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 HONDA CIVIC Club V11, My VTEC goes BWAAAAAHH!!!!

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post Jul 12 2012, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 12 2012, 12:01 AM)
Viewed an EF9 today, are all EF9s equipped with sunroof?
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Sunroof/moonroof option. I don't really like moonroof or sunroof, it's an extra spot for leaks.
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post Jul 12 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 12 2012, 12:44 PM)
interesting...but one thing im not liking is that the radiator fan is blowing hot air right into my filter/filter area...

22" will mean the filter is still in the bay or r u gonna bring it down into the wheel well behind the bumper?

velocity fabrication eh... never heard of them..will check them out. do provide any link if u can.
as mentioned...its an optional item when buying the car new....better check with the owner about documentation...coz if ur installing a sunroof, it might require JPJ approval...i say might bcoz lately there was a letter going around saying no need already...

even though my car has a sunroof, i oso would prefer without... extra spot for leaks... and theyre also heavy.
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Velocity fabrication is quite new (relatively la) they got cnc mill, and they open quite late into the evening. First time I went there to weld my exhaust, and I arrived late, they were the only one open till past 6pm.

Got a lot of custom fabrication parts they make, like lower control arms, but for load bearing components, I don't trust billet stuff that much.

You can ask around sunway, I forgot what road they're on. lol. I drove around and found it still open. laugh.gif

22" still in engine bay. I'm using Accord's OEM pipe at the moment, but going to fab a custom bend one so it looks neater. Daily driver, don't do the AEM long intake style. Sure one of these days kena hydrolock. The AEM intake got optional part called bypass valve to prevent hydrolock. A lot of people don't buy that part, but if kena water puddle, sure fakap one.

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post Jul 12 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 12 2012, 05:15 PM)
dunno la... mebbe just stick to my current hatch... wanna jual oso manyak sayang man...
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Keep the hatch, buy eg/ek 4 doors.
Plonk in B20B stock standard, run single layer gasket for 9.5-10CR. Maintain auto transmission (obvious reasons, daily driver mah). If got extra money, get crome and tune the low end for some serious torque. Sure fun one. of course, kena makan when vtek kicked in yo from other hondas, but that 60 foot launch, you will RULE!

As your parts wear out on the hatchback, buy new and pass the old ones to the EK/EG sedan.

Two cars without all the headache of maintanance. icon_rolleyes.gif

I would have bought a hatch if not for the fact that most eg hatch all fakap already and the price to buy one is $$$$$.

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post Jul 12 2012, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 12 2012, 05:46 PM)
laugh.gif kinda have to sell the hatch to get a 4 door...

plan was to get a cheap ass 4 door and K20 the sucker... but....but... sayang la my hatch..hahhahaha
i wonder what a 4 EG/EK would behave like in track though...
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Kinda fun. the long wheelbase makes the steering turn in a little slow (need to plan early). The rear end stock is stiffer than hatch because it has that bar across where the rear seats mount to. but the mid chassis is flexy. Needs a floor bar. without the floor bar, I can hear my car squeak at the lower end of the b pillars when doing a hard turn. laugh.gif

Thinking of profoam, but I don't think the chassis will last. I just found rust at the wheel well area yesterday. looks like I will have to remove the tar underneath the car and see the extent of the rust. It's a 92 eg, so it is expected.

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post Jul 12 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 12 2012, 11:11 PM)
which u guys prefer?  b18cr, or b20?

since im in sabah, its hard 4 me to get this, huhu
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Civic+M+-15476779.htm
better sell my kelisa to add the cash so can buy ek hatch
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Depends on how you drive. If you drive normally, and occasional vtec, then B20B
If you maintain vtec for long long time, then go for B18C.

It'll last longer for you that way.
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post Jul 12 2012, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 12 2012, 11:35 PM)
how about daily driven, and alittle bit drag race on sunday  brows.gif
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B20B a bit risky for drag racing. Most tend to explode after a while. Exactly how long a while depends on how many times you misshift. whistling.gif

Low risk is B18C. Just up compression a bit, toss some cams in, get some gear ratios and you can put your game on.
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post Jul 12 2012, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 12 2012, 11:40 PM)
also, i found out that there are 2 b18c, type r and gsr, mind info, already google, still no info
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Oh, really new player. That's rare. lol. GSR is P72 head with B18C block, come off the integra GSR.
Type R is the high performance version, PR3 head with B18C block.

