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 Buying Satria Neo R3, Working after 3 years wanna a car badly.

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post Oct 6 2011, 04:48 PM

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neo cps manual then save money to BOT...then enough lor, better than neo r3

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post Oct 6 2011, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 6 2011, 08:29 AM)
With 3k, max u can afford is a Viva inclusive of fuel, maintenance, insurance and road tax. 4k or more then u can opt for Satria Neo R3 so work harder.
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Wah, 3K viva, 4k R3. So big difference is car prices! cry.gif Hope I get an allowance soon, working on it. brows.gif
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post Oct 6 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Mochamalaysian @ Oct 6 2011, 04:32 PM)
As of satisfying the 3 conditions, not sure though. But not planning to buy the car cash, max can pay d/p is RM12k. Yeah, I am traveling quite far and my work hours always vary (not shift work), its normal office hours but the time I come back is always past midnight due to overlapping time zones with different geo's and request's. I understand that my bike is cost saver, but the traveling time + working hours is tiring on a daily basis, that's why came up with a plan to buy a car.

Commitment 1 is my responsibility bro, can't help it. Father's income can't support much so as eldest son, no choice.
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i understand about the working hours... im in the same situation as u... office hours but usually go back past midnight... and overnights is very common....being able to go home at 8pm is considered VERY early in my office biggrin.gif but i still ride from shah alam to MV everyday on my kriss... 30 mins ride 1 way @ full throttle. yes it gets very tiring. but in the end, the fact remains that u may be able to afford to buy the car, but with installments, fuel n toll... its seriously gonna make u broke every month...

i used to drive to work daily... til my engine blew. after that, while my car is in the workshop, i started riding.. and the savings are ridiculous! my toll for 1 day pays for my bike fuel for 2 days! and i dont even have to touch my car's fuel money.

my main point here is not about how much ull be able to save every month by riding... but about how much ur cost of living will increase if u drive. n considering the fact that ur gonna drive pretty far everyday... ur fuel cost will most likely be higher than normal. it may be tiring... but in the end...ur going home to rest. so appreciate the rest u get. thats wat ive been doing...hence i dun mind riding.

i understand about commitment 1 as well... im not asking u to drop it...in fact i think u should maintain it. be a good son.

the fact is, u may be able to fulfill all 3 requirements, but ur lifestyle will definitely take a HUGE hit. long distance fuel & toll will definitely make things very tight for u every month.....

i think the best way to find out is for u to calculate how much the monthly installment will be if u buy the SNR3....then put aside that amount.. and then take ur family's wira 1.6 n drive it to work daily for a month. pay for the toll n petrol... mebbe do this for 2 months... and see how much ur lifestyle takes a hit. take note that the SNR3 will prolly consume more fuel than ur dad's wira 1.6.

if cant take the wira, then rent something for the month which will cost about the same as ur installments. n do the same thing... though this method is abit waste of money la...but at least ull find out.

even then, u still need to take into account the servicing.... service at service centre aint cheap.. but u have to do it there for a certain period to maintain ur warranty.


EDIT: if ur truly desperate for a car, then i wouldnt recommend anything higher than a normal Satria Neo.... even that oso prefer u to get 2nd hand so that its cheaper. imho, the best would be Kelisa. comfortable, good fuel consumption even for highways (if driven normally according to speed limit), and installments shouldnt be that much.

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post Oct 6 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 6 2011, 01:10 AM)
Budget not enough, seriously. Let say ur saving is 1000 - 830 = 170? How bout Fuel? Who knows some problem here and there. Every 3 month u need to get fork 200-500 for maintenance and sometimes major service which can shoot up till 700.

Let me remind you, this car is a fuel guzzler, u won't get the same fc as Vios, so be prepared for RM200 - 300 for fuel only per month depend on the usage, and in the long run, u need to change tyres too, which is not cheap for 16", at least RM250 - 400 for 1 pcs. With neo chassis, u definitely need to paired it with a good profile tyre, not some cheap that will make you skid when u r cornering aggressively.

How bout roadtax + insurance next year? I wont be cheap, at least 1600-1800. Who knows with this great car I'm sure u gonna participate at Ulu Yam or Genting Sempah, if u hit one of those divider or something, then be prepared to for like 100 just for a touch up paint, and near 700 for a new bumper. You need at least RM2000 per month saving.
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RM2000 per month saving> Bro, sure or not..my salary is like him..married some more..honestly i think u over budet d la bro..if normal driving ok wat..fc gyzzler?no bro..that's where u wrong..fc is just normal la...u cannot put in the same category as Vios and all.. rclxub.gif ...
spec also diff bro...basically wanna use the car, just dont over spend la every month..if can be prudent, 70k car still ok la..


