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 Silver as investment V2, Don't cry, buy now.

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property101
post Nov 13 2011, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(basSist @ Nov 12 2011, 10:37 AM)
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hi brother, help me to add and update the following list into your sell list. Thank you!

[WTS] Perth Mint 1oz Coloured Proof Dragon Silver Coin 2012 [#7454] - RM6xx
[WTS] Perth Mint 1/2oz Coloured Proof Dragon Silver Coin 2012 [#6469] - RM3xx
[WTS] Perth Mint 1oz Glided Edition Dragon Silver Coin 2012 [#21577] [#21578] - RM4xx
[WTS] Perth Mint 9x1oz Coloured Dragon Silver Coin Set 2012 [#0470] - RM5xxx

Contact method: PM/email - fullsoon@gmail.com
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no problem bro, have added for you, please check out at:
Sell List - Silver in Malaysia

i have removed those outdated listings. at any point of time, the list will only contains 30 listing. if there is a new listing comes in, the oldest listing would be taken out, fair right? tongue.gif

Check out the website:
Silver In Malaysia
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btw, i'm trying to learn something about Dirham. is there anyone one here invest in Dirham? what is the main reason people would like to invest in Dirham? what could be the advantages and disadvantages investing in Dirham? Please enlighten me
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This post has been edited by property101: Nov 13 2011, 09:26 AM
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post Nov 13 2011, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Nov 13 2011, 09:12 AM)
no problem bro, have added for you, please check out at:
Sell List - Silver in Malaysia

i have removed those outdated listings. at any point of time, the list will only contains 30 listing. if there is a new listing comes in, the oldest listing would be taken out, fair right? tongue.gif

Check out the website:
Silver In Malaysia
icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

btw, i'm trying to learn something about Dirham. is there anyone one here invest in Dirham? what is the main reason people would like to invest in Dirham? what could be the advantages and disadvantages investing in Dirham? Please enlighten me
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Hi property,

I think you have to refine the website, Let's say if someone put in a sell list or wish list of 10 immediately, that would push out some of the oldest new listing? or example in one day, there are 30 new listing being updated to your site, wouldn't yesterday's listing be pushed out? Maybe like someone suggested, time based listing is best. but set a limit on the number as well. I'm not sure how, but just some feedback.

chef
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post Nov 13 2011, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Nov 13 2011, 09:12 AM)
no problem bro, have added for you, please check out at:
Sell List - Silver in Malaysia

i have removed those outdated listings. at any point of time, the list will only contains 30 listing. if there is a new listing comes in, the oldest listing would be taken out, fair right? tongue.gif

Check out the website:
Silver In Malaysia
icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

btw, i'm trying to learn something about Dirham. is there anyone one here invest in Dirham? what is the main reason people would like to invest in Dirham? what could be the advantages and disadvantages investing in Dirham? Please enlighten me
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Property,
I suggest you Google "Dirham" for information. As for local opinion, you ask the Dirham question in SLS, as there are more Muslim investors and Dirham traders there. As for the silver content on Dirham, please refer to the conversion to troy ounce price table I provided earlier.


Added on November 13, 2011, 6:00 pmHappy Reading: old story rewritten with more clarity.

SILVER: THE PEOPLE'S MONEY
By: Jeff Nielsen, November.07. 2011


In my writing a couple of themes occur with regularity: how “fractional-reserve banking” (with purely fiat currencies) is nothing less than serial stealing from the general population; and how gold and silver can protect people from this cycle of theft.

With respect to fractional-reserve banking, the theft is obvious. The bankers print up vast quantities of their paper currencies ‘out of thin air’, at no cost to themselves – but with the full benefit of that money. Thus their own “wealth” increases exponentially, and without the bankers earning a single penny of it. However, by diluting our currencies in this reckless manner they drive down the value of our money – reflected in higher prices (i.e. reduced purchasing power). We get poorer and poorer; they get richer and richer.

Given that we have a corporate propaganda machine which has spent more than forty years trying to disguise this serial stealing, it is no surprise that it often takes a long time for this reality to sink into peoples’ minds. Sadly, even once people understand the stealing which is taking place, they often aren’t able to piece together how precious metals are the “cure” for this chronic condition.

