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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2011, Chelsea 1- 2 Liverpool - Maxi+Johnson!

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post Oct 17 2011, 11:51 AM

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We have not been title contenders for a long long time. This season is no different... We are no where near the likes of the top 3, maybe even slightly weaker than Spurs.

Europe (or top 4 finish) is a real target and our main priority. we still need to work out our strike force. Suarez cant play alone. Carroll needs to realize his potential. Bellamy needs to readapt.
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post Oct 17 2011, 12:02 PM

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I think Bellamy should be given a chance to play alongside Suarez, this two loves to link up plays. Plus, Bellamy is fast and he is what we need, a clinical finisher.
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With the big match has ended over the weekend, lets look forward for another performing match against the newcomers , Norwich City on Sunday morning (Saturday 17:30 GMT).

Need to improve? We need a lethargic start, sloppy passes has to be improved into accurate passes. Although we played confident game over the weekend, we need more energetic start. I understand the international games has caused the problem, but it should not be an excuses all the time.

Where's the free-flow-move passing gone?, we need to improve on the free-flow-pass-and-move back into the game. The lack of incisive movement played an equally important role in the lack of forward passes, there were no barnstorming runs from the center of the park, and no razor-sharp vision to find the diagonal balls to the wings. The key for Kenny Dalglish and his coaching team now is to help our side unlock a stifling midfield.

Defensive Errors? Yes, it was an overall solid defensive performance. Yes, our defenders and midfielders restricted United to just two shots on target all afternoon. Skrtel has failed to mark his man towards the run to the equalizer. We've only kept 2 clean sheet thus far, this needs addressing.

Chances created & converted? Game after game, the frustration isn't as much about the chances we create, but the lack of finishing ability to convert them. KD should have opted to bring in Bellamy as he has the finishing ability which would be able to kill off the United game. Unfortunately, we couldn't see the reason why KD has not brought him in even for 5 mins.

Reliance on Suarez is a biggest mistake, as we need to improve as a team play rather than a one-man-show. The frustration of unable to convert chances into goal could bring him lot more pressure and to raise his tempers , as we know how good he is at it. The positive thing here is , the Captain is back with a bang. That was a top notch free kick. His typical way of scoring freekick , where we could have seen all the thunder bolt shots in his young days, this is top CLASS ! and he is capable of scoring important goals.

Full backs performance was top notch on Saturday and we defended well for the entire game, until the 80th min. Kelly , Carra, Enrique in particular played their part. Well done!. Skrtel, you need more lesson from Carra / Kelly / Enrique. I hope Coates gets his games soon. Resurgence as a team was on the card, we have shown that we can beat anyone if we all the above improved.

Well done ! Looking forward for Norwich City's visit this weekend.

YNWA !


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post Oct 17 2011, 01:23 PM

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On a lighter note, WILL has finally opened! Time to relive Istanbul again.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverp...00252-29606197/?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 17 2011, 01:23 PM)
On a lighter note, WILL has finally opened! Time to relive Istanbul again.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverp...00252-29606197/?
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I've searched local cinema listing, it has not been listed? Or its just me?
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Oct 17 2011, 01:29 PM)
I've searched local cinema listing, it has not been listed? Or its just me?
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Not sure if any distributor picked it up. Torrents la.
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Gonna catch Will if it shows. Would be great to see the aspiration of a kid living and seeing Istanbul for his father's last dream.

And I've also been following the Suarez - Evra ordeal.

So far according to the main medias like Skysport and the rest, there has been no conclusive or factual evidence of the racial slur/abuse from Suarez. Considering the serial-racist remark victim has accused Suarez of using the "N" word for around 10 times, it's hard to believe no camera caught it especially when most cameras are trained towards Suarez almost at every turn. So in short, it's either a Jim Carrey's Liar Liar or George Lucas's Revenge of the Phantom Menace at play here. LOL biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Oct 17 2011, 12:12 PM)
Chances created & converted? Game after game, the frustration isn't as much about the chances we create, but the lack of finishing ability to convert them. KD should have opted to bring in Bellamy as he has the finishing ability which would be able to kill off the United game. Unfortunately, we couldn't see the reason why KD has not brought him in even for 5 mins.


I too would have liked to seen Bellamy come on but we had to be careful not to throw caution to the wind given that Fergie had brought on Rooney and Lil Pea, although the former was almost a defensive midfielder. The question would have been who to take off? Downing, Kuyt and Suarez were playing well and Kuyt almost scored from a pinpoint cross courtesy of Downing. Bellamy isn't as defensively sound as Kuyt which makes Suarez the obvious choice to be replaced but I think everyone would agree he had to stay on.

