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vearn27
post Feb 13 2008, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Feb 13 2008, 10:42 AM)
do you boot from IDE drive? i heard that ACHI booting required 'new' installation?
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I boot in SATA Mode IDE, switching to SATA Mode ACHI now requires a new installation of OS and also loading up SATA driver before the installation of the OS. If there isn't much different in term of performance and features, might as well I just save my hassle from getting it running in ACHI mode smile.gif.

But, ACHI support NCQ? huh.gif
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AHCI is the mode that supports NCQ
try force installing the chipset drivers while still in IDE mode
not sure success rate, but worth the try
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post Feb 13 2008, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 13 2008, 12:42 PM)
AHCI is the mode that supports NCQ
try force installing the chipset drivers while still in IDE mode
not sure success rate, but worth the try
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OMG! Just noticed all the while I have typed the wrong way for AHCI which I keep on typing ACHI shakehead.gif sweat.gif doh.gif

That is something isn't wise to do since most of the cases will fail except I follows the following:
http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php...Storage+Manager

Maybe I'll give that a try before doing a full reinstallation of the Windows since my Windows just crashed yesterday sweat.gif.
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post Feb 13 2008, 03:51 PM

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My sister just called and she said my Windows or HDD crashed again with BSOD... Disk Read Error doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif ... bad luck for me getting that faulty HDD? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Feb 13 2008, 05:30 PM

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what hdd? use SeaTools for Seagate, other brand got its tools to download too

yeah, AHCI, that's a typo from me too, awww blush.gif

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post Feb 13 2008, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Feb 13 2008, 05:30 PM)
what hdd? use SeaTools for Seagate, other brand got its tools to download too

yeah, AHCI, that's a typo from me too, awww  blush.gif
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It would be most probably the Seagate 500GB HDD since I only use my Samsung 120GB for FULL STORING and BACKUP purpose.

I used SeaTools for Windows to test my Seagate 500GB HDD this morning and it passed both the Short and Long Drive Self-Test (DST). Would that still be my HDD causing the problem? unsure.gif

Anyway, most probably I'll be preparing for a full format to switch to AHCI mode.
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post Feb 13 2008, 06:46 PM

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Btw if you are using Vista you need not reinstall your Vista. (sorry didn't have the time to read back if you were using XP or Vista).

Vista works fine with AHCI, and you will not run into problems with a new install. However, if you change this setting underneath an installed Vista, it will likely blue-screen on you. The trick is to edit the registry setting here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci

Edit the Start key and change its value to 0. Then shut down, change the BIOS to AHCI, and reboot. All going well, Vista will detect the change, install new drivers, ask you to reboot once more, and it's done.

Please also see my other post regarding AHCI vs IDE before deciding to make the jump just to enable NCQ.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=15630042

You may find that you may not actually need to bother.
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post Feb 13 2008, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Feb 13 2008, 06:46 PM)
Btw if you are using Vista you need not reinstall your Vista. (sorry didn't have the time to read back if you were using XP or Vista).

Vista works fine with AHCI, and you will not run into problems with a new install. However, if you change this setting underneath an installed Vista, it will likely blue-screen on you. The trick is to edit the registry setting here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci

Edit the Start key and change its value to 0. Then shut down, change the BIOS to AHCI, and reboot. All going well, Vista will detect the change, install new drivers, ask you to reboot once more, and it's done.

Please also see my other post regarding AHCI vs IDE before deciding to make the jump just to enable NCQ.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=15630042

You may find that you may not actually need to bother.
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Yeah, I did read your post in that thread which started by me regarding AHCI vs IDE. Finally, someone with real experience stood up and help me out with it smile.gif.

Actually personally, I might not bother switching into AHCI mode till my system crashed twice (yesterday and just now). The first time it happened, I was rebooting my system and then suddenly the system indicating a missing system file at location "C://Windows/Config/" or similar... I couldn't remember as I didn't jot it down. Then I forced RESET and the 4th or 5th time I managed to load Windows. I run a ScanDisk check on D: and it took too long till I do another RESET *I just couldn't cancel it sad.gif*. The system then went to the same state and I did a Windows Recovery Installation using WinXP BootDisk. The system then runs normal.

I left my rig run over night as I'm downloading a huge file which about 3GB++. I was at work and suddenly my sister SMSed me telling me that the system suddenly BSOD and restarted. She told me that she read something about "Disk Read Error". Well, I switched ON my rig now and it runs normally. I haven't do any diagnostic yet, but yesterday my 500GB Seagate HDD passed SeaTools's (Seagate HDD's Diagnostic Tool) Short and Long Drive Self-Test.

Initially I plan to reformat everything and switching into AHCI mode. But since now that you mentioned no performance gain and in fact lower its performance, I hold it up at the moment and will do some HDD scanning. Perhaps any good applications to be recommended from you? unsure.gif

P/S: I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 smile.gif
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post Feb 13 2008, 10:37 PM

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Dudes, wanna ask is there any difference between a 2.5" and 3.5" external disk in terms of performance? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(zeist @ Feb 13 2008, 10:37 PM)
Dudes, wanna ask is there any difference between a 2.5" and 3.5" external disk in terms of performance?  unsure.gif
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2.5' will be a bit slow usually if compare with 3.5' 7200rpm.
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post Feb 15 2008, 02:38 AM

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My new Seagate 500GB 7200.11 32MB entering 2nd week of usage...

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How reliable is this program actually? sweat.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 11:53 AM

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nice software there..
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vearn27, only 50% health?
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post Feb 21 2008, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 21 2008, 09:39 PM)
vearn27, only 50% health?
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Tu lah... that software crappy and unreliable... least that's what I felt... but... anyway... changing my Seagate 500GB 1 on 1 soon doh.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 21 2008, 11:03 PM)
Tu lah... that software crappy and unreliable... least that's what I felt... but... anyway... changing my Seagate 500GB 1 on 1 soon doh.gif
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with wat excuse to the dealer shop then? shocking.gif
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 22 2008, 10:39 PM)
with wat excuse to the dealer shop then?  shocking.gif
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I already told them my problem. I failed to format and install Windows into the Seagate 500GB thrice already sad.gif

Swap with my Samsung 120GB HDD, voila ~ sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 22 2008, 10:48 PM)
I already told them my problem. I failed to format and install Windows into the Seagate 500GB thrice already sad.gif

Swap with my Samsung 120GB HDD, voila ~ sweat.gif
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u change already?
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post Feb 24 2008, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 24 2008, 01:15 PM)
u change already?
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Yeah, made the change yesterday and will install it on Tuesday since I'm not free these two days smile.gif
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Only four famous HDD meh? I tot got 5?
1) Seagate
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4) Hitachi
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post Feb 24 2008, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(QiQio @ Feb 24 2008, 07:20 PM)
Only four famous HDD meh? I tot got 5?
1) Seagate
2) WD
3) Maxtor
4) Hitachi
5) Samsung
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Maxtor has already bought by Seagate.

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