Got internals slightly different too, but too long to mention.

BTW, your google-fu needs work.. laugh.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine

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post Jul 12 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 12 2012, 11:52 PM)
haha thanks for the info, help me alot, well im not into vtec back then,
i was into kcar, since my kelisa already have yrv, i no what boost kick feel like, hehe

and i already read that wiki, didnt understand a thing, haha all i no is, VTEC or N/A vtec, hahah
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Heh, slow slow le. VTEC is like having two cams. One for normal driving, one for high revving.
Compared to boosted sub 200hp k kars, lightweight chassis and 180-200whp of hondas is a totally different feel.

No spooling or peaky torque, just pure flat torque if set up right. (except b16a, that one is peaky torque)

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post Jul 13 2012, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 13 2012, 12:01 AM)
i can wait to feel the vtec kick! hope can match those lan c satria gsr tebo in my town! even my kelisa want to cucok bah,
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Heh. GSR turbo if 300m sure makan asap. if 400m and up, depends on what turbo they're using. if they're making 380hp, you'd need at least 250-280hp on honda to match those. If stock GSR? kena makan asap by B16A lol
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post Jul 13 2012, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 13 2012, 12:05 AM)
Heh. GSR turbo if 300m sure makan asap. if 400m and up, depends on what turbo they're using. if they're making 380hp, you'd need at least 250-280hp on honda to match those. If stock GSR? kena makan asap by B16A lol
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Kena cucuk tu dunno lah. I use quiet exhaust also people cucuk want to test power.


Added on July 13, 2012, 12:08 am
QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 13 2012, 12:07 AM)
Hahahaha but he willing to lower down his price to 25k by putting in a standard b16b with b16a cams, standard intake and remove hondata. Others remain.

Any take on this?

What hatch you driving btw? Show some pics smile.gif
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dunno, but for me paying 25K for EF is expensive.. but then again, I'm not an EF fanboy either.

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post Jul 13 2012, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 13 2012, 12:10 AM)
Wow b16a can makan standard gsr? Damn geng right! Haha


Added on July 13, 2012, 12:11 am

25k mahal ah? :/
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Stock GSR turbo is about 160hp on wheels, but their block is cast iron heavy shit.
B16A with IHE mods about 160whp as well, even higher if bump up compression. My old b16A with 11CR kicked quite a few stock GSR's ass back in the day. Final dyno numbers about 180ish @ 9K rpm.

I did lose to a GSR RS though, but that car was like 190whp lol. Friend's car, ajak test after tuning at dyno. (actually me and my friend just advanced the timing from 10deg idle to 14deg idle. Straightaway jumped from 160+whp to 190whp. got slight knocking at low rpms, but none at high rpms, so maintained like that. Still running till now. wiring kena tukar tho. His car got broken in to at puchong, thieves cut wires for some of his meters and boost controller.

1st gear and 2nd, I inched ahead, then he hit max boost and left me 1 car near the 400m mark.

25K expensive, because I'm not EF fanboy. For me, I'd rather do the conversion myself since I like to open up the block and see how is the condition internally. If I were to do it again, I'd skip getting the halfcut and buy mil-spec harness and 'enjin lantai.' Bodykit? who needs bodykits? LULZ.

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post Jul 13 2012, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 13 2012, 01:57 AM)
hehe, ef looks old, but i like crx! hehe

which 1 u prefer bro? eg hatch, eg sedan, or ek sedan?
or just get integra..  brows.gif
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Integra for the looks, but has weight penalty. As heavy as EG sedan.

EG hatch for lightweight and looks.
EG sedan is CHEAP. LOL.

EK.. never liked the big headlamps at the front.

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post Jul 13 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 13 2012, 02:10 AM)
because 1 turbo is enough, hehe, im going NA this time, and i like how bigger cc car cucok smaller cc then tiba2 praaaaaaanggggg smoke that suckerrr, haha,
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Heh, tak aci lah big cc cucuk small cc.


Added on July 13, 2012, 1:04 pm
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 13 2012, 01:02 PM)
i wouldnt say cheap...more like proper market price... there are alot of over priced civics lately....bought it about a year back.

bulls eye...meaning everyone is targetting u la... from protons to contis..other jap cars....even other hondas are targetting u.. hell i even kena cucuk by a stock kancil before doh.gif
same here... but for some reason the 4 door EKs have caught my attention lately.....but its more towards liking the back of the car (that has been converted to the 99spec) rather than the front...

