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super macgyver
post Feb 11 2008, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(mengfui @ Feb 9 2008, 09:05 PM)
Anybody know which shop in LYP carry Hitachi P7K500 series harddisk?
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u can try at startec.
mitodna
post Feb 12 2008, 02:55 PM

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where to get 7200.11 500GB ? thanks, SG selling SGD220?
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post Feb 12 2008, 03:11 PM

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me looking for the 7200.11 320gb...cant find in Mid Valley...only got .10 sad.gif

eh wait.... .11 got 320gb ah?? sweat.gif or is it 500gb only?
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post Feb 12 2008, 03:22 PM

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7200.11 minimum storage is 500GB so u couldnt get the 320GB.
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post Feb 12 2008, 03:25 PM

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crap....yeah i just saw the web site doh.gif

oh well...time to download the pricelist whistling.gif
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post Feb 12 2008, 03:27 PM

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but 7200.11 which comes with 32mb internal cache & that would certainly blow WD off the ground.
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post Feb 12 2008, 03:38 PM

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yeah i know...thats why im looking for the 7200.11

but i just want 320gb...500gb is kinda overkill for me in terms of size and price sweat.gif

think ill just settle for 320gb seagate or wd la haih.
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post Feb 12 2008, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 9 2008, 03:11 PM)
but i think only vista can go tat far ler, u try wit vista yet liao?
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Nope, haven't install Vista for myself before in my life so far unsure.gif.

QUOTE(mitodna @ Feb 9 2008, 04:26 PM)
yoyoyo, how much? and where? thanks  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

SATA is using Ultra DMA setting? or it is nothing related??? thanks
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 10 2008, 02:33 PM)
I think it doesn't matter if the D appear as optical drive in the Partition Manager of the Window XP bootable CD...lable your partition and you will know which one you want to install the Windows XP Pro SP2 liao....

if you are going to reinstall windows in C, then no problem at all, no need to change anything...just install it...

anyway, I also want to make it many partition when I get another 500GB hdd, but I afraid make it too many partition is not good for the hdd as I read somewhere last time that make more than 3 partition will make it easy corrupted... hmm.gif dunno for large capacity this theory still valid or not... unsure.gif
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Hahaha... actually it is no big deal with the drive partition letters. Just I'm preferring everything could be "in order" so it would just looks much neater tongue.gif. I didn't care much and just splitted my 500GB into 5 partitions. It would be a pain if you're gonna defrag a large partition leh laugh.gif.

QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 10 2008, 08:08 PM)
did you set your bios SATA to AHCI mode?
UDmamode-5 is only 100MB/s
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Need to switch to AHCI mode? huh.gif

QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 12 2008, 03:11 PM)
me looking for the 7200.11 320gb...cant find in Mid Valley...only got .10 sad.gif

eh wait.... .11 got 320gb ah?? sweat.gif or is it 500gb only?
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Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 is utilizing 250GB per platter drive. So you would only see 500GB, 750GB and 1TB at the moment smile.gif.

QUOTE(merzchan @ Feb 12 2008, 03:27 PM)
but 7200.11 which comes with 32mb internal cache & that would certainly blow WD off the ground.
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500GB 7200.11 available in 16MB internal cache as well. They mentioned the cache only would benefit if you're using it as system drive. If using it just for data storage, it doesn't matter I guess unsure.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 12 2008, 05:17 PM)
Nope, haven't install Vista for myself before in my life so far unsure.gif.
U just got my PM tongue.gif. Can get it at LYP biggrin.gif.
Hahaha... actually it is no big deal with the drive partition letters. Just I'm preferring everything could be "in order" so it would just looks much neater tongue.gif. I didn't care much and just splitted my 500GB into 5 partitions. It would be a pain if you're gonna defrag a large partition leh laugh.gif.
Need to switch to AHCI mode? huh.gif
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 is utilizing 250GB per platter drive. So you would only see 500GB, 750GB and 1TB at the moment smile.gif.
500GB 7200.11 available in 16MB internal cache as well. They mentioned the cache only would benefit if you're using it as system drive. If using it just for data storage, it doesn't matter I guess unsure.gif
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larger cache can reduce the seek times mar.
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post Feb 12 2008, 06:21 PM

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Anyway, do I need to ENABLE ACHI MODE for my SATA? unsure.gif

Currently it's running on IDE mode and there are IDE, RAID and ACHI to pick from.

