Hers my take on cheating. These days players are motivated to do whatever they can to win. Clubs offer bonuses for winning, scoring goals, appearances and so on. I also agree that you can't call Suarez a cheat for stopping the ball on the line if you applaud Solksjaer for what he did and I'm sure some of you do for some bizzare reason. Please don't be hypocritical here. I'm sure many of our rivals would love to call Suarez a cheat for he does go down easy but ask yourself this, is it not the same with your players? Stop focusing on instances where your players are on the attack. Have you not seen your defenders go down after being brushed from behind by a player applying pressure on him? How's this not the same?

So now, does going down under a little contact constitute cheating or does going down under no contact warrant that label? They can't both be the same.

For the record, I miss the days when players would do all they can to stay on their feet. Football was a little more honest back then. One thing I admired about Gary Lineker was his reluctance to go down. He'd do all he could to stay on his feet but footballers these days don't. If you want to call someone like Suarez a cheat so be it but don't ignore the times your players go down easily. Defenders do it all the time when pressured from behind in their own box. They go down and immediately clutch the ball coercing the ref to award a foul. Is this not true?

Hers my take on cheating. These days players are motivated to do whatever they can to win. Clubs offer bonuses for winning, scoring goals, appearances and so on. I also agree that you can't call Suarez a cheat for stopping the ball on the line if you applaud Solksjaer for what he did and I'm sure some of you do for some bizzare reason. Please don't be hypocritical here. I'm sure many of our rivals would love to call Suarez a cheat for he does go down easy but ask yourself this, is it not the same with your players? Stop focusing on instances where your players are on the attack. Have you not seen your defenders go down after being brushed from behind by a player applying pressure on him? How's this not the same?

So now, does going down under a little contact constitute cheating or does going down under no contact warrant that label? They can't both be the same.

For the record, I miss the days when players would do all they can to stay on their feet. Football was a little more honest back then. One thing I admired about Gary Lineker was his reluctance to go down. He'd do all he could to stay on his feet but footballers these days don't. If you want to call someone like Suarez a cheat so be it but don't ignore the times your players go down easily. Defenders do it all the time when pressured from behind in their own box. They go down and immediately clutch the ball coercing the ref to award a foul. Is this not true?

good post and happy birthday duke         

happy birthday duke.

Your Faith is the exemplary to all reds

torres when he joined us from la liga, had the similiar tendency to go down even when he is not touched. but he improved the next season, and see how effective he was.

as for a random poster earlier, its not a shameful thing to expect your players to be honest despite everyone else is cheating their ass off . if u think this is wrong/stupid/immature/etc , i guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions....

torres when he joined us from la liga, had the similiar tendency to go down even when he is not touched. but he improved the next season, and see how effective he was.

as for a random poster earlier, its not a shameful thing to expect your players to be honest despite everyone else is cheating their ass off . if u think this is wrong/stupid/immature/etc , i guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions....

If i do recall correctly, first game against Chelsea, JT tried to do his "Welcome to the EPL!" push/trip/grab thinggy on Torres... and Torres returned the favour moments later by backing into and stomping on Terry's feet

Duke, happy birthday..from bottom of my RED heart, wishing you all the best. A true Kop fan you are and so do rest of us who admire your contribution to the community and the club..

YNWA!

In a subsequent game against Chelsea, JT tried intimidating Torres again but the Spanisrd stood his ground, not backing up an inch. Instead he looked right back at Terry. Wonder if they're best buds now.

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Added on November 14, 2011, 9:49 am

Thanks but I think you're giving me too much credit here. All I want is to emulate those at the Kop week in, week out.

In a subsequent game against Chelsea, JT tried intimidating Torres again but the Spanisrd stood his ground, not backing up an inch. Instead he looked right back at Terry. Wonder if they're best buds now.

the drog should be the best example of physical strength