When I speak of precious metals being our salvation from the bankers’ world of debauched paper, for the average person what I mean specifically is that silver is their primary protection from the banksters’ stealing-via-dilution. In referring to silver as “the people’s money” I am not saying anything new here. Rather I am simply reiterating one of the oldest economic truths of our species.

To understand this first requires understanding two more of the most ancient concepts of humanity. To begin with, people must know the answer to the question “what is money?”. Once they have a clear understanding there, it becomes crystal-clear why gold and silver are the best “money” our species has ever known – and the only “good money” in existence today.

Next readers need to understand the historic price ratio between gold and silver, or in other words they need to understand the 5,000 year old price relationship between the Metal of the Sun (gold) and the Metal of the Moon (silver). This historic 15:1 ratio is absolutely reinforced by the fact that this is also the approximate relative proportions of gold and silver in the Earth’s crust. Thus 15:1 is the “natural” price ratio between gold and silver, and over the long term gold and silver prices must revert to that ratio.

Given that 15:1 ratio (and the much greater, current ratio today), this leads to an obvious inference. Gold, by virtue of being less common and thus more valuable is the “money” of the wealthy and governments. Conversely, by virtue of being more plentiful (but still “precious”) silver has always been the Money of the People.

Once these preliminary concepts are understood, readers should be ready to absorb how and why silver can protect the ordinary person from the serial stealing of the bankers. Remembering how the bankers “steal” by diluting the paper (i.e. fiat currencies) we are holding, the obvious solution to that problem is to avoid holding the bankers’ paper.

If we take the fruits of our labours and convert it into silver as quickly as possible, then suddenly the bankers must do most of their stealing from the other paper-holders – not us. And if every ordinary person converted their wealth to silver as quickly as possible, soon the bankers (and the ultra-wealthy for whom the bankers “front”) would have no one to steal from but each other.

People need to divorce their minds from the notion of “buying silver”, and rather simply think of themselves as doing their “saving” with silver rather than with the banksters’ ever more diluted paper. Indeed, the worst thing we can possibly do with our wealth is to deposit it in a bank – since that simply allows the banksters to ratchet-up their “leverage” even further (i.e. steal from us even faster).

Put another way, every dollar which ordinary people convert to silver (or gold) weakens the intensity/effects of this stealing-via-dilution. This also explains the extreme aversion which the bankers have to a “gold standard”, and why they have disseminated millions of pieces of propaganda over recent decades attempting to portray a gold standard as either being archaic or simply “impractical”.

A gold standard is “impractical” indeed if one is a banker because when it comes to the banksters’ efforts to steal-via-dilution, a gold standard functions like an “economic straitjacket”, preventing the banksters from conjuring any “money” out of thin air. With the absolute refusal of our corrupt and servile politicians to “regulate” these financial crime syndicates, a gold standard would impose fiscal/monetary discipline (and sanity) on both bankster and politician alike.

Lacking a gold standard and lacking any financial regulation of these multinational banks, as individuals we have been left with absolutely no recourse but to “insure” our wealth by converting it to silver. Holding silver will not/cannot “fix” our economies by itself. However, with the self-destructive greed of the banksters and the shameless corruption of our political leaders, the destruction of our economies is now inevitable – and we must protect ourselves individually, since we have been abandoned by our own governments.

As it has done for nearly a hundred years, the corporate media defines such behavior as “hoarding”. Strangely, when we (collectively) hold several billion dollars of silver the propaganda machine calls this “hoarding”, yet these same media talking-heads never mention the word “hoarding” when it comes to the $10’s of trillions in paper wealth being hoarded by these ultra-wealthy (ultra-greedy) misers.

As I have demonstrated in numerous previous commentaries, it is the “hollowing out” of our economies through the hoarding of all these $trillions which is one of the primary causes of our imminent economic collapse. In other words, it was bad enough to have the ultra-wealthy steal $trillions of our wealth, but they have compounded that economic harm by refusing to spend their ill-gotten hoards. If the “other 99%” greatly increase their “saving with silver” (or gold), this will also serve to slow down this hollowing-out process, and will at least help to delay our complete economic collapse.

Our economies remain in desperate need of a total overhaul of our entire monetary system, our tax systems, and our labour markets. Given the saturation level of corruption in our governments, it seems likely that most Western nations must also have radical reforms in their political systems as well.