Thing is I feel we still had to give them mancs some respect knowing very well that they are more than capable of scoring late goals, hence the apprehension to bring on anymore attacking minded players.

QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Oct 17 2011, 12:12 PM)
Reliance on Suarez is a biggest mistake, as we need to improve as a team play rather than a one-man-show. The frustration of unable to convert chances into goal could bring him lot more pressure and to raise his tempers , as we know how good he is at it. The positive thing here is , the Captain is back with a bang. That was a top notch free kick. His typical way of scoring freekick , where we could have seen all the thunder bolt shots in his young days, this is top CLASS ! and he is capable of scoring important goals.


It's a conundrum really. Prior to Suarez, we relied heavily on Stevie and Torres but it almost can't be helped. If you have your best players on the pitch, why wouldn't you give them the ball as often as possible? Stevie in particular almost demands for the ball each time he's free. I agree however that it's a matter of concern we look so different without Suarez on the pitch.


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post Oct 17 2011, 02:16 PM

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we won it FIVE times! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Oct 17 2011, 02:16 PM)
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we won it FIVE times! biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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but i want 19th more sad.gif
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Let's look beyond our next game for awhile. In fact let's look to our last 10 games of the season. With the exception of Chelsea and possibly Villa, we are up against mid to lower table sides. One can argue that relegation battlers in particular will be playing harder to stay in the Premiership but one could also argue that we'll be potentially fighting for a top four finish. If we can keep pace until March/April, we stand a decent chance. If we do get far in the FA Cup, it means we won't necessarily have to rest players with supposed, 'easier' games during the tail end of the season.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 17 2011, 01:58 PM)
I too would have liked to seen Bellamy come on but we had to be careful not to throw caution to the wind given that Fergie had brought on Rooney and Lil Pea, although the former was almost a defensive midfielder. The question would have been who to take off? Downing, Kuyt and Suarez were playing well and Kuyt almost scored from a pinpoint cross courtesy of Downing. Bellamy isn't as defensively sound as Kuyt which makes Suarez the obvious choice to be replaced but I think everyone would agree he had to stay on.

Thing is I feel we still had to give them mancs some respect knowing very well that they are more than capable of scoring late goals, hence the apprehension to bring on anymore attacking minded players.
It's a conundrum really. Prior to Suarez, we relied heavily on Stevie and Torres but it almost can't be helped. If you have your best players on the pitch, why wouldn't you give them the ball as often as possible? Stevie in particular almost demands for the ball each time he's free. I agree however that it's a matter of concern we look so different without Suarez on the pitch.
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Downing in particular had good game. If 3 points was the ultimate target, instead of Hendo, KD could have replaced Lucas with Bellamy, adding quicker movement from Suarez and Bellamy. Anyway, we don't know what KD had in mind but he got it right to play the right players at their own territorial position

Looking forward for "Will" and Norwich this weekend.
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Oct 17 2011, 03:07 PM)
Downing in particular had good game. If 3 points was the ultimate target, instead of Hendo, KD could have replaced Lucas with Bellamy, adding quicker movement from Suarez and Bellamy. Anyway, we don't know what KD had in mind but he got it right to play the right players at their own territorial position

Looking forward for "Will" and Norwich this weekend.
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Downing has looked like a decent buy so far. I mean he's hit the post, he's put some crosses in and he's gone off on penetrating runs. The stats however, tell a different story. I read somewhere (can't remember the source at the moment) that he has zero assists thus far.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 17 2011, 03:16 PM)
Downing has looked like a decent buy so far. I mean he's hit the post, he's put some crosses in and he's gone off on penetrating runs. The stats however, tell a different story. I read somewhere (can't remember the source at the moment) that he has zero assists thus far.
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He will get into the stats sooner. Not far away from getting his assists and goals. He was almost, against Bolton. He ballooned a shot against United, that sums up that he's not far away from registering his goals in BPL. I could still see neighbors still moaning on Suarez & Evra's row.
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Oct 17 2011, 03:39 PM)
He will get into the stats sooner. Not far away from getting his assists and goals. He was almost, against Bolton. He ballooned a shot against United, that sums up that he's not far away from registering his goals in BPL. I could still see neighbors still moaning on Suarez & Evra's row.
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It's probably because they've decided that Suarez is guilty.Don't know, don't visit anymore. It'll end if it's found he isn't. I think we should discuss every aspect of the club, negative and positive.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 17 2011, 03:48 PM)
It's probably because they've decided that Suarez is guilty.Don't know, don't visit anymore. It'll end if it's found he isn't. I think we should discuss every aspect of the club, negative and positive.
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Just had a glance, not bothered to read ill-timed-retards comments. Immature to be honest. That's aside.
Agree, we should only speak about what's our progress
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post Oct 17 2011, 05:33 PM

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here's something from Liverpool Daily:

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JOHN HENRY admits he was won round by Kenny Dalglish after initially wanting to appoint a younger manager in the Liverpool FC hotseat.