Anyway, just faced a few BSOD while rebooting my Windows sweat.gif. No idea what happened but finally I managed to load Windows after the 5th attempt shakehead.gif.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 12 2008, 06:21 PM)
Anyway, do I need to ENABLE ACHI MODE for my SATA? unsure.gif

Currently it's running on IDE mode and there are IDE, RAID and ACHI to pick from.

Anyway, just faced a few BSOD while rebooting my Windows sweat.gif. No idea what happened but finally I managed to load Windows after the 5th attempt shakehead.gif.
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Try scan ur new hdd for bad sectors.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 12 2008, 08:54 PM)
Try scan ur new hdd for bad sectors.
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Use Windows's Utility ScanDisk? Or any good application to be recommended? unsure.gif
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post Feb 12 2008, 10:28 PM

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Windows just crashed just now and recovered using Windows Recovery sweat.gif.

Beside Windows's ScanDisk and also HDTune, is there any other application to check on the error of the harddisk? unsure.gif
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doh
AHCI = advance host controller interface
you can go up to udma-7

and check the SMART attribute on the drives via HDtune/speedfan for error log counters
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 12 2008, 10:28 PM)
Windows just crashed just now and recovered using Windows Recovery sweat.gif.

Beside Windows's ScanDisk and also HDTune, is there any other application to check on the error of the harddisk? unsure.gif
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you can try check at seagate website see whether they provide a software to do so...you can also try Spinrite which is recommeded by someone in tomshardware forum...but that software is not free... sweat.gif

laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Edited to add: I just found the diagnostic tool from seagate website...http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools/

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post Feb 13 2008, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 12 2008, 10:57 PM)
doh
AHCI = advance host controller interface
you can go up to udma-7

and check the SMART attribute on the drives via HDtune/speedfan for error log counters
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Then, should I go for AHCI? That would require me to reinstall Windows. That's ok for me since I just did a Windows Recovery as my Windows crashed of all sudden sweat.gif. Still diagnosing the HDD... hopefully that is not the culprit *pray*.

If I wanted to use AHCI mode, I will need to install the SATA driver before proceeding with Windows installation. My floppy disk drive kaputed, any cure or other solution? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 12 2008, 11:03 PM)
you can try check at seagate website see whether they provide a software to do so...you can also try Spinrite which is recommeded by someone in tomshardware forum...but that software is not free... sweat.gif

laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Edited to add: I just found the diagnostic tool from seagate website...http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools/
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Yeah, I found that SeaTools as well and just installed the "SeaTools for Windows" version. Will be trying to scan the HDD now unsure.gif.
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not sure if your lanparty in on ich8 or 9, but if youre lucky, XP SP2 still bootable/recognize ich8 without driver installation (if i remember correctly)
try boot up in AHCI

oh shi!! its vista sweat.gif

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post Feb 13 2008, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 13 2008, 07:11 AM)
not sure if your lanparty in on ich8 or 9, but if youre lucky, XP SP2 still bootable/recognize ich8 without driver installation (if i remember correctly)
try boot up in AHCI

oh shi!! its vista sweat.gif
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Mine is ICH9R. Anyway, I don't think I can avoid that SATA driver installation if I ever wanted to change SATA mode to ACHI. Anyway, really benefiting if I switched from SATA mode IDE to ACHI? unsure.gif

I read from the net that it could use the Native Command Queuing (NQC), true ah? huh.gif As I heard only expensive RAID card capable of utilizing NCQ sweat.gif.
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post Feb 13 2008, 10:42 AM

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do you boot from IDE drive? i heard that ACHI booting required 'new' installation?

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