Holding silver solves none of those other problems. At best, it will “buy us the time” to actually fix our broken economies (and broken political systems). At worst, it will make it a little easier to rebuild our societies from the economic “rubble” left behind by the banksters and their political servants.



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post Nov 14 2011, 03:30 PM

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bump! wah, 1st time have to look for this thread!
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post Nov 14 2011, 03:53 PM

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Everyone ran out of bullet.. Nothing to do but to wait..
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QUOTE(chunyen2020 @ Nov 14 2011, 03:53 PM)
Everyone ran out of bullet.. Nothing to do but to wait..
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What do you mean?
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post Nov 14 2011, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Jutawan @ Nov 14 2011, 05:54 PM)
What do you mean?
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Many people joined the group purchase and use up the capital (to buy silver). Need to wait for next month salary to buy more.
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post Nov 14 2011, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Nov 14 2011, 08:35 PM)
Many people joined the group purchase and use up the capital (to buy silver). Need to wait for next month salary to buy more.
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group purchase from where?
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Hey, so what is the group purchase this time round? I really think I should join the FB group, but I never got around to get my FB up... too much work and travel.. but will get round to it next 2 weeks.

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post Nov 14 2011, 10:44 PM

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well last month is Sunshine silver bars, around 450oz. this month (last weekend) is around 300 scottsdale/silvertowne.

next month..well i will ask d supplier for quotation and all..hopefully can go for coins. again. bulk purchase only offer to lowyat.net member in fb group wink.gif
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QUOTE(chef @ Nov 14 2011, 09:54 PM)
Hey, so what is the group purchase this time round? I really think I should join the FB group, but I never got around to get my FB up... too much work and travel.. but will get round to it next 2 weeks.

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haven decide on the group purchase yet ...juz did that 1 week ago... will see how it goes next month..... smile.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 10:56 PM

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looking forward coin bulk tongue.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 11:29 PM

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have to open back la my fb account like this..aisehhhh
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post Nov 14 2011, 11:34 PM

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looking forward coin bulk tongue.gif
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what coins, dragons? me thinks they've overloaded the market oledi laugh.gif

Too bad dun have this for bulk buying, otherwise sure super hit for the chinese laugh.gif

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post Nov 15 2011, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 14 2011, 11:34 PM)
what coins, dragons? me thinks they've overloaded the market oledi laugh.gif

Too bad dun have this for bulk buying, otherwise sure super hit for the chinese  laugh.gif

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too bad that "pat gua" is so small and not much details in there. even if they have a 1kg coin also cant see much in the "pat gua". the details are not very comprehensive
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QUOTE(property101 @ Nov 15 2011, 12:51 AM)
too bad that "pat gua" is so small and not much details in there. even if they have a 1kg coin also cant see much in the "pat gua". the details are not very comprehensive
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not much details? check this out bro:

http://straightsilver.com/store/index.php?...uct_detail&p=13

the details are so good i can see the individual teeth & curls in the fu-dog, n the "pat gua" are really raised thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 14 2011, 11:34 PM)
what coins, dragons? me thinks they've overloaded the market oledi laugh.gif

Too bad dun have this for bulk buying, otherwise sure super hit for the chinese  laugh.gif

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Koala 2012 and Kooks 2012 I guess.
This Feng Shui Fu Dog last time my friend offer me for RM180. o.O
Should have taken it. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chunyen2020 @ Nov 15 2011, 01:09 AM)
Koala 2012 and Kooks 2012 I guess.
This Feng Shui Fu Dog last time my friend offer me for RM180. o.O
Should have taken it.  tongue.gif
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damn, rm180 bloody cheap ler drool.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 15 2011, 01:23 AM)
damn, rm180 bloody cheap ler  drool.gif
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That was few months ago price. @@
Around May, should have taken it. Haha... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chunyen2020 @ Nov 15 2011, 01:52 AM)
That was few months ago price. @@
Around May, should have taken it. Haha... tongue.gif
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i just got another round few days ago for rm190 + rm10 postage. depends on where u look for them ooo. soon i'll have 2 doggies to guard the house, just like those ancient imperial emperors laugh.gif

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