Tomorrow will mark the anniversary of Fenway Sports Group’s protracted £300million LFC takeover that banished Tom Hicks and George Gillett from the club.



One of Henry’s first decisions as principal owner was to install Dalglish in place of deposed manager Roy Hodgson on a temporary basis in January until the end of last season.

Liverpool subsequently tracked a clutch of up-and-coming names in their search for a permanent successor, a shortlist which included current Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas.

But while having harboured reservations employing someone who hadn’t been in the hotseat for more than a decade, Henry admits Dalglish soon provided a compelling case for his appointment.


Asked if the blueprint was to install a younger manager, Henry said: “Initially it was. You want to have long-term stability in as much as the staff as possible.

“I had been talking with Kenny about philosophy and initially he was brought aboard just for the remainder of last season. But it became obvious that he was the right man to lead the club.

“Kenny is certainly charismatic and beloved by the fans. I wasn’t convinced when we arrived that Kenny should be back managing and I wanted things to work with the manager we inherited.

“But the fans knew much more than I did. It took me a while to get up to speed.”

Henry added: “Damien (Comolli) was a gamble. Kenny was a gamble. But they were both calculated gambles.

“We didn’t feel we had a lot of time to wait, and we hope things turned around.”


Having been handed more than £100m to spend on new players, Dalglish has helped transform Liverpool from relegation strugglers last October to launching a realistic challenge for Champions League qualification this season.

And asked if he was happy with the progress of the club during the past 12 months, Henry said: “Yes, overall. But there is still a lot of work to be done.

“By the time we made the purchase we were aware of a lot of bad contracts and the fact that it could take years to get the club back where it needed to be.”

While the recovery has been impressively swift, Henry accepts it will take time to overhaul bitter North West rivals Manchester United, who visit Anfield tomorrow.

“We are still a long way behind them,” he said. “They were well set-up going into this year and then were able to insert great, young players. Mr Ferguson is a genius.”


Central to closing the gap, at least financially, on the Old Trafford outfit is a new stadium.

But Henry, who insists there has not been a moment when FSG have regretted their decision to buy the club, believes that alone would not be enough.

“It is not the full solution,” he said. “Barcelona and Real Madrid are dominant clubs because they are able to maximise all aspects of the revenue generation.

“We have to try to do that as well. It’s certainly an important component.”

One of those avenues could be individual overseas television rights, a move Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre controversially suggested earlier this week.

Ayre also hinted there remained a possibility of refurbishing their current Anfield home by increasing capacity to up to 65,000.

However, Henry said: “More and more it appears that expanding Anfield is problematical.

“New stadiums are very expensive – particularly one large enough to cause you to tear down a 45,000 stadium. Our hope was to refurbish and expand Anfield. But that may not be possible.”

And Henry, who also confirmed the club’s debt has not grown as a result of Liverpool’s heavy transfer spending, was succinct when asked if he was concerned about the £1bn damages claim Hicks and Gillett continue to pursue.

“No,” said Liverpool’s principal owner.
If you ask me be daring, I'll dare say below "You'll Never Walk Alone" we ought to have the words "Keep the Faith" below the crest.


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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Oct 17 2011, 10:16 AM)
We played well but I don't see any firepower from the team other than the likes of Suarez and Gerrard. Henderson was a real attacking threat in the closing minutes. Really hoping Henderson would be the next Gerrard, I see potential in him.
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Indeed. IMO, we need more creative midfield-ers at the moment. Saw Benayoun played for Arsenal yesterday and I began to wonder why Liverpool let him go. A shame, really. Same with Aqualani. Please KD, take Aqualani back from Milan!

As for the rest of the squad, we really need Agger and Coates to be fit and ready to play before the January transfer starts. Skrtel can defend but he is most of the times, vulnerable.

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Jones said Adam dive, Evra accused Suarez being racist...Ferguson said Suarez dive all over the place... now, excuse after excuse...
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 17 2011, 06:42 PM)
Sigh... lets kick racism out of football... mad.gif

Justice for Evra, Suarez should be handed 3 matches ban or so... mad.gif
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yea , and I can make a police report and say you rape someone daugther...police come and put you in jail for 30 years based on my report. Wait for the investigation and let the judge to decide , not us supporter .If suarez if proven guilty , I dont think anyone here will back him up , personally I think Fa and the club should fine and ban him for few matches. Till proven is guilty , Suarez has the fan backing and support him.

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