Added on October 6, 2011, 5:06 pm
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 6 2011, 04:58 PM)
i understand about the working hours... im in the same situation as u... office hours but usually go back past midnight... and overnights is very common....being able to go home at 8pm is considered VERY early in my office biggrin.gif but i still ride from shah alam to MV everyday on my kriss... 30 mins ride 1 way @ full throttle. yes it gets very tiring. but in the end, the fact remains that u may be able to afford to buy the car, but with installments, fuel n toll... its seriously gonna make u broke every month...

i used to drive to work daily... til my engine blew. after that, while my car is in the workshop, i started riding.. and the savings are ridiculous! my toll for 1 day pays for my bike fuel for 2 days! and i dont even have to touch my car's fuel money.

my main point here is not about how much ull be able to save every month by riding... but about how much ur cost of living will increase if u drive. n considering the fact that ur gonna drive pretty far everyday... ur fuel cost will most likely be higher than normal. it may be tiring... but in the end...ur going home to rest. so appreciate the rest u get. thats wat ive been doing...hence i dun mind riding.

i understand about commitment 1 as well... im not asking u to drop it...in fact i think u should maintain it. be a good son.

the fact is, u may be able to fulfill all 3 requirements, but ur lifestyle will definitely take a HUGE hit. long distance fuel & toll will definitely make things very tight for u every month.....

i think the best way to find out is for u to calculate how much the monthly installment will be if u buy the SNR3....then put aside that amount.. and then take ur family's wira 1.6 n drive it to work daily for a month. pay for the toll n petrol... mebbe do this for 2 months... and see how much ur lifestyle takes a hit. take note that the SNR3 will prolly consume more fuel than ur dad's wira 1.6.

if cant take the wira, then rent something for the month which will cost about the same as ur installments. n do the same thing... though this method is abit waste of money la...but at least ull find out.

even then, u still need to take into account the servicing.... service at service centre aint cheap.. but u have to do it there for a certain period to maintain ur warranty.
EDIT: if ur truly desperate for a car, then i wouldnt recommend anything higher than a normal Satria Neo.... even that oso prefer u to get 2nd hand so that its cheaper. imho, the best would be Kelisa. comfortable, good fuel consumption even for highways (if driven normally according to speed limit), and installments shouldnt be that much.
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This one i setuju brp..hmm.. nod.gif

This post has been edited by D_Predator: Oct 6 2011, 05:06 PM
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post Oct 6 2011, 05:08 PM

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so TS...u still wants it?
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post Oct 6 2011, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 6 2011, 04:58 PM)
i understand about the working hours... im in the same situation as u... office hours but usually go back past midnight... and overnights is very common....being able to go home at 8pm is considered VERY early in my office biggrin.gif but i still ride from shah alam to MV everyday on my kriss... 30 mins ride 1 way @ full throttle. yes it gets very tiring. but in the end, the fact remains that u may be able to afford to buy the car, but with installments, fuel n toll... its seriously gonna make u broke every month...

i used to drive to work daily... til my engine blew. after that, while my car is in the workshop, i started riding.. and the savings are ridiculous! my toll for 1 day pays for my bike fuel for 2 days! and i dont even have to touch my car's fuel money.

my main point here is not about how much ull be able to save every month by riding... but about how much ur cost of living will increase if u drive. n considering the fact that ur gonna drive pretty far everyday... ur fuel cost will most likely be higher than normal. it may be tiring... but in the end...ur going home to rest. so appreciate the rest u get. thats wat ive been doing...hence i dun mind riding.

i understand about commitment 1 as well... im not asking u to drop it...in fact i think u should maintain it. be a good son.

the fact is, u may be able to fulfill all 3 requirements, but ur lifestyle will definitely take a HUGE hit. long distance fuel & toll will definitely make things very tight for u every month.....

i think the best way to find out is for u to calculate how much the monthly installment will be if u buy the SNR3....then put aside that amount.. and then take ur family's wira 1.6 n drive it to work daily for a month. pay for the toll n petrol... mebbe do this for 2 months... and see how much ur lifestyle takes a hit. take note that the SNR3 will prolly consume more fuel than ur dad's wira 1.6.

if cant take the wira, then rent something for the month which will cost about the same as ur installments. n do the same thing... though this method is abit waste of money la...but at least ull find out.

even then, u still need to take into account the servicing.... service at service centre aint cheap.. but u have to do it there for a certain period to maintain ur warranty.
EDIT: if ur truly desperate for a car, then i wouldnt recommend anything higher than a normal Satria Neo.... even that oso prefer u to get 2nd hand so that its cheaper. imho, the best would be Kelisa. comfortable, good fuel consumption even for highways (if driven normally according to speed limit), and installments shouldnt be that much.
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I feel you man, you do provide me some good inputs. I have tried my dad's wira before and it was true it sucked my money alot, but the hassle was less or none. In Bike, I travel almost 1 hour to and 1 hour fro daily. It sucks more when all the superbikes run in the third lane and can reach in ten minutes to cyberjaya according to some of my colleagues while I will be still in the middle of nowhere vmad.gif .

