about cyclops.
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a little off topic...I created a Gundam Seed theme for Sony Ericsson. For all gundam fans...hope you guys like it tongue.gif
http://www.myk750.lasyk.net/preview/71491/...undam-Seed.html
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post Sep 17 2006, 12:16 AM

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Hmm.. looks good.
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post Sep 18 2006, 03:57 PM

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hay guyz,the last episode of apocalypse 0079 is out,but its chinese subbed.
Its the greatest piece of MS porn i've ever seen,too bad the chinese subbed version's quality is kinda poor.Damn those english fan-subs for taking so long.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


//please use a spoiler tag next time
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post Sep 18 2006, 07:11 PM

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^ what is apocalypse?? Is it the same as igloo? Uh uh.. dont really know much about 3d gundams unsure.gif

Just watched Char's Counterattack this afternoon... SUPERB... The battles were absoultely stunning, making CE's look elementary school. And the animation was greatly improved from Zeta's retro look.

Loved the pacing of the story, even at times it seem a bit slow. The characters were rather well elaborated and developed, although I don't know what the fuss is about the cyan haired lass, Quess. OK, she's a newtype, and a very good one, but having two hotblooded teenage boys going gaga all over her along with babysitter Char is a bit farfetched. Especially when the hotblooded teens are ready to kick their own comrads' butt for the girl.

DUH. It's a bloody war out there and you're fighting over a girl? Grow up.

The duel btw Sazabi and Nu was one of the better duels I've seen lately, it's up there along with Providence + Freedom, TallGeese + Heavyarms, Druggies + Freedom/Justice. But having two heavy machines boxing each other like kids was indeed more exciting than shooting at each other (and missing as in other series).

CCA... Top notch... only to be spoiled by the abrupt ending. Why do Gundams anime always get messed by loose endings?

One question though: Who is Lalah Sune and why the heck does her appearance mess up Amuro and Char?? Didn't watch MSG, hence the question.

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 18 2006, 07:11 PM)
^ what is apocalypse?? Is it the same as igloo? Uh uh.. dont really know much about 3d gundams unsure.gif

Just watched Char's Counterattack this afternoon... SUPERB... The battles were absoultely stunning, making CE's look elementary school. And the animation was greatly improved from Zeta's retro look.

Loved the pacing of the story, even at times it seem a bit slow. The characters were rather well elaborated and developed, although I don't know what the fuss is about the cyan haired lass, Quess. OK, she's a newtype, and a very good one, but having two hotblooded teenage boys going gaga all over her along with babysitter Char is a bit farfetched. Especially when the hotblooded teens are ready to kick their own comrads' butt for the girl.

DUH. It's a bloody war out there and you're fighting over a girl? Grow up.

The duel btw Sazabi and Nu was one of the better duels I've seen lately, it's up there along with Providence + Freedom, TallGeese + Heavyarms, Druggies + Freedom/Justice. But having two heavy machines boxing each other like kids was indeed more exciting than shooting at each other (and missing as in other series).

CCA... Top notch... only to be spoiled by the abrupt ending. Why do Gundams anime always get messed by loose endings?

One question though: Who is Lalah Sune and why the heck does her appearance mess up Amuro and Char?? Didn't watch MSG, hence the question.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalah_Sune

long story short, she's Char's protege n in love with amuro. Amuro killed her(she jumped into the middle of the fight to save char) instead when he wanna kill char
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post Sep 18 2006, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 18 2006, 07:11 PM)
^ what is apocalypse?? Is it the same as igloo? Uh uh.. dont really know much about 3d gundams unsure.gif

Just watched Char's Counterattack this afternoon... SUPERB... The battles were absoultely stunning, making CE's look elementary school. And the animation was greatly improved from Zeta's retro look.

Loved the pacing of the story, even at times it seem a bit slow. The characters were rather well elaborated and developed, although I don't know what the fuss is about the cyan haired lass, Quess. OK, she's a newtype, and a very good one, but having two hotblooded teenage boys going gaga all over her along with babysitter Char is a bit farfetched. Especially when the hotblooded teens are ready to kick their own comrads' butt for the girl.

DUH. It's a bloody war out there and you're fighting over a girl? Grow up.

The duel btw Sazabi and Nu was one of the better duels I've seen lately, it's up there along with Providence + Freedom, TallGeese + Heavyarms, Druggies + Freedom/Justice. But having two heavy machines boxing each other like kids was indeed more exciting than shooting at each other (and missing as in other series).

CCA... Top notch... only to be spoiled by the abrupt ending. Why do Gundams anime always get messed by loose endings?

One question though: Who is Lalah Sune and why the heck does her appearance mess up Amuro and Char?? Didn't watch MSG, hence the question.
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the apocalypse series is some sort of sequel to IGLOO.
IGLOO was originally created as a short film to show in the bandai museum.But the fans wanted more,so sunrise decided to create another 3 more episodes.The Igloo series ended where the zeon forces has lost their odessa stronghold,and retreated to space.Apocalypse continued from there,to the battle of a baoa qu.

yeah..its one of the fully 3D rendered gundam series,and its UC,what are you complaining? lol

whats wrong with CCA's ending? I think its fine.
Is it the amuro pushing Axis part sounds a bit ridiculous to you?
oh yeah..psychoframe is just another plot device.

If you havent watch the original gundam series.Go download the Trilogy movies,it summarized the whole original storyline pretty well,unlike the new zeta gundam movie.


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Ah yes Igloo.. You can consider the very last UC gem, I remember a inteview from bandai CEO.

As IGloo is to please the old fans and Seed is for the new people.
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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Sep 18 2006, 07:49 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalah_Sune

long story short, she's Char's protege n in love with amuro. Amuro killed her(she jumped into the middle of the fight to save char) instead when he wanna kill char
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thanks a lot... no wonder both Amuro and Char went bonkers whenever she was mentioned.

QUOTE(mobiusone @ Sep 18 2006, 10:37 PM)
yeah..its one of the fully 3D rendered gundam series,and its UC,what are you complaining? lol

whats wrong with CCA's ending? I think its fine.
Is it the amuro pushing Axis part sounds a bit ridiculous to you?
oh yeah..psychoframe is just another plot device.
no i'm not complaining about igloo tongue.gif i think it's fine... i watched the 1st and 2nd ep and i felt that the battles were quite nicely done... z'gok riding on a plane haha...

CCA's ending was too abrupt... it's like they were talking halfway with all the green auroras around.. and suddenly put came the credits, very abrupt. But I enjoyed the whole movie, kept me in full attention throughout the show.

Amuro pushing Axis is super plot powah!!

Newtypes can do anything in UC... push a gigantic asteroid like Amuro did, or suck all fragments of the Angel Halo back into space when the crash was imminent in Victory... biggrin.gif Hail Plot Powah!!
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hey..amuro did say"The Nu Gundam isn't just for show!!"

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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Sep 19 2006, 03:16 PM)
hey..amuro did say"The Nu Gundam isn't just for show!!"
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http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Suit-Gundam-E...n/dp/1880656868

Anyone know whether the Gundam novel is available here?
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nope u need to amazon it
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Sep 20 2006, 03:05 PM)
nope u need to amazon it
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How abt Gundam Sentinels?

http://www.gearsonline.net/gundam/sentinel.php

I downloaded the whole 14 chapters of the novel, translated to chinese...still no time to read though...

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