EK hatch... until now i still cannot fully appreciate them....front or back or side or top or bottom.
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Same tastes lah. I'm thinking of swapping to integra 99' chassis one of these days. Just buy the car and swap everything over. Already puas tengok civic front end. heh.


Added on July 13, 2012, 1:07 pm
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 13 2012, 01:58 AM)
if those are ur "target" cars...then why are u buying a car with lower power?

VTECs may be awesome...but theyre not the best engine the world..if B16A... expect to kena tapau by the GSRs
Agree with this, in the old days, B16A tapau GSRs was quite common. Nowdays mostly gone for bigger turbo, so generating at least 200hp or more.

Still, over in the East Malaysia, I'm not sure they are at the level of Peninsular yet. At least, according to my navy friend stationed over there la.


Added on July 13, 2012, 1:51 pmhttp://www.mudah.my/Honda+Integra+DC2+B20B+Type+R+Conversion+-16531766.htm
^^ huhuhuhu


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post Jul 13 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 13 2012, 03:35 PM)
eeerrrrr.......

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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IT's GONE!! lol with that price, I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did. tongue.gif

http://stickydiljoe.com/category/integra/
This is another nice build I'm following the progress of. Like the rollcage and engine layout, hate the custom cockpit.

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post Jul 13 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 13 2012, 04:28 PM)
damn.....u called???
Ad no longer there. It's cheap but I'm still invested in my EG sedan. I'll change if the rust gets unmanageable.

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ive always thought the DC2 would be the perfect replacement for the EG Hatch...
good boot space to carry my baby's stroller and other stuff....decent enough rear leg room for my wife to sit at the back with my baby...
while maintaining a 2 door sporty car which is track-worthy in one of the best handling FF-chassis for track days......
Boot space, yeah.. rear leg room? NO lol, integra 2 door wheelbase is not that long lol, unless you get the four door version. DB8. Better she sit up front with you.

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i actually love the custom panels in rywire's car... very top notch build quality...
Yeah the custom panels are nice, but they are cosmetic, adding so much weight to the rear end of a FF chassis is never a good idea.

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ASC Speedmetal has always made badass stuff... would love to get me hands on one of their 3-point strut bars... sexy shit...


Yep, steel though. tongue.gif. If me, I prefer welded on strut bars, but that would invite problems with JPJ. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jul 13 2012, 05:10 PM)
Here..
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Damn! at least they owned up to it.
I have a friend with an GTR R32, lagi teruk kena at sunway area. Shop area say they will compensate, but took so long, my friend went and repair himself.
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post Jul 14 2012, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jul 13 2012, 05:32 PM)
They are going to visit it the next time going to SC to replace power window. (Why this honda got Proton's infamous problem?)
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new honda made in THAILAND mah... lolz.
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post Jul 14 2012, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 13 2012, 11:28 PM)
huhu, my frren dolphin already change to diss

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so nice.. my dolphin no VTEC one.




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post Jul 14 2012, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 14 2012, 08:21 PM)
btw bro....do u happen to have a dyno chart...u could cover up the numbers if ud like... i just wanna see the lines...

and since our setup almost similar engine wise (i.e. high comp with stock cams)... im wondering would u be confident enough to bring ur car into SIC for a good 2-3 hour open track day?

oh...n did u re-sleeve ur b20 block?
damn...i was at my mechanic's workshop today....totally forgot to ask... he recently just completed a K20 swap into an ES this past week....
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No recent dyno charts lo, the last time I dyno my car was 4-5 years ago. paper dunno where already.

Setup also a bit changed since first swap, 2.7" (japanese strange sizing) kakimoto exhaust, and the recent addition of performer x. Haven't gotten around to tuning it yet though. Currently saving up for some cams.

And my compression and stroker is lower than yours. It's a B20B block with B18C internals.

As for track, I always want to go Sepang, but their open track days always on my working day. Working at east coast sucks.

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post Jul 15 2012, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 14 2012, 09:59 PM)
oh yeah...forgot about the B18c-R internals... so u get to rev higher for safer.

but even then...with the current setup... r u confident to bring it into sepang?
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Nope. I think if I rev high all the time at track, I think I'll break something lol. But my friend also say I worry too much. laugh.gif

If I go also, I won't push 100%
If my old b16A, I lanyak until puas puas. lol.
B18C mamposed (due to accident) before I even managed to have fun with it, hence why I now end up with B18C stroker in a B20B block.

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