But, taking into account of all the comments, I definitely need re-think my decision on the R3, looks like as of now, it must still wait and probably I can't buy it in the future as age catches up and family will say buy a bigger car if you wanna get married. blink.gif
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post Oct 6 2011, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Mochamalaysian @ Oct 6 2011, 05:21 PM)
I feel you man, you do provide me some good inputs. I have tried my dad's wira before and it was true it sucked my money alot, but the hassle was less or none. In Bike, I travel almost 1 hour to and 1 hour fro daily. It sucks more when all the superbikes run in the third lane and can reach in ten minutes to cyberjaya according to some of my colleagues while I will be still in the middle of nowhere  vmad.gif .

But, taking into account of all the comments, I definitely need re-think my decision on the R3, looks like as of now, it must still wait and probably I can't buy it in the future as age catches up and family will say buy a bigger car if you wanna get married.   blink.gif
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It seems to me you need a faster bike, not a car. Go buy Kawasaki 150KRR SE, the fast yet cheap, can hit 190km/h, just like Neo. Not sure the meter is ringan or not.

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a possible option... trade in ur ex5 and buy a bigger bike...not too big.. rm10k or less....mebbe 150cc enough la.. something good and comfortable for highway cruising so u wont be so tired. preferably something that can cruise at 140 or 160 easily.

im thinking of doing the same... some supermoto type bike...but the basket and the back box on my kriss is so useful hahahhahahahaha
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TS, how about second hand Neo CPS?, 2009, should be around 45K+


and TS, remember to buy insurance, saw in your commitment without insurance.

no matter how much you save a month, anything happens, its like a fairy tale already.

seen so many tauke make hundreds of thousands, but never buy insurance, so when they die, the kids dont even have money for college

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 6 2011, 05:27 PM)
It seems to me you need a faster bike, not a car. Go buy Kawasaki 150KRR SE, the fast yet cheap, can hit 190km/h, just like Neo. Not sure the meter is ringan or not.
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 6 2011, 05:27 PM)
a possible option... trade in ur ex5 and buy a bigger bike...not too big.. rm10k or less....mebbe 150cc enough la.. something good and comfortable for highway cruising so u wont be so tired. preferably something that can cruise at 140 or 160 easily.

im thinking of doing the same... some supermoto type bike...but the basket and the back box on my kriss is so useful hahahhahahahaha
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agreed!
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post Oct 6 2011, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 6 2011, 05:27 PM)
It seems to me you need a faster bike, not a car. Go buy Kawasaki 150KRR SE, the fast yet cheap, can hit 190km/h, just like Neo. Not sure the meter is ringan or not.
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Kawasaki 150KRR SE drinks more 2T oil for long distance traveling nevertheless its a good bike. Furthermore, it's still a bike, Hujan tetap tunggu kat R&R...Had discussions for it too but for CBR250 with home, straight away answered NO! hmm.gif
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so now you want a car. but i suggest get a basic neo, after then mod it slowly, if you feel the power is not enough.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Oct 6 2011, 05:29 PM)
TS, how about second hand Neo CPS?, 2009, should be around 45K+
and TS, remember to buy insurance, saw in your commitment without insurance.

no matter how much you save a month, anything happens, its like a fairy tale already.

seen so many tauke make hundreds of thousands, but never buy insurance, so when they die, the kids dont even have money for college
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Yes, I don't have insurance yet. But company's one got la...Will get one soon.
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post Oct 6 2011, 05:42 PM

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u left rm1500 for personal use...

rm800 for the installment
rm300 for petrol
rm400 for makan? minum? tol? anything bad happen? service? roadtax n insurance renewal?

think wisely...
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Serius weh bawak moto best, minyak murah, no need pay tol, hujan use raincoat. Faster at pickup then my neo cps(hahaha!). Cornering lagi thrill lagi syok.

I cant live without my bike, but i can live without my car.
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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Oct 6 2011, 02:10 PM)


eat R3 for breakfast
eat inspira for lunch
eat ahmoi for dinner
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 6 2011, 05:48 PM)
Serius weh bawak moto best, minyak murah, no need pay tol, hujan use raincoat. Faster at pickup then my neo cps(hahaha!). Cornering lagi thrill lagi syok.

I cant live without my bike, but i can live without my car.
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safety has no price.
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QUOTE(Mochamalaysian @ Oct 6 2011, 05:37 PM)
Kawasaki 150KRR SE drinks more 2T oil for long distance traveling nevertheless its a good bike. Furthermore, it's still a bike, Hujan tetap tunggu kat R&R...Had discussions for it too but for CBR250 with home, straight away answered NO!  hmm.gif
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Er raincoat cannot use? Bring extra cloth, no need for pant. Coz sometimes when really heavy rain, ur cloth can get wet abit, but pant nevermind la. 2T oil 1l = 1000km. OK la, summore if u count the toll fees u saved by using bike and use it for 2t oil, brape la sgt. Hell u can even buy the RM40 2t oil for 1l.


Added on October 6, 2011, 5:56 pm
QUOTE(turbocharged @ Oct 6 2011, 05:53 PM)
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Then go buy a tank.

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post Oct 6 2011, 06:05 PM

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buy used honda EG/EK also nice..can get wild..vtec kicked in yo!
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post Oct 6 2011, 06:10 PM

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Yes, nice car. Cheap , save fuel coz ringan. B16A